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Started by Seb5 REPLIES399 VIEWS· 07 Aug 2023, 07:19
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SebPro2,680 posts
07 Aug 2023, 07:19
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07 Aug 2023, 07:19#1

Yesterday was the anniversary of Hiroshima.


The war mongers still sit in indifference, unperturbed whilst we hang in the balance of complete oblivion.


We have never really learnt, never will. We repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again, too many to count.


This beautiful peace of Beethoven's No 9 symphony falls on deaf ears, dull minds and blind eyes.





https://youtu.be/X6s6YKlTpfw?si=88AnXg8fsdCiS6QT



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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 Aug 2023, 07:29
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07 Aug 2023, 07:29#2

SebKleb, you're obviously talking about your beloved Vova, the filthy evil gobshite .

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
07 Aug 2023, 07:45
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07 Aug 2023, 07:45#3

Lovely singing from those Japs. 

Interestingly in a poll only 14% of Japs agree with the Hiroshima bombings. Depends what side you on then.

Both sides bombing civilians in Ukraine/Russia.....both would be guilty of war crimes. Even the m iss-fired missiles.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
07 Aug 2023, 07:48
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07 Aug 2023, 07:48#4

Yet he is happy for putin to threaten the world with nukes, obviously Seb is only anti nukes if it's not his side using them.

War would end tomorrow if your murderer simply gave the command to withdraw. Surely he has saved all the Russians fron the evil nazis by now, why doesn't he fuck off back home? We all know he can't  as he has trapped himself, if he turns tail now he knows he will be removed from power and his ego is to big to admit defeat in what he thought was going to be a 5 day war.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Aug 2023, 17:07
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07 Aug 2023, 17:07#5

It’s a very sad thing that the US dropped those bombs, but the political forces involved were complex. This excerpt might help:

‘ The atomic bombs not only saved many thousands and possibly millions of Japanese lives, but they also saved the lives of even more Asians beyond Japan. Under the unforgiving rule of the Imperial Japanese Army, Chinese, Southeast Asians, and Indonesians were dying at the rate of perhaps as many as 250,000 a month. Had the war dragged on, it is horrific to imagine the dystopia that would have engulfed vast areas from Manchuria to Borneo. At admittedly terrible cost, the atom bombs averted a far greater catastrophe. It is also likely that it took both atom bombs—as well as a Soviet invasion of Manchuria—to shake the Japanese military’s fanatical resolve and finally convert the emperor to the cause of peace, as well as his own self-preservation.

Possibly, one bomb was enough to persuade the emperor, but it took at least two to make the Japanese military realize that the threat of more bombs offered a face-saving excuse to surrender—a “gift from the gods.” It is even more certain that a demonstration of the atom bomb, if it was even practical, would have failed to impress the likes of Japanese War Minister Korechika Anami. Though he got a hint from the intercepted cable traffic, Stimson had no way of knowing the extent of Japanese intransigence. He may have imagined there were more “submerged liberals” than Togo and a handful of peace-minded bureaucrats. But history has proved him right that only a strong shock could make the Japanese surrender.’


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It’s a bloody business putting these military nations back in the bottle…huge suffering is the inevitable consequence. And most observers feel even more lives would have been lost if the bombs hadn’t been dropped. But that’s a convenient calculus.

When the alternative is to break a country or lose perhaps millions of your own, almost any leader will make a decision to protect his own.

The best way to stop the bloodshed is not to start. . That’s why acts like Hitler’s invasions, the attack on Kuwait and Russia’s disgraceful attack on the Ukraine need to be condemned.

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SebPro2,680 posts
07 Aug 2023, 17:54
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07 Aug 2023, 17:54#6

Truman's character was flawed...a bad dose of hegemonic fever.

He was a member of KKK in his younger days. He regarded the Japanese people as inferior and their lives were not important.

Another narcissist...he justified the bombing by dehumanising the Japanese nation. He was a revengeful man who delighted in payback. They (the Neo Cons) are doing it again not only with Russia but any nation who does not tow the line with their false indoctrination and start, coups, uprisings, death and destruction to STEAL these countries resources. Liars, hypocrites and judgement of God is now upon them.

All this fever is contagious, has never died and never will, history does repeat itself.

Many who have a bad dose of hegemonic complex rated him a good president.

 



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