Does the Trumpanzee Species want Greenland Made into America?

Donald Trump has formally renewed his push on Greenland by appointing Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry as a US special envoy for the island, explicitly tying the role to his long?stated ambition that the US should “take over” or acquire Greenland.?

What Trump has done

1. Trump announced on Sunday that Jeff Landry will serve as the United States special envoy to Greenland, describing the island as essential to US national security and Arctic strategy.?
2. In his statement, Trump said Landry “understands how essential Greenland is to our National Security” and will work to advance US interests, language that echoes his earlier claims that the US “needs” Greenland and should bring it under US jurisdiction.?

Why this matters

1. Trump has repeatedly argued since his first term that Greenland, a self?governing territory within the Kingdom of Denmark, should become part of the US because of its mineral resources and its strategic location for missile warning and Arctic operations.?
2. The new envoy role signals that the White House is again elevating Greenland on the US foreign?policy agenda, after earlier visits by Vice President JD Vance and other senior officials framed the island as central to US defense and energy policy.?

Reaction from Denmark and Greenland

1. Denmark’s foreign minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen said Copenhagen would summon the US ambassador, calling himself “deeply angered” and insisting that all states, including the US, must respect Denmark’s territorial integrity.?
2. Leaders in both Denmark and Greenland have reiterated that Greenland is not for sale and that its future status is for Greenlanders themselves to decide, amid local polling that shows strong opposition to becoming part of the US.?

Since the announcement, Jeff Landry has publicly embraced the role and clearly aligned himself with Trump’s stated goal of making Greenland part of the United States.?

Public statements

1. In a post on X responding directly to Trump, Landry wrote: “It’s an honor to serve you in this volunteer position to make Greenland a part of the U.S.,” explicitly endorsing the idea of bringing the island under US control.?
2. Landry has also stressed that the envoy position is voluntary and “in no way affects my position as Governor of Louisiana,” signalling that he intends to keep serving as governor while holding the Greenland role.?

How his comments are being received

1. Danish Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen has cited Landry’s wording as “totally unacceptable,” arguing that such statements undermine Denmark’s sovereignty over Greenland.?
2. The controversy has added to alarm in both Denmark and Greenland, where leaders reiterate that Greenland’s status is for Greenlanders to decide and that the island is not “for sale” or subject to unilateral US decisions.?

Denmark’s ‘sovereignty over Greenland’ that sounds very much.like a Colonial mentality. In the 21st Century what the blue blazes is Greenland doing occupying a land an Ocean away,

Ah yes that old colonial mentality of its "that Greenland’s status is for Greenlanders to decide"...wait what?

The factis that Greenland had a history going back more than a 1000 years when occupied by Vikngs from Denmak and Norwar. The problem is that Grenland only has a total population of less than 60 000. psople, For jistorics reasons the Island beme part of the Kingdom of Denmark, which mean in fact that the fishin g and minreal development of G reenland is controlled by the EU operatin g from Brussells.

A s a result of EU restrictions on mining and fishing the Islands economic development is jeopardized and employment opportunities extrenmely limited, There is no tertiary institutions in G renland and the chiuldren goes to European Universitie and never return to Grenland after attaining their degrees.

Th e problem is in general there are no way of improving the lvin g cnditions at present, The island has strategic value and the USA hd an army base in Grenland for decades - but the base was closed down by the Autopen.

On the who;e the country is backward with about 70% of the population living in pverty depending on subsustnce g rants, On its own Grenland is not a sustainable terroitory conmtrolled by Government in Copenhagen based onm EY regulations. Denmark has no means to defend Greenland in the case of an attack by for instance China,

What is best for the people of Grenland from a strategic point of view would be to become part of the USA - without becoming a stste in itelf, The fact is that it would enhance medical, education and living standard of the people.

So what would be best for the people of G renland is not an issue dealt with in the emdia - the situation is just a media propaganda campaigb with no real solution that woud benefot the Greenlanders themselves,

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Would be nice if Trump decided to annex the Western Cape. :-)

Why does America own Alaska or Hawaii?

Greenland is its own country, with a history of being part of Denmark.

They will eventually have their 100% independence. They are happy with the status quo for now. This was decided democratically by voting.

They do not want to become MAGA Shit

95% of Greenlanders say they would not want to be part of the piece of shit America.

They would prefer to remain part of Greeland.

Greenland's minimum wage is $15 dollars- but the minimum wage in America is $7 dollars.

America is a great place for Billionaires, but the rest of society is increasingly marginalised.

The American Dream and Democracy now belong to the Oligarchs in America.

Piece of Shit America has been protecting your freedom for more than a century...have a little gratitude.

America must take its army and get out of Europe. We have never been at a significant war within Europe since World War 2, and the very first war America stabbed us in the back. So, how exactly has America been protecting us? Having America based in Europe probably helped America more. Europe has purchased a lot of arms from America, giving them preferential placement

America has been in far more wars outside of its borders than Europe. These were not NATO wars.

Piece of Shit America has been protecting your freedom for more than a century...have a little gratitude.

We had a lot of gratitude for non Trumpian America, and the Euro/US relationship was one that benefited both parties. Yes European and the US are in many ways different places but we had plenty in common to unite us. Yes you can argue the US had a point about the lack of European defence spending and that to some extent trade needed to be rebalanced. The US could feel at least on defence spending it wasn't being listened and could say hey look we will support you to a certain extent but as this is a European matter you need to shoulder the bulk of the cost.

But when the Trump administration starts an aggressive trade war on wholly unreasonable grounds against Europe when Europe is trying to support Ukraine in a fight for its survival, when it starts to actively advocates for a deal that strongly favours a state hostile to Europe, a deal that compromises a European countries very existence and jeopardizes European security as a whole, when it speaks of wanting to incorporate sovereign European territory into its own country against international law, when it pressures Europe to allow its tech company free reign to operate virtually unregulated in European markets and when it actively seeks to meddle in European politics, going against all politic norms by criticising and thus undermining the current governments of Europe and actively endorsing far right political groups in Europe, I do feel that Europe is entitled to say to Trump and MAGA America show us motherf*cking respect you dumb ass ignorant clowns or f*ck off back to whatever hillbilly camper van you came from.

Now thankfully the European leaders have the big boy pants on and are not going to resort to that...for now. While European leaders will tolerate a lot of Trumps crap partially and take domestic political hits for doing so out of hope that the relationship can be mended long term and partially out of its own weakness, if Trump really does try to throw Ukraine under the bus (as in actually stop selling Europe weapons to give to Ukraine, stop intelligence sharing and counting to advocate for peace on Putin's terms) a split might not only be evitable and irrevocable but the relationship might get very nasty. For now Europe's leaders can leave it to opposition leaders, the political parties not in power, the media and social media to vent at what most of Europe really thinks of MAGA. Hopefully a reasonable moderate President comes along after Trump and the relationship can be repaired but Trump has already done a lot of damage. Whoever that might be is probably going to spend four years apologising to the rest of the world for Trumps behaviour.

You mean the Irish support for the Ukraine, which is lower per capita than the US?

Europe would have been the German Empire, were it not for the US….and if you start the clock after WW2 it would be part of the Russian empire…..they were already in Berlin with the most powerful tank army in Europe in 1945.

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You mean the Irish support for the Ukraine, which is lower per capita than the US

I can recall before when I happened to bring up Ireland yearly GDP growth figures you pointed out correctly at the time Ireland's GDP figures were exaggerated and this was due to the presence of multinational companies in Ireland which distorted Irelands economic numbers. The Irish government actually have taken the same view and hence the preferred more accurate measurement of Ireland's economy is a modified version of GNI or GNI* as it's referred to here, which mean's Irelands actual economy while still doing well overall is noticeable smaller than the GDP figure alone with indicate. I'll be generous here and assume that was you just genuinely forgetting that. But it does move Ireland up a couple of places on that list you posted in the other thread.

Now also in comparison to other European countries, Ireland in terms of aid to Ukraine Ireland generally ranks quite low, but we also are among the lowest if not the lowest country when it comes to giving money to Russia for energy. Multiple major European countries have actually spent more on Russian energy since the start of the war than they have given to Ukraine in aid. Indeed Ukraine itself permits Russian gas pumped through Ukrainian territory so it can collect the transit fees worth hundreds of millions.

Now when it comes to other area's Ireland has taken in more Ukrainian refugees per population than the US has. We was also one of the most generous nations in providing financial to Ukrainian refugees which resulted in Ukrainian refugees in other Europe moving to Ireland.. It's also been a steadfast supporter of Ukrainian territorial integrity and a steadfast supporter of Ukraine joining the EU. At no time has Ireland pressured Ukraine into accepting a deal that could compromise it's long term security.

Having said that I do agree that Ireland should do more for Ukraine, we are a comparatively rich country and Irish people need to understand that Europe is interconnected. What happens in Ukraine matters to all of us in Europe. I do believe need to spend more on defence and we have the capability to do so. I believe we should be in NATO, we should not be reliant on other European countries to protect our skies and seas. We should be a potential weak spot in European security .There is some talk of this in Ireland at the moment this but I know the politicians are slow walking it and no decisions will be made until after the war in Ukraine is over. I personally have donated hundreds directly to the Ukrainian military and will donate more when I can.

But here's the thing, I'd imagine if you went to Ukraine and spoke to the average Ukrainian and asked them about Ireland and the US I'd imagine their view of Ireland is that it's small country that they appreciate the political support, grateful for the taking in of Ukrainian refugees and if Ireland can provide more support they would be grateful, but Ireland is not a major country and even Ireland massively increasing aid wouldn't make a huge amount of difference and as it result its not a country they think much about. The US on other hand is country that does matter given its size and power. I'd imagine the average Ukrainian is deeply grateful for the aid provided by the Biden administration, but hold deep contempt for the Trump administrations exploitive attempts to force it to accept to what amount to surrender terms and see it nothing more than a stab in the back from the supposed leader of the free world while they fight and die for freedom.

Europe would have been the German Empire, were it not for the US….and if you start the clock after WW2 it would be part of the Russian empire…..they were already in Berlin with the most powerful tank army in Europe in 1945.

Assuming all that was true which is highly debateable, none of that justifies Trump's present actions. And what's more you know it. Stop playing the game as you called it and try being a human being for once.

The children often don’t understand why the parents do things

The children often don’t understand why the parents do things

Tx child, for once we agree.

A bit weak, but I’ll take any post you make which isn’t about how unfair the world is.

The Prime Minister of Italy, Giorgia Meloni, addresses Donald Trump: “Don’t expect us to be submissive — freedom has its price.”

?? According to her, while everyone is panicking over the possibility that Trump might withdraw US troops from Europe, she is not begging anyone because she exposes Europe’s 80 years of laziness.

?? “Wake up, grow up, and stop claiming that US protection was ever free. It has always come with certain conditions.”

?? Meloni says she is not anti-American; she wants a strong relationship with the US, but one based on respect, not dependence. She no longer wants to take orders from foreign bosses.

?? “For 80 years, we entrusted our security to the US and acted as if it were free. It was not. The price was being shackled by conditions. Freedom has its price, and unlike others, we never liked foreign interference, no matter where it came from.”

?? “We always prefer expensive freedom over very expensive but seemingly comfortable slavery. We must strengthen ties with the US, but on an equal dialogue basis, not from a subordinate position. Europe must finally build a NATO pillar that, through its strength and dignity, will be equal to the American one and able to engage with all the powers of the world.”

Bono from Ireland.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RTYr8a-1zP0

Not only was the protection free courtesy of the US tax payer, but Europe then harvested additional American largesse by imposing duties on US products. The conditions mostly came from Europe and were imposed on the USA.