Donald Trump . . .

First off, note that I have not used my usual "Bozo" epithet for the man. That's because this post is not about judging him or venting my well-documented opinion of him, it's actually to commend him in a way and recognise something quite remarkable about him.

He is the most polarising person in history . . . well, in my lifetime anyway.

Some would say Hitler was a very polarising person as well because as much as we all despise him after history has dealt with him, the German people adored him . . . but in global terms it was only a small majority of German nationalists compared to pretty much everyone else in the world at that time (except maybet the Japanese) whereas with Trump, it's about 50/50 I'd guess.

Think about it. No-one I know is on the fence with Donald Trump. You either love him or hate him. You can have as many philosophical, religious or political debates as you like but if you want to find out if you're compatible with someone, save yourself the trouble and simply ask their opinion of Donald Trump.

It would probably save a lot of marriages in the future if it became illegal for a Trumpanzee and a Trump-basher to wed.  Same in the workplace. It would save a lot of time, money and effort if job interview questions started off asking the candidate's opinion of Trump and either continued or not depending on the answer. You'd know if the person fits the culture or not.

Trumpanzees or Trump-bashers. We're all one or the other on this board and after religion, it's probably the clearest distinction between us posters that overrides any rugby, political or social differences we have.

That is quite remarkable. I'll give Donald Trump that much. 

Certainly divisive, don't think he intended it to be but the cut is straight down the middle as you say, and it's not like anyone is interested in finding a middle ground. To be honest, in a funny kind of way I'm glad he came along.

I certainly took a keen er interest in US politics than I ever have in my life before.

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Try and find the real reason for divisiveness in the USA - Trump had very little to do with the issue - it has more to do with differences in the American population that drifted towards two extreme and opposing political beliefs.   The Democrats moved from center left to left and a large element of extreme leftist socialism is inherent in the party.   The Republicans moved from  center right to rightwing - they do not allow extreme groups like the KKK and other ultra - rightwing extremists to represent the party at all.

That being the case the hate-Trump campaign in the media owned by the ULTRA-RICH starting in 2015 - based entirely on lies concocted by the Obama Administration and the Democrats - about collusion between Trump and Putin further drove the people apart.

I do not think that the division could be solved easily.    The possible reduction could be when Trump is out of the picture and replaced by a person like De Santis and the Democrats get rid of Biden as candidate in 2024.   However, the Democrats cannot elect a person on their own - the  Ultra-Rich and the media they own will decide on the issue.     

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That's 4 times that the two lonely brain cells in ou Maaik's immensely thick skull have tried to make contact. No success yet.

Rooinek - I was taking a long time in writing the response and when I eventually finished it and pressed the button once it came out 4 times.  

Contact on the 5th attempt. The stupidity is finally released.

Ou Maaik, are you betting at Kenilworth today?

What is ironic is that most people who like Trump are religious right wingers.

Trump is not religious, and he has voted Democrat for most of his life. 

He is certainly not a typical Conservative, except he does not like paying tax- a bit like Elon Musk.

He is certainly not a Liberal either, but if you hear him talk in videos like thirty years ago he is more Democratic than Conservative. 

He is flat out a conman, he will play people off against other if it suits his agenda. He talks about grievances of the white working class to get support with no intention of actually solving these problems. 

If he ever did get back the presidency, he would certainly be Americas first dictator for life with Don Jr taking over when he dies of old age. Like Putin he is addicted to power. The Trumpzees would soon learn their master is not who they think he is .

Americas social problems stem from less competition in the economy, causing the shrinking middle class and centralisation of wealth in fewer hands. This is making the US more authoritarian, and less Democratic. They may have peaked as a civilisation and now on a downward curve. Although the same could be said about other Western countries like the UK.

Trump has jumped on this opportunity and almost pulled off ending Democracy. 

Yes, most of the Trumpanzees on this board are also god-botherers.

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Trump is not a rightwinger - he is not anything like the way the Democrats is nowadays - an extremely leftist party.      That is one of the reasons why he left the Democrats.  Trump- promised a fair deal for everybody in America and as President lived up to his undertaking.

I have two quotes  from you and will deal with the two:-

"He is certainly not a typical Conservative, except he does not like paying tax- a bit like Elon Musk."

On what do you base the above story?   Trump did not take his salary while President and went entirely to welfare organizations identified by him.   As such he has no tax due in respect of the  period 2017 to 2020.   His companies paid their normal tax due.   Trump even paid by representatives of other Governments or delegations staying in his Washington Hotel over to the USA Government.   Trump also paid the salaries of his family members working in the WH - that is new since the US Presidents in the past and in the case of Biden the salaries are paid by the State.

There was nothing wrong in his tax forms and nothing illegal about it.

"He is flat out a conman, he will play people off against other if it suits his agenda. He talks about grievances of the white working class to get support with no intention of actually solving these problems."

Any proof of the above - please provide.    What he promised the people in the 2016  election he delivered to them.  He did more for the Blacks and the Hispanics in 4 years as president than the Democrats did in 50 years,    If you go through his economic policy and the financial conditions of all workers - they were better off in 2019 than they are today.

The rest of your contribution is utter BS only a total idiot would come up with.   If there are people with dictatorship ideas look no further than the WEF - the paymasters and puppet-masters of the Democratic Party.  Those are dangerous people who wants to apply the China model of Government throughout the world.   

Brent was $40 odd a barrel and inflation was in check...I'll take mean/decisive over incompetence every day of the week.

The term Trumper/Trumpanzee is just another guise for Nazi, White Supremacist, Racist, Sexist etc. To stigmatize people from seeking truth or supporting someone that might help them. The MSM were telling people to kick their children out of the house (many did, even as young as 6!), end marriages, friendships, fire employees if they even remotely supported Trump. Judge a tree by its fruit... the leftists are a cesspit of evil. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Trump was the best thing for America in decades. 

And sure enough the Trumpzees are out in full force to support their master 

The one thing that did surprise me was recently Trump said he did not support ending state pensions, when many Republican politicians want to end this to reduce Americas debt levels. Instead of say making the rich pay the same % tax as anyone else). 

He rightly pointed out thar these people have paid tax during their lives for this.

I can't understand why people would vote for a politian that would do this, as it is obvious they only represent billionaire who want to avoid tax. 

Poor old viskop and Rooitwit taking their daily pounding. To still be taken in by the lying  Globalist media after some 7 years or so shows that you are an extraordinarily weak gullible person incapable of independent thought. You are a captured "brain" mastered by your Globalist Lords.

For many years American Patriots had no voice. The Uniparty ruled Supreme gradually destroying the country. The Obama years were so bad (national debt doubled) that Trump decided to leave his life of luxury and run for President.

His message was authentic and the America people responded in an unbelievable way.. Immediately cries of Russian Collusion rang out. The fake dossier was presented and the witch hunt began when AG  Sessions recused himself and left Trump open to attack. It was relentless every night lies about Trump and Russia. He was a Russian agent no less.

I don't think there is any American President who has been so lied about and smeared in every conceivable way.  Again and again and again he was vindicated. This infuriated the Marxist Globalist left more as they ended up be shown to be liars. Shifty Schiff said there was evidence in plain view but had none. 

Many of the people who hated Trump did so because of media lies. On Twitter today you will find these people spewing out lies that have been completely debunked. People like Oinkie and Sharktwit have a mindset regarding Trump that is a media creation.

Today we know without a shadow of doubt that the Globalist media is in bed with the democrats. As are Big Tech till Elon bought Twitter. As are Hollywood and much of academia. As are the various agencies like the CIA, FBI and so on. The Twitter dumps prove this conclusively.

The whole power of the Globalist establishment was bought to bear on President Trump as he threatened their entire world agenda. He had to go. They could not get him voted out so they rigged the election in a most shameful and brazen way. 

Now look at the mess the world is in as tbe Globalist push forward their agenda. Fortunately the Great Awakening Trump started is waking people up and the WEF Globalists are facing severe headwinds.

The various components of the Globalist agenda  have been unmasked. The battle rages. 

Trump was right about most things he attempted, his presidency was substantially sabotaged…..but he still left the country in much better shape. Strong enough to withstand Covid and dramatic interest increases. The inflation resulted because the Fed failed to tighten early enough and the Biden administration poured money into the economy at exactly the wrong time.

He was also right about NATO and China….even though his initiatives were doomed to fail because he had no support.

Where it started to unravel for him was in the Covid briefings. He tried to create a problem solving environment when all the media wanted to do was punish him. His comments were completely twisted….but they were always going to be twisted, he got that wrong.

Then during the debates he needed to show just a little empathy to the 51% that weren’t firmly in his camp. To be a little reassuring, a little presidential. Instead he and his handlers decided on an attack strategy that confirmed the negatives. I’m also convinced he was sick in the first debate.

The whole post election thing was a huge mistake. January 6 was a huge mistake….if he had conceded gracefully there would be a wave of sentiment for him to come back given how badly things have been managed and frankly what an awful place the world is in. The US President has more influence on that than any other human.

But given all that happened after the election and all the political fodder that created, and his age, we need somebody else to carry on his agenda.

Contrary to what the people in the box think, I don't side with either the right or the left. I may agree with one more than the other, but that's another matter entirely. My candidate, the true King, H e will be here soon enough. 

A smart leftist would be very quiet about Trump after these abysmal years of Obiden. 

For one thing I have never said he has done nothing good for America. To me it is the man's personality that fucks me off, he continuious personal attacks, his continued spreading of lies/half truths just his whole persona screams narcissist, if the man just had 10% humility would be a vast improvement. 

I am afraid he showed his true colors in 2020, any other era Americans as a whole would have turned their backs on him and be calling for his head.

It just shows how damaged America has become  

On your polarizing point Peeper…there are plenty of people who see his good side and his bad side. My guess is about 30% of those, 20% who think he can do no wrong…..and a massive 50% of emotionally retarded types who can’t see anything good about the man or his policies. Those are the morons who enabled the destructive Russia hoax.

So many here are so polarized that there is no middle ground.

People like been shit its his way or everyone is a lefty fuckwit.

Most people are center (little right or left) but the narcissists only see black and white, believe everything I do or you are far left.

We continually get pro gay,=woke leftist, dislike the man (trump)= leftist, non Christian=Satanist, pro gay right= pedophile.

Same old BS over and over, so narrow minded  it is a form of insanity.

Thankfully the majority isn't as brainwashed as these retards

Hey plumbum I am attacking the religion not the person. If you are happy to live in ignorance then so be it but don't  expect others to be so narrow minded. 

Funny how an attack on a religion is seen as a personal attack, on that basis any discussion on any topic is a personal attack. Therefore you are just as guilty as me and everyone else on this forum. You really need to think before you post.

No belief is so sacred that it cannot be questioned.

I discuss religion  because the subject fascinates me, I am open to being convinced but so far no one has provided one iota of evidence, it's all personal feelings and faith. Since none of you can come up with one shred of evidence I am waiting for your God to but he doesn't seem to care.

Humility is knowing that you don't know everything, I know not everything I know is a fact, all I can do is go on the information available and make a decision. 

Plenty on here that ability is beyond them(you, beenshit, dumbmike for a start) provide me with credible evidence and facts and I am happy to change my mind, can you say the same?

I know beenshit could be hit in the face (and he has been many times) but he arrogantly holds fast to what he wants to believe no exception because he is so hard wired to his insanity he has no choice.

Your God visits me tomorrow I will gladly become a believer. If Thor turned up to beenshit do you think he would change his beliefs not a snowballs chance in hell. He loves his insanity more than anything

Said all I have to say on trump, did you not understand my post?

And I only post personal insults to those that choose to personally insult me first.

Insult me then you can only expect the same in return.

You come across as one of our precious ones that love to dish it out put run off crying to mum when someone replies in kind.

Maybe a therapist could help you with your fragile personality (did your mum not love you enough or is it daddy issues that made you a soft wee petal?)

Said all I have to say on trump, did you not understand my post?

And I only post personal insults to those that choose to personally insult me first.

Insult me then you can only expect the same in return.

You come across as one of our precious ones that love to dish it out put run off crying to mum when someone replies in kind.

Maybe a therapist could help you with your fragile personality (did your mum not love you enough or is it daddy issues that made you a soft wee petal?)

Said all I have to say on trump, did you not understand my post?

And I only post personal insults to those that choose to personally insult me first.

Insult me then you can only expect the same in return.

You come across as one of our precious ones that love to dish it out put run off crying to mum when someone replies in kind.

Maybe a therapist could help you with your fragile personality (did your mum not love you enough or is it daddy issues that made you a soft wee petal?)

Fark got dumb Mike's disease and I waited 30 seconds to resubmit it.

Maybe it's not just as simple as him being impatient lol

Old Moz up to his nonsense once again. 

If I was Moz I would be very much more careful what I said about the whole Democrat nonsense regarding Jan 6. I have already seen enough video and other evidence to know Jan 6 was set up by the Demonrats and FBI. 

You should know that Speaker McCarthy has handed over 44,000 hours of video evidence to the Tucker Carlson team. But as I have said already a lot of evidence has come out that completely smashes the Demorat lies about Jan 6.

This is going to be as devastating as the Twitter dumps and will also inform the investigations going on in the House.  It's going to be great.

Mike Lindell is also launching a court case to get hold of the 44,000 hours. There is now going to be nowhere to hide for the Demonrats, Piglosi and the fake Jan 6 Committee. 

Trump will win the GOP nomination easily. DeSantis sunk some 13 points in recent polls. Now I see evidence has emerged that he supported a bill some time ago in Congress to grant Peurto Rico statehood. This would have meant mean two extra Democrat Senators. The documents were shared on Twitter by National File.

This supports Trump's claim this Harvard graduate is a Rino and could severely damage DeSantis. It would be a great pity if he turns out to be another under cover operator as he has done a great job in Florida.

Oaks the very big problem some of you have is you know very little about what is happening. Poor old ol d crust fan is so dumb he doesn't even know how ignorant he is!

Sharktwit isn't off first base and Oinkie is still in the locker room. StavAss and the very dense Denise are pure mampara. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I just hope these dopes appreciate my giving some of my valuable time to educate them! 

Old crust if you are really interested in finding truth I commend the Bible to you. However don't take this book as any other book. You must pray and ask God to teach you. With your current darkened mind, orejucises and Crooked thinking you will get in a horrible tangle. 

Humble yourself, ask and pray. 

Harder cases than you have come to the Lord.