.....this from the man that said that the US had little risk back at the start of February. To quote Agatha Christie.....there are two things I don’t like about Dr Fauci....his face.
Dr Fauci says America could have saved lives if it acted earlier...
I understand that this Dr. is going to have a tough period once the dust settles.
First, there is the question about the money that was illegally transferred to WHO during Obama's second term in the "House" while programs in the USA had funds denied to allow for this transfer.
Second, how did Dr Fauci know way back in 2016 or 2017 that President Trump would have a PANDEMIC issue to face in his first term.
It sounds to me like he is not the guy you see on TV every night.
Surely he must be getting to the end of the rope that the President is holding.
And then we have this......(wonder who around here has been hinting at the same issue?):
Both countries were very slow to act, and neither applied social distancing quickly - the only proven way to slow down the spread fast enough.
Germany are the model of how to deal with Corona.
When people around the world think of the UK's approach, they think herd immunity. The government later backtracked completely and went for social distancing. However, by that stage it was very far down the line.
The UK now has the highest death rate per capita in the world. The US are about to reopen much of the country - and the curve has not flattened. The assumption appears to be that because inland is less crowded, it will limit the ability of Corona to spread. Maybe it works- but worst case scenario, it will just spread from the coast to the inland states in the same manner.
@Ceradyne, lots of unknowns.
Germany for example seems to have dealt with it the best.
However, their is also speculation that Covid-19 might have been around for longer than realized as the A-strain. The A-strain is the weakest one, any most people would not have had symptoms of it.
If a country was fortunate to get the A-strain early on and it spread rapidly, the idea is that they would then be more immune to the B and C strains.
Another hypothesis is that countries taking certain outdated vaccines as kids, may also be more resistant to Corona. Somehow these outdated vaccines are countering the Coronavirus.
Weather also appears to be a factor, with warmer climates seemingly more resistant- at least on data available to date.
So their are a few factors that might influence how hard a country is hit, not just how the government and medical experts have dealt with it.
If these are not actually factors and no others exist, then Germany is the model how to deal with it.
All will be revealed one this is over and their are investigations.
sbvirus according to the Worldometer the UK does NOT have the highest death rate per capita. Here are some death rates per million:
USA 118
Spain 437
Italy 384
France 296
UK 237
Germany 54
Now these countries I hear did not lock down their economies:
Sweden 152
Japan 2
Belarus 5
Brazil 11
So why are countries not locking down doing so well. Trump seems to think these countries who take the Herd route are doing badly. Trump of course is advised by Fauci and Birx.
What the heck is going on?
“ Germany for example seems to have dealt with it the best. “
I am by no means disputing that the U.K. was not out of the blocks quick enough but they are in a bit of a spot with London, TBH, being the European financial and tech hub that it is.
The other big issue, that the video clip is eluding to, is the one unknown number that nobody knew and probably still do not really know. That is the number of people contaminated by the virus. It now seems that there were many many more who were already infected without them even knowing they were infected.
The net result of that fact is that the number of dead was a constant and known beyond any doubt, while the infected now seems to have been thousands more. The effect of that is that the ratio between the number of infected people and those who died is way smaller than initially estimated. That means one thing. The virus is not as deadly as was feared. Now, the difference between Germany and the rest... Germany had way more people who were tested than other European countries. In addition they reported their deaths different. Most countries recorded all numbers of people who have died and who also had the coronavirus as deaths due to the coronavirus.
I have read somewhere that the Germany figures are people who had no other comorbidities and who died from the coronavirus alone. That makes a massive difference.
This from the Wall Street Journal:
‘On the other hand, Germany could also be failing to identify some deaths caused by the coronavirus. This is because German hospitals typically don’t perform postmortem tests, like Italy now does. Some people who died of the disease after being hospitalized for a different condition, such as cancer, may not appear in German statistics.’
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Clearly there are differences between countries eg in ventilator availability and demographics, but these ought to generate marginal differences in death rates. The differences between Italy and Germany for example are more likely to come from wider testing in Germany increasing the denominator....or from protocols around assigning deaths to Covid.
In the US the practice appears to be if a patient died with Covid, he is assumed to have died of Covid.
Interesting point Draad.
Mozart
I tried to point out the same thing under another thread, You put it must clearer - that is why I think that the deaths could be the result of existing health problems not related to the virus and they would have died without the virus anyway,
Some clarity could be attained if normal deaths in previous years compared with deaths this year for the same diseases are studied and evaluated. If there is a variation in the figures the assigning of deaths to corona virus deaths is probably not valid. The same applies to the age situation where older people are dying and the deaths are blamed solely on the virus.
They are beginning to get the needed stats Mike....but it’s been a long time coming!
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