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Donald Trump's refusal to concede defies long tradition of classy speeches by losing candidates

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
09 Nov 2020, 06:51
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09 Nov 2020, 06:51#1

Washington - US President Donald Trump was playing golf Saturday when Joe Biden was declared the winner of the bitterly contested 2020 election. Unlike other election losers, Trump did not congratulate his opponent or give a concession speech. Instead he released a statement falsely claiming voter fraud and vowing that "this election is far from over."


Historically, when a presidential candidate has lost, he has written, telegrammed or called his opponent to offer congratulations. In the television age, losing candidates have also made a public concession speech, almost all containing the same elements: 1) an acknowledgment of the will of voters, 2) a prayer or message of support for the winner, 3) a call to heal the divisions of the campaign, and 4) when it applies, a promise of a smooth transition of power.

For example, here's what President George H.W. Bush said in 1992 when he conceded to Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton:

"Well, here's the way I see it ... the people have spoken, and we respect the majesty of the Democratic system. I just called Gov. Clinton over in Little Rock and offered my congratulations ... I want the country to know that our entire administration will work closely with his team to ensure the smooth transition of power. There is important work to be done, and America must always come first, so we will get behind this new president and wish him well."

Bush was a one-term president, like Trump soon will be, which can carry with it a certain sting. Upon losing to California Gov. Ronald Reagan in 1980, fellow one-termer President Jimmy Carter described it like this:

"I promised you four years ago that I would never lie to you, so I can't stand here and say that it doesn't hurt. The people of the United States have made their choice, and of course I accept their decision, but, I have to admit, not with the same enthusiasm that I accepted the decision four years ago. I've a deep appreciation of the system, however, that lets people make a free choice about who will lead them for the next four years ..."


Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who lost to Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in 2008, not only congratulated his opponent but acknowledged the importance of the moment:

"This is an historic election, and I recognize the special significance it has for African Americans, and for the special pride that must be theirs tonight ... A century ago, President Theodore Roosevelt's invitation of Booker T. Washington to dine at the White House was taken as an outrage in many quarters. America today is a world away from the cruel and prideful bigotry of that time. There is no better evidence of this than the election of an African American to the presidency of the United States."

In 1952, Adlai Stevenson said a prayer for winner Dwight Eisenhower: "That you may be the servant and guardian of peace and make the vale of trouble a door of hope, here's my earnest prayer." As did Mitt Romney for Obama in 2012: "I so wish that I had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction. But the nation chose another leader. And so Ann (Romney) and I join with you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation."

Some candidates, such as Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas in 1996, attempt a joke to open their speeches:

"I was thinking on my way down the elevator, 'Tomorrow is the first time in my life I don't have anything to do.' ... Let me say, I talked to President Clinton, we had a good visit, and I congratulated him. ... I have said repeatedly in this campaign that the president is my opponent, not my enemy. And I wish him well, and I pledge my support in whatever advances the cause of a better America."

But even if the defeat is too bitter for jokes - for instance, you lost every state but your own or you won the popular vote but not the electoral college - it is vital to still accept the results of the election. Here's Walter Mondale after winning only the District of Columbia and his home state of Minnesota in 1984: "We rejoice in the freedom of a wonderful people, and we accept their verdict." And here's how Hillary Clinton handled winning 3 million more votes than Donald Trump but falling far short in the electoral college four years ago:

"I still believe in America, and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead. Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power. And we don't just respect that, we cherish it."

When Richard Nixon narrowly lost to John Kennedy in 1960, he made the standard dignified speech, congratulating Kennedy and promising to support him. If you don't remember it that way, it may be that you're confusing it with Nixon's speech two years later, when he lost the California governor's race and gave a famously self-pitying speech saying, "You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore," and promising it was his last news conference. (It wasn't. He won the presidency six years later.)

In 1976, first lady Betty Ford gave husband Gerald Ford's concession speech for him, as his voice had become too raspy and strained that evening to make it through another address.

Of all concession speeches, though, former vice president Al Gore's is the gold standard. This speech had everything: opening joke, congratulations, acceptance of the result, a prayer, a call to heal, and the teeny-tiniest hint of bitterness. It even contains a quote from another election loser: Stephen Douglas speaking to Abraham Lincoln.

On election night 2000, Gore famously conceded to Texas Gov. George W. Bush and then retracted his concession when it became clear Florida was too close to call. Five weeks later, after Supreme Court intervention and the presidency going to Bush, Gore made this speech:

"Just moments ago, I spoke with George W. Bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president of the United States. And I promised him that I wouldn't call him back this time. I offered to meet with him as soon as possible so we can start to heal the divisions of the campaign and the contest through which we've just passed.

"Almost a century and a half ago, Senator Stephen Douglas told Abraham Lincoln, who had just defeated him for the presidency: 'Partisan feeling must yield to patriotism. I'm with you, Mr. President, and God bless you.' Well, in that same spirit, I say to President-elect Bush that what remains of partisan rancor must now be put aside, and may God bless his stewardship of this country.

"... Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the Court's decision, I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome, which will be ratified next Monday and the electoral college, and tonight, for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession.

"... (H)istory gives us many examples of contests as hotly debated and as fiercely fought, with their own challenges to the popular will. Other disputes have dragged on for weeks before reaching resolution, and each time, both the victor and the vanquished have accepted the result peacefully and in a spirit of reconciliation. So let it be with us."


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
09 Nov 2020, 12:12
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09 Nov 2020, 12:12#2

Cloudy, your avatar makes me think of the differences between Bozo and Jacinda Adern.

Character

Bozo has no manners, he calls people childish names and behaves like a boorish arsehole. 

Jacinda Adern is charming, eloquent and I can't think of a single instance where she was anything but respectful toward the other person.

Handling of Covid

Bozo denied Covid19, downplayed it, lied about it, claimed he knew more about it than the professionals and mocked people who took it seriously and wore masks, resulting in the USA having the most cases in the world and 735 deaths per million of the population. 

JA took it extremely seriously, listened to the science and enforced effective lockdowns, resulting in New Zealand having a total of 5 deaths per million of the pop ulation.

2020 election

Bozo lost, becoming the first one-term failure since George Bush Snr and losing to a confused and senile coffin-dodger.

JA won in a landslide, and as far as I know this is the first time in a while that a party has won enough seats to govern alone.

Stark differences wherever you look . . . and both got their just deserts.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Nov 2020, 18:00
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09 Nov 2020, 18:00#3

"Bozo has no manners, he calls people childish names and behaves like a boorish arsehole. "

Textbook irony...look who's talking!!!!

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
09 Nov 2020, 18:46
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09 Nov 2020, 18:46#4

So from the comments thus far it appears that it is acceptable to:

1. Allow dead people to vote.

2. Allow vote postal dates to be altered.

3. Allow postal votes to be mailed in the day after the election.

4. Allow the officials opening the postal votes to reject and dump         postal votes instead of keeping them in case the is a recount.

    These discarded votes are then sent to a department that destroys these ballads.

5. Allow out of state non postal vehicles to deliver postal ballads on the 6th of November at 04h00 hours (4 am) to the counting stations in both Pittsburg and Philly.

6. Allow illegal persons to vote with no validation of their state, country or status within the USA.

7. Allow computer glitches to switch votes (in Michigan and who knows witch other states) from Trump to Biden, 6,000 at a time.

   In the state mentioned 47 polling stations out of 96 use this computer program.

8. Allow the Demorat officials to block Republican's who are on site access to the counting room to supervise the process.  

So before you folks get to carried away does it seem fair?

I would suggest you all are in agreement that this is the way to hold elections and fix the result.

Legal and acceptable to according to Lefties and people ruled by their hate I guess. 

Four More Years. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Nov 2020, 18:50
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09 Nov 2020, 18:50#5

What about al Gore and Bush.  That took 37 days to settle.

In this case never in US history has there been such monumental voter fraud.

Read my posts you absurd dumb clucks.

The glory of God is not furthered by Satanic marxist leaning sellout China Joe who SUPPORTS ABORTION UP TO TERM.

China Joe said a child  of 8 should be able to choose his/her sex (because God made a mistake).

Joe also ran cover for his cocaine addled son Hunter who had sex orgies and messed with under age girls.  All documented 

Only the most perverse fascist could be happy that the laptop from hell where there were pictures emails etc showing Hunters sick behaviour were not covered by the globalist media and banned by big tech. Or how the big guy, China Joe,  was in on the influence peddling deals where he was given a 10% cut.

The Biden Crime family was involved in huge corruption in China and the Ukraine as well as Russia where the Putin connected wife of the mayor of Moscow gave Hunter 3.5 million dollars. All the evidence is there on the laptop which the DOJ has now confirmed as belong to Hunter etc

So China Joe China Joe is owned by China and compromised vis a vis Russia as well. Hunter went on Airforce 2 and walk away with  1.5 BILLION dollars to invest for a  Chinese firm. He has zero investment experience. From another Chinese energy firm he was getting 10 million dollars a year for introductions. The emails on the laptop show who he introduced to China Joe. A firm was formed to handle all this stuff and an email exists showing how the determined to profits be split. As mentioned the big guy Joe Biden was to get 10%. Poor Hunter in one email lamented that the fact he had to pay 50% of his salary over to China Joe.

Actually its all a very sad human story. Rudy Giuliani asked what sort of father would use a drug addicted son to bea bagman for him.

Joe's brother also used the Biden name to get a billion dollar contract building houses in the middle east.

Given all the information now out about  the Biden Crime Family, the Clinton crime family and of course the corrupt Deep State and demonrats, should Trump gain re-election there is a lot to clean up.

I hear something significant will drop this week about the Durham investigation.

China's hold on Biden is very serious and many Aussies and India are very worried. Biden cant stand  up to China. The dumbed down kiwis here have no clue what is happening as the gobble up the Lord knows what re boils they make!

We shall see what happens. Trump is very definitely still in with a reasonably good chance to win.

That all depends on how many Rinos there are on the Supreme Court and in the legislatures where GP has control of battle ground states.

As for the oafs commenting -  your drivel 

makes you look so ridiculous!!!  Your ignorance is appalling!




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