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Folau launches legal action over homophobia sacking

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Aug 2019, 10:46
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01 Aug 2019, 10:46#1

Great news Folau is going to sthe pants off freak nz goth women Raylene and the ARU. Lets hope he succeeds!


Sydney - Fallen star Israel Folau has launched legal action against Rugby Australia and the Waratahs for unfair dismissal, he confirmed Thursday, reportedly demanding an apology, compensation and the right to play again after he was sacked for making homophobic comments.

Super Rugby's record try-scorer, who was on a A$1 million-a-year (around R9.8 million), four-year contract, was fired in May for posting online that "hell awaits" gay people and others he considers sinners.

The devout Christian opted not to appeal and mediation attempts failed, prompting Folau to take the highly divisive case, which has drawn support from conservatives and outrage elsewhere, to the courts.

"A conciliation before the Fair Work Commission did not resolve the matters between us. Accordingly, I am commencing court proceedings against Rugby Australia and the NSW Waratahs," he said in a video message.

Folau, who has played 73 times for the Wallabies, raised more than A$2 million in just two days through the Australian Christian Lobby to help pay his legal fees, before the appeal was paused, with enough money "for now".

It replaced a GoFundMe crowdfunding campaign that was shut down after raising more than A$700 000, with the platform saying it would not "tolerate the promotion of discrimination or exclusion".

The Australian newspaper said Folau's eight-page claim, lodged with the Federal Circuit Court in Melbourne this week, argued he was unlawfully dismissed under a section of Australia's Fair Work Act that disallowed sackings because of a person's religion.

It said the 30-year-old was seeking compensation, interest, damages, injunctive relief and penalties that could run to hundreds of thousands of dollars, along with an apology and full reinstatement.

Previous reports put the compensation figure at A$10 million, including for lost sponsorship and marketing opportunities, a sum that could prove disastrous for Rugby Australia.(NZ PERVS DOUBTLESS APPLAUD RAYLENE)

The governing body had no immediate comment Thursday, but has insisted Folau's firing was purely contractual, saying he had agreed not to disparage anyone over their sexual orientation following a similar controversy last year.

"I have been blessed to have received the support of tens of thousands of Australians throughout my journey, and I want to say thank you to everyone who has offered their prayers and support," Folau added in his video message.

"It has meant so much to (wife) Maria and me over the last few months and gives us strength for the road ahead."


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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
01 Aug 2019, 12:09
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01 Aug 2019, 12:09#2

Why are other sports players allowed to comment on Folau's position,thereby stating their own position on religion.As Tim Horan says  "All players need to be muted from social media"

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Aug 2019, 12:30
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01 Aug 2019, 12:30#3

Moonrover the LGBT supremacists insist theirs is the only view that that is correct and that can be expressed.

Unfortunately some pervs here agree!

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Aug 2019, 12:39
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01 Aug 2019, 12:39#4

I wonder when he will finally admit...…. Oh...ok, this was God's plan after all.....

Maybe after the case has been heard in the high court of Australia, which would be Folau's last line of defense..... 

Maybe then God will finally speak to him and tell him that it was meant to be, after spending everyone else's money on his defense

Then he will probably move to Toulon for a contract there

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 Aug 2019, 13:06
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01 Aug 2019, 13:06#5
Why is Folau going to all this trouble and personal expense? Surely he should just pray to get his jersey back?
No?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Aug 2019, 13:40
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01 Aug 2019, 13:40#6
The bias against this man is apparent even in this article.....'he was sacked for making homophobic comments'. That's hardly an accurate description of what he said. But, oh well, I guess it's 'their truth'. Ten years ago when free speech was still a corner stone of Western Society he would have won this case easily. It will be interesting to see if the legal system has regressed as far as society has on this right.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Aug 2019, 13:55
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01 Aug 2019, 13:55#7

The LGBT supremacists have overplayed thei r hand. We shall see.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 Aug 2019, 14:04
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01 Aug 2019, 14:04#8
Meanwhile . . . Israel's cousin Josiah has been dumped by the Catholic school that he works for after he made the following comments regarding the Catholic Church:
"Look at Catholic doctrine, almost 100% of it is false and is filled with lies."
"The blasphemous Catholic mass is a paganistic ritual rooted in heresy, evil and devil worship."
"Roman Catholicism is masked devil worship."
You can read the article here.
Just how stupid are these people? Josiah will probably soon be asking people to help him fund a lawsuit because he's been unfairly dismissed!
LMAO!
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Aug 2019, 14:18
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01 Aug 2019, 14:18#9

LOL

Here is the inside story of "THAT" gay magazine cover appearance

What a hypocritical asshole this Folau is

Folau

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Aug 2019, 14:30
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01 Aug 2019, 14:30#10

Folau says God told him to do it

God told me to do it

I wonder what happens when someone steals something to feed his family and he says God told him to do it, to stop his children from starving.

Will he get the same support?, or is it wrong to say they are similar offences...… I mean...one guy genuinely believes that God told him to steal to feed his kids, and the other guy says that God told him to post homophobic versus on social media

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Aug 2019, 14:54
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01 Aug 2019, 14:54#11

Josiah getting it right of course. 

But you would only know that if you knew your Bible. 

It's crazy to see what these loons come up with!

They will be held accountable for all this foolishness. Best wise up. 

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Aug 2019, 15:20
#12
01 Aug 2019, 15:20#12

Hey Beeno

Your hero Folau deliberately used gay people to elevate his public profile

Then, when he became famous, he turned his back on these same gay people and insulted them on a regular basis on social networks

You must be so proud of this fellow Christian's behaviour.....

Oh wait, he can atone for all his sins this weekend again and still be in God's good books by late Sunday


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 Aug 2019, 15:27
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01 Aug 2019, 15:27#13
"Josiah getting it right of course."
Well, if Josiah can make a living preaching to Uncle Eni's congregation of about 15 people then maybe he did get it right . . . but if he's struggling to make ends meet because he lost his job at a Catholic school after calling Catholics devil-worshippers then he possibly didn't get it right at all . . . and demonstrated a level of stupidity that is almost in the Bozo league.
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
01 Aug 2019, 15:57
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01 Aug 2019, 15:57#14
It is amazing how one Christian group can call another Christian Group devil worshippers.  Somehow "their own" version of Christianity is the word of God.It is all self-delusion.  Abraham and his backward sons nonsense
The Folau's are clearly going to end up in politics. They see themselves as Jesus type of characters "spreading" the true word of God. Interpreting ancient text in their own version.  
That is what religion is. Imposing your own interpretation upon everyone else-  even if someone else shares the same religion - it is not your brand of that religion so it must be wrong. 
Even a simpleton like Beeno thinks his brand of religion is the right one. (That is until he shifts to a new church - and the whole cycle starts all over again)...
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 Aug 2019, 16:08
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01 Aug 2019, 16:08#15
Baboon-ou likes to pretend that christianity is booming but then - because he's as thick as two very thick planks tied together with a very thick piece of rope - he writes off Catholics as non-christians which pretty much halves his numbers and shows that Jesus is struggling for any credibility in today's world.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 16:21
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01 Aug 2019, 16:21#16

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 16:23
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01 Aug 2019, 16:23#17

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 16:25
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01 Aug 2019, 16:25#18

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 16:26
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01 Aug 2019, 16:26#19

I know some good Catholic people, but the top looks a bit corrupted to me. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 16:38
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01 Aug 2019, 16:38#20

As for his cousin, if he felt like that about the RCC, he should not have been working for them in the first place...and it's a fair dismissal. Israel's dismissal is distinctly different...still interested in seeing the exact facts of the case and the stipulations in his contract...and what the court decide...

There will be a question of facts and a question of law the court will have to answer before making a ruling either way...both will be interesting regardless of the outcome of the case ....to see where the line is drawn between liberties, and rights of individuals vs groups. How much offence is OK and when does it become "crimen injuria".

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Aug 2019, 17:04
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01 Aug 2019, 17:04#21

I just read this now, and I feel physically sick..... disgusted with some humans......you need to read the whole article

How is this possible

What God allows this to happen...…...

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Aug 2019, 17:09
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01 Aug 2019, 17:09#22

What this little 3 year old girl must have experienced before she was killed, after they have admitted to gang raping her for a entire day, and only then killed her because she was crying too much, is just beyond many things that I cannot even begin to comprehend

I have kids...…. I also know, that if I caught this guy, he would be locked away for a long time, so that the hurt that I inflicted on him, would last him a lifetime..... it would be a incredibly slow process, and a very  excruciating one.

I am truly sickened by what this supposed just God allows to happen to our very innocent children 

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
01 Aug 2019, 17:35
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01 Aug 2019, 17:35#23

What's wrong DA ,is the evil in this world getting to you?In your worldview man just gets worse for no reason.
All the atheist regimes have done is suppress and kill more people.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 18:19
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01 Aug 2019, 18:19#24

DA...stop blaming God for the Devil's corruption...if there is no God, there is no Devil and Evil does not exist and what happened is just random bad luck....You can't claim that there is no God and then blame Him for the bad things that happen....

Our perspective is too narrow...go and watch "The Shack"...you will cry BS and it will bore you to death, but it will give you a bit of insight into a wider perspective...this is a very complex issue. 

We have been lied to for centuries...don't fall for another lie.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 18:42
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01 Aug 2019, 18:42#25

PS, sorry for sounding prescriptive, not the intent , playing DA of sorts myself...like I said, complex issue. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Aug 2019, 19:53
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01 Aug 2019, 19:53#26

You still don't get it DA. 

Mankind as represented by Adam  allowed Satan into this world when they chose to obey Satan rather than God. Sin and death followed. 

But I understand your horror at the event. I read once that some Rabbis in the concentration camps cried out in dispair that there is no God when confronted with overwhelming evil. 

The antidote to this is that God the Father to save us from judgment sent His beloved Son to die an appaling death on a cross as a payment for our sin. He dies in my place. The other antidote is when you come to Know He Lives. 

Hence the beautiful hymn When I survey the Wondrous Cross on which the Prince Of Glory died. 

All this evil will end when Christ returns. Until then Satan will be going around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may DEVOUR. 

Many are deeply troubled by iniquity. If they are honest they see it in themselves and of course in others, sometimes to a degree that horrifies even other sinners. 

God is a God of Justice and there will be a day of reckoning. God will judge sinners. However in His love for mankind he was provided Salvation and the forgiveness of sin by the payment made by the blood that was shed by Christ. 

His blood availed for me. Will it avail for you DA. If you do not accept the pardon you and anybody else will pay for their sin themselves. They will not be adopted into the family of God as they don't want to be. They will not spend eternity with God because they don't want to. 

As Draad said, the presecence of immense evil is proof of something being very seriously wrong in this world. That is why the Apostle Paul said - we wrestle Not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers ie demonic forces influencing human beings, gaining control over them until they can do such horrific acts. 

Personally I see Satan's handiwork in the Globalist NWO. The Progressives and cultural Marxists. Like never before the nations are railing against God. 

I suspect we are nearing the Great Tribulation. How long I don't know but there are many indications things are moving along the lines prophesied in scriptures 

Just remember one thing. In respect of Christ alone there are over 300 prophecies most if which have been fulfilled. Indeed the only unfilfilled prophecies now relate the the period before Christ return and the aftermath of that great event. 

Be careful not to attribute to God the works of Satan. 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 21:45
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01 Aug 2019, 21:45#27

For me the biggest tell is order. Order from random chaos is near impossible...and the combined order in the universe is impossible to be blind chance. Everything is balanced to a T...no chance (edit: no chance in the way the universe came into existence) ...the elements in the periodic table, DNA, Fibonacci...the laws of thermodynamics and physics...everything fitting perfectly...with the exceptions proving the rules. Absolutely amazing...like winning the cosmic Lotto...the odds of it al being random chace is simply impossible...infinitely so.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Aug 2019, 21:57
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01 Aug 2019, 21:57#28

I don't want to live in a "pure-random-from-chaos-world", where there is no good or evil...I need a right and a wrong and a reason. Life is more interesting with "A Greater Purpose"

And the world was a better place when people still feared God...but that's probably just my bias.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Aug 2019, 07:45
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02 Aug 2019, 07:45#29

"What's wrong DA ,is the evil in this world getting to you?"

You must be one very cold hearted person if that video and description of what happened to that little girl does not upset you

Clearly it didn't with you and others on here

Noted

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Aug 2019, 07:50
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02 Aug 2019, 07:50#30

"DA...stop blaming God for the Devil's corruption"

I can blame whoever I want to...…

"if there is no God, there is no Devil and Evil does not exist and what happened is just random bad luck"

Says who?

"You can't claim that there is no God and then blame Him for the bad things that happen...."

Are you serious ??…...I am actually blaming the God that you all keep telling me to believe in, and exists...…. now what just and loving God does this to a innocent 3 year old girl...…it's sick, not bad luck .

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Aug 2019, 07:58
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02 Aug 2019, 07:58#31

 "Everything is balanced to a T...no chance"

I completely disagree

According to you, there is no luck and there is no chance.....

It's very much like these stupid idiots that say, if it is my time, it is my time

If I travel on the highway every day to work at 120km an hour, the chances of it being "My Time To Go" in the space of 6 months is certainly there.....

However, if I travel on the highway every day to work at 230km an hour, in all weather conditions...….the chances of it being "My Time To Go" reduces considerably due to my own deliberate and reckless actions elevating the chances of something fatal happening to me.

That is not bad luck

That is not chance

That is deliberate and stupid actions of my own, leading me to my death sooner than I would normally go  

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Aug 2019, 09:12
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02 Aug 2019, 09:12#32

DA, lets just say that what happened to the little girl is terrible.

I did not say there is no luck or chance, of coarse there are. I'm saying that there is too much order and consistencies in the universe for everything to be the result of random chance....and ones actions influence the odds...cause and effect (I am in agreement with everything else of your last post)...but I am derailing the thread. I'll  start another thread on the topic later.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
02 Aug 2019, 09:29
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02 Aug 2019, 09:29#33

With you on order Draad,that is how science began,following the order of what God has already created.DNA is proving to be a huge stumbling block for evolutionists,the more we understand DNA the less we hold onto freaky chance Darwinism.

If the DA wants to ride at 80km/hr in a 60km/hr zone and then knock over and kill a child ,how can he blame God?He must take responsibility and not try shift blame to God.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Aug 2019, 09:36
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02 Aug 2019, 09:36#34

100% Draad

"You can't claim that there is no God and then blame Him for the bad things that happen...."

As for this statement of yours above,

I have every single right to claim that there is no God, and then question or blame him for bad things that happen, especially if you, Beeno and others are constantly trying to convince me  that I am in fact wrong, and that God does exists, and that you are all correct.

Because I don't believe God exists, is my belief, and I don't have to prove anything about it...... how can I prove something to you, that I believe does not exist?

You on the other hand, are wanting me to start believing without a shadow of a doubt, that God does in fact exist...….. so in my mind, the onus or responsibility is on you to provide answers to these questions that I am asking, because you are the one who is constantly attempting to convince me that I am completely wrong...... you are right...….. and that God exists right now. 

Simple logic in my opinion

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Aug 2019, 09:43
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02 Aug 2019, 09:43#35

"If the DA wants to ride at 80km/hr in a 60km/hr zone and then knock over and kill a child,how can he blame God?He must take responsibility and not try shift blame to God"

Do you even know what you are saying here Moonrover…… try and actually comprehend what point I am trying to make before replying, because you are coming across as a bit dumb here.

If this God of yours was just and loving as he is made out to be, he would have made the child oversleep and be late to the road that I was even travelling on to start with.

Or, he would have given me a puncture 2km before that child even crossed the road.

Or, he would have delayed me in traffic until that child safely crossed the road

Or, because I am the guilty one, that is reckless and speeding...….he would have given me a tyre blowout, which caused me to roll my car, and possibly killed me...…….long before I even reached that child in the road.

Because of my own stupidity to speed, why does your loving God kill the child and let me live?

Do try and keep up Moonrover 

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
02 Aug 2019, 10:08
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02 Aug 2019, 10:08#36

Wow DA,you break the law and God must rectify your sin beforehand,unbelievable.

Why don't you just focus and obey the speed limit?

I have a better idea,why don't become pro-active and set your vehicle so that it cannot go over 60km/hr,thereby taking out your speedy habits.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Aug 2019, 11:01
#37
02 Aug 2019, 11:01#37

"I have every single right to claim that there is no God, and then question or blame him for bad things that happen, especially if you, Beeno and others are constantly trying to convince me  that I am in fact wrong, and that God does exists, and that you are all correct.

Really, with respect, it sounds nonsensical to me. You have every right to believe whatever you want. Either there is no God and bad things that happen is a result of chance, cause and effect, OR there is a God and bad things that happen is His fault for not preventing it from happening in the first place, but you can't logically argue both.

Because I don't believe God exists, is my belief, and I don't have to prove anything about it...... how can I prove something to you, that I believe does not exist? Fine with that logic

You on the other hand, are wanting me to start believing without a shadow of a doubt, that God does in fact exist...….. so in my mind, the onus or responsibility is on you to provide answers to these questions that I am asking, because you are the one who is constantly attempting to convince me that I am completely wrong...... you are right...….. and that God exists right now. 

I'm not "wanting" you to do or believe anything, I'm voicing an opposing view and pointing out some inconsistencies. There are no empirical evidence, but there are lot's of clues that can be looked at in a philosophical discussion. You also make some incorrect assumptions about me and my beliefs and intentions...like I said, this is not a simple matter...

Simple logic in my opinion..

..not so simple IMO. ..there are many variables to be factored into the "bigger picture"

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Aug 2019, 11:58
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02 Aug 2019, 11:58#38

"Wow DA,you break the law and God must rectify your sin beforehand,unbelievable"

Duh.....Moonrover, are genuinely this stupid and obtuse, or are you just trying extra hard at it today?

I never once said that God must rectify my sins at all, I am saying that he should protect the child from me and my reckless actions (Sins )

In other words..... punish me, hurt me, even kill me..... before my stupid, reckless, drunken, speeding actions, kill that innocent child.

Why is God killing this totally innocent child because of my reckless actions...… why not kill me before I can kill this innocent child...…….. Comprende?

Sheeesh oke…… get with the program here, or do I need to draw you a sketch and email it to you?

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Aug 2019, 12:03
#39
02 Aug 2019, 12:03#39

"OR there is a God and bad things that happen is His fault for not preventing it from happening in the first place"

I can only assume that this would be your view, because you believe in God, and bad things do happen.

Why they happen, to the best of people, including innocent people, nobody knows, but they happen

Is it by chance?

Is it fate?

Is it premeditated?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Aug 2019, 13:04
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02 Aug 2019, 13:04#40

No, it's not my view...like I said, I'll start a thread on it later.

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