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Greta Thunberg- Old Soul on young shoulders

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
28 Sept 2019, 00:50
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28 Sept 2019, 00:50#1

She has hit the international news big time. If she was telling-off the United Nations like this, what would she say about Beeno? A globalist conspiracy argument of biblical scales...


https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/20/us/greta-thunberg-profile-weir/index.html


Greta Thunberg: The teenage old soul

By Bill Weir, CNN Chief Climate Correspondent

Updated 1405 GMT (2205 HKT) September 20, 2019

New York (CNN)In person, she is tiny.

Eyes wide and head down, her discomfort with crowds and small talk make it easy to understand why Greta Thunberg says she was "an invisible girl" for most of her 16 years.But when Thunberg went to Washington -- into the lights, cameras and lack-of-action that makes up the modern congressional hearing -- the smallest and youngest person in the room came off as the oldest soul on Capitol Hill.Greta Thunberg testifies during a joint hearing in the House of Representatives this week.
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
28 Sept 2019, 01:06
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28 Sept 2019, 01:06#2


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
28 Sept 2019, 10:40
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28 Sept 2019, 10:40#3
Oh please. She is an angry child being used by the liberals and the climate change maniacs to drive their agenda. Yes, I know. Calm down. I know that I will be labelled as a climate change denier but I’m not. I am just not confirming to the woke crowd’s definition of a climate change denier. The woke crowd’s definition is anybody who does not agree with them that man, and man alone is responsible for climate change and the trillions and trillions should be thrown into research and economies should be fcuked up to achieve the agenda. The real definition of climate change denying is when you deny that climate is changing. That is not me. I know that things are changing. Im just not fooled by little Gretha and her ilk.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
28 Sept 2019, 13:53
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28 Sept 2019, 13:53#4

Would be nice to see her talk in India, China or SA...where plenty of rural people would like to have electricity.

See how they respond when she asks them to wait for twenty years while renewables catch up to the present demand. 

Hard times create good men. Good men create easy times. Easy times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. 

Lets see where this medal for competing libtard generation, living in the easiest of times, gets us.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 14:47
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28 Sept 2019, 14:47#5

Abrainwahed angry child who would not know her arse from her elbow in respect of most issues,

I am afraid I believe growth in human population remains a problem - but as to humans being able to affect the world weather - I doubt it very much.  

It is a slogan used by some politicians to limit democracy and for that reason stinks to high heaven.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Sept 2019, 16:48
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28 Sept 2019, 16:48#6
Any informed sane person knows there is no such things as made made climate change. That BS has been debunked again and again. Look at their absurd predictions. How dvd those work out!So who is the globalist/marxists left new little hero? Well read this:

What Liberal Media Did Not Tell You: Screaming Green Teen Greta Thunberg Linked to Antifa Terrorists – Recorded Song for Antifa-Supporting Org




The poor kid is in a very bad way:

On Monday 16-year-old Swedish ‘Climate Change’ activist Greta Thunberg appeared before the UN and held back tears as she angrily accused world leaders of ‘stealing her childhood.’

The Marxist Globalists stole her childhood by feeding her lies and propaganda about global warming — she believes the lies so she is now living in fear. (how about that 14 year climate change girl who has just committed suicide!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or indeed others who say whats the point of gong to school. What will these scumbags say in 12 years time!!!!)

Thunberg has a myriad of mental health issues. She is autistic, has obsessive-compulsive disorder, and suffers from Asperger syndrome and the left is pushing her out onto the world stage and exploiting her.

“This is all wrong. I shouldn’t be up here. I should be back at school on the other side of the ocean,” Thunberg told the UN representatives.

Greta is a hero of the international left.
She speaks for them. She is their voice. She lashes out at Western world but is reserved with her condemnation of China or India, the two biggest polluters in the world.

And now we know that the media is hiding young Greta’s support for the Antifa terrorist group and recorded a song for an Antifa-supporting organization.

The Swedish climate oracle, Greta Thunberg, has recorded a song together with the band The 1975. In a tweet she promises that all revenue from the recording will go to the extreme-left environmental organisation, Extinction Rebellion.

In April, the fundamentalist environmentalists caused trouble on the streets of London. Moreover, its Swedish Antifa-supporting key person was sentenced to four years in prison for the Gothenburg riots in 2001.

It all started a few days ago when Greta Thunberg wore a left-wing supporting T-shirt, which caused noise all over Sweden. Now, the alternative news site Samhällsnytt has dug a little deeper to find out more about why Greta Thunberg was posing in her T-shirt, which is a copy of the Converse All Stars logo, except from the text which says “Antifascist All Stars”.

It turns out that together with the band The 1975, Greta Thunberg is preaching the end of the world, in which she is stating that all solutions to the climate crisis have failed.

Thank goodness more an more people are speaking out against this total BS.

There are also endless examples of how the climate change freaks do not practice what they preach. You have to be a first class moron to believe all the monumental BS

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Sept 2019, 16:58
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28 Sept 2019, 16:58#7

According to moron like AL Gore Manhattan should be under water and the polar ice caps melted!

The Globalist want to use climate change to control economies and destroy Europe and the US or as it is noted Western Civilization. 

So how come the world's biggest polluters (China and India) are left free to pollute. How come these freak travel in private jests and buy mansions by the sea as do the globalist marxist celebrities.

Really just how stupid, how brain washed can you get. 

Show me where people are not buying houses by the sea. Nowhere. 


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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
29 Sept 2019, 16:25
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29 Sept 2019, 16:25#8

Why is everything always a conspiracy with the far-right happy clappies like Beeno? They will often refer to the left but do not acknowledge the existence of the whole spectrum like the centre, partial right, partial left, etc, etc. 

It is the simplistic Abrahamic/Cane & Abel good and bad way of explaining the world.  Jesus was meant to save these type of Abrahamic simpletons, but it all seems in vane...

She was talking about the environment as a whole, not just global warming. Pollution is increasing, that is certain. The kid was also talking about the state of the political environment at the moment, where it is a bit of sham. The daily updates are like an ongoing soap opera. If someone cares about the environment, suddenly there are left-wing Marxists. Barbaric Muslim stuff. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 Sept 2019, 17:05
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29 Sept 2019, 17:05#9

We need to start using that bacteria that eats plastic Shark.

I know there's an island of plastic in the Atlantic that needs sorting out.

Paper drinking straws ain't gonna cut it.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Sept 2019, 17:46
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29 Sept 2019, 17:46#10

No problem with doing all one can to stop pollution but man made climate change is a globalist HOAX. What do you think the 93 trillion Green New Deal would do to America aside from destroying the USA  completely! 

Wake up sharktwit you are asleep at the wheel and driving on the wrong side of the road like a gigantic mampara! 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Sept 2019, 17:48
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29 Sept 2019, 17:48#11

Dt Steve Turley has a video of this Greta nutjob trying to answer questions. Not reading from a  script she hasn't a clue.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
29 Sept 2019, 18:21
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29 Sept 2019, 18:21#12

I for one think it is time to assume responsibility for the mess we have and continue to follow with  plastic in general.

We have a recycle program for paper, cardboard and plastic here in my next of the woods. The recycle program includes individual municipal containers for each of the recycled items and is collected on a weekly basis.

On collection days irrespective of the location the plastic bins are overflowing whilst the other containers are almost empty.

It is virtually impossible to purchase anything that does not come with either a wrapper, container, or bottle made from plastic.

Perhaps it is time to have a rethink on what we owe our future generations and either come up with plans to educate people on methods of recycling plastic, how to shop avoiding items in or wrapped in plastic and find a better way of reusing the plastic waste.

When walking the trails here in our province it is frighting to observe the amount of plastic waste that is left behind by people and is polluting creeks, rivers and our very existence.

Time to make a move folks and have a rethink on PLASTIC.

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
04 Oct 2019, 22:10
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
05 Oct 2019, 11:20
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05 Oct 2019, 11:20#14

@AJH

"I for one think it is time to assume responsibility for the mess we have and continue to follow with  plastic in general.  "

Exactly. Agree 100%. Those are the things that we should concentrate. That is where we are making a balls up. Pumping billions into this climate change BS is not going to change a thing. 

The whole climate change thing is one of the biggest money grabbing hoaxes of our times. The simple thing - which has 100% nothing to do with conspiracies - is that there have been previous warm and cold cycles in the earth's climate and that was centuries before we had cars and factories and when the population was a fraction of what it is today. How did those happen? For some reason these "experts" always seem to dodge that question.

In the UK, they (especially Sadiq Kahnt) are forever shouting about the 40,000 air quality related deaths per year, and claims that that is a good reason to ban cars in London. The truth is that exhaust gasses are responsible for very little (less than 1% IIRC) of those deaths.

They are pissing about fracking but they ignore the damage that is caused where they mine for the lithium for the batteries of their electric cars. 

Fracking site:


Lithium mining site:



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Oct 2019, 12:02
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05 Oct 2019, 12:02#15

Not to mention the damage these "energy saving devices " and "green energy devices " does to to the environment when it needs to be discarded after use. Forget about CO2 and start worrying about plastic pollution and heavy metal poisoning. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
07 Oct 2019, 00:44
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07 Oct 2019, 00:44#16
@Ceradyne,
The picture will a large hole in the ground does not mean that it is less eco-friendly than the alternative fossil fule. The batteries are not yet recycled, but legislation will be drawn up, more inventions etc.
Is Lithium environmentally friendly?Though lithium-ion batteries help promote many sustainable actions, it's worth noting that the batteries themselves are not yet "environmental friendly." However, when compared to the alternative of using fossil fuels, lithium-batteries come out far ahead.3 Mar 2018

The Environmental Impact of Lithium-Ion - Pick My Solar


https://blog.pickmysolar.com › how-green-are-home-batteries-the-environm...
---How do lithium batteries affect the environment?The recycling of lithium-ion batteries reduces energy consumption, reduces greenhouse gas emissions, and results in considerable natural resource savings when compared to landfill.

The Environmental Impacts of Recycling Portable Lithium-Ion Batteries


https://www.sciencedirect.com › science › article › piiSearch for: How do lithium batteries affect the environment?
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Oct 2019, 06:03
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07 Oct 2019, 06:03#17

"The recycling of lithium-ion batteries reduces energy consumption,"

Damn, that's interesting, I wonder how?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Oct 2019, 06:03
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07 Oct 2019, 06:03#18

"The recycling of lithium-ion batteries reduces energy consumption,"

Damn, that's interesting, I wonder how?

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
07 Oct 2019, 09:55
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07 Oct 2019, 09:55#19

@Draad, until they can produce one hundred percent “clean” electricity, the whole green energy idea will be pie in the sky. They recently had the “achievement” of running the entire UK grid on renewable, clean, green, whatever you want to call it, energy and they were very chuffed with themselves. But it was in the middle of the summer with between 16 and 17 hours of daylight. Still a million miles away from being totally fossil fuel free energy.

How long have they been at this renewable energy drive? They have been pumping billions into it and they are demanding still more. And the liberals want even more pumped in by bullshitting everybody into their crazy twelve years to extinction theory.

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
07 Oct 2019, 11:53
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07 Oct 2019, 11:53#20
So the answer is to 1. continue using fossil fuel even though they are starting to run out...2. ignore scientific advice that lithium is already a more environmentally friendly alternative, with lots of opportunity for ongoing improvement. 
Time to start listening to scientists, who know more than local Church leaders
Not sure what liberalism to do with this. It is just showing some consideration for future generations, so they still have a planet. (God is not going to intervene, even if he does even exists). 
Science has not proven the exact effects of man's influence on the environment, but they certainly recommend showing caution. David Attenborough was another who recently warned of the possible future effects of the environment. 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
07 Oct 2019, 13:05
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07 Oct 2019, 13:05#21

" 1. continue using fossil fuel even though they are starting to run out... "

That is not exactly true. Oil production in the ME is, by the look of it declining but there are still heaps of fossil fuel reserves all over the world. That, though, does not mean that we should carry on burning it regardless. I believe that the tree huggers has got it all wrong. They should, IMO, put as much effort into "clean burning" processes of fossil fuel while they develop and improve other renewable energy sources. These so-called clean burning processes are very costly at the moment but further development and more general use will surely bring the cost down to economical levels in the same way that has happened with technology. 

Look at this, for instance:

Clean-burning fossil fuels

 By RP Siegel

 Is it possible to produce electricity from fossil fuels such as natural gas or coal, without emitting carbon dioxide?

We’ve all heard about carbon capture and sequestration (CCS), which has been demonstrated on a large scale, but it has been costly and unwieldy for full commercial implementation.

Now there is another way, thanks to Professor LS Fan and his team at Ohio State University. Fan has been working in the area of air pollution control and mitigation his entire career and is now focused intensely on the carbon dioxide problem.

Innovations to chemical looping

Fan and his team have come up with innovations to a process called chemical looping, which, while somewhat complicated, open up an entirely new path for not only producing electricity but also valuable chemicals such as hydrogen and various hydrocarbons that form the basis of many common materials. The versatility of the chemical looping technology platform, combined with the recent innovations of Fan and his team, can potentially provide cost-efficient solutions to several of the grand challenges associated with global energy consumption.

In a power generation application, chemical looping, like more conventional power generation sources, produces heat, which is then converted to electricity using turbines. However, the path used to get there is entirely different.

Traditional combustion occurs when fuel combines rapidly with oxygen from the air. With chemical looping, the oxygen is provided in the absence of air, by a metal oxide which is regenerated at the end of the process. Using chemical looping for combustion applications provides electricity along with the production of pure, sequestration-ready CO2 at a significantly lower cost than conventional CCS technologies. One surprising aspect of this looping process is the fact that there is no flame involved. Rather, metal and fuel are burned in a separate reactor without a flame, while still giving off an amount of heat comparable to burning carbon. The process is much cleaner than conventional combustion systems because in addition to CO2 capture, it can also reduce NOx emissions due to its unique reaction scheme.

......and this one

Renewable Power Exceeded Coal For The First Time in US History And None of Us Noticed

CARLY CASSELLA28 JUN 2019

This April, renewables were put to the test like never before. For the first time in United States history, clean energy sources shouldered more of the nation's electricity needs than coal.

A monthly report from the Energy Information Administration shows that renewables such as wind, solar, and hydroelectric dams provided 23 percent of the month's electricity, while coal supplied only 20 percent.

The difference boils down to roughly 8.5 million megawatt-hours less of fossil fuel-driven power. It's also the least amount of coal the US has burned in over a decade.

"2. ignore scientific advice that lithium is already a more environmentally friendly alternative, with lots of opportunity for ongoing improvement.  "

What are we going to do when Lithium, like fossil fuels, run out?

Once again. Forget that lithium is the be all and end all and stop shoving money into useless political climate change campaigns and BS and direct the money towards more viable options like advancing the production of stuff like graphene. 


"Time to start listening to scientists, who know more than local Church leaders  "

I will come back to this one last.

"Not sure what liberalism to do with this. It is just showing some consideration for future generations, so they still have a planet. (God is not going to intervene, even if he does even exists).   "

I would rather call it leftism but that is just me. It has everything to do with the lefties because they expect you to kowtow to the narrative and if you don't it automatically makes you an extreme far right racist and a bigot. I don't know they get to that but it is the reality. Consideration for future generation, my arse. It is all about money. The more they can instill fear into everybody the more money they will get for their "projects". Shyte like the Paris Agreement. 

" Science has not proven the exact effects of man's influence on the environment, but they certainly recommend showing caution.  "

Correct. It is mostly assumptions and as we all know..... assumption is the mother of all fuckups. They keep on dodging the simple question.... How did previous cycles of global warming occur when there were no cars end factories and when the population was a fraction of what it is today?

"David Attenborough was another who recently warned of the possible future effects of the environment.  "

DA had one major contribution. He made the world aware of pollution of the ocean and the danger of continued use of plastic. As far as global warming and climate change is concerned he is on the same page as the tree huggers.

Now, back to your other point:

" Time to start listening to scientists"

Exactly, which is why I referred to the investment in further research into more efficient and clean burning of fossil fuels in parallel with other energy research, instead of this new green deal BS that the leftie idiots, led by that dumb waitress from the Bronx, is trying to sell to everybody.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
07 Oct 2019, 13:07
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2019, 13:22
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07 Oct 2019, 13:22#23

SB 

T he Green Party worldwide is leftist in outlook and very much so.   They come up with crazy ideas like happened in the USA to "eat babies" to reduce the ever-expanding human population - the main cause of environmental problems.   

There is an abuse of politicos to strengthen certain ideology and there is a massive brainwashing programme on the go to support it.   This has been going on for years since the 1980's and all the projections by scientists have never materialized.   The increase in global warming has been minimal.   Believe it or not - it is a programme promoted by the more leftist politicians worldwide and is basically scaremongering.

    

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
07 Oct 2019, 14:38
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07 Oct 2019, 14:38#24
Clevermike, your BS is not worth responding to. However, a brief comment is- far-right religious wing is not capable of having a scientific debate. What is this nonsense about eating babies, utter garbage... Sounds like a local pastor trying to brain wash people, or a far right-wing tabloid. There is nothing these people will not steep to, in order to push their ideology and politics.
Even if one person that is left aligned said that eating babies is the solution, to assume that this is representative of the left is ludicrous  This sound like something someone in the ANC would say. Unfortunately, there is just no mental process happening.. . The hole in the ozone layer is proof that man can influence his environment, as are nuclear bombs like Hiroshima. A global world war could destroy all life on earth, and man cant influence his environment... sure...
Ceradyne at least puts together a logical argument and is worthy of debate. Graphene, for example, sounds like a good idea. He also acknowledges that scientists know the most about science, and therefore their viewpoints should be considered. Scientists are among the most honest and smartest people on the earth. Many of them are motivated by what they assume to be true, without even going into politics. 
Fossil fuels are finite, so continuing to explore alternative power sources is the only logical course of action. Politics removed, it is a fact that fossil fuel will run out- so to not consider alternatives is stupid (regardless of the possible impact on the environment). 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
07 Oct 2019, 15:32
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07 Oct 2019, 15:32#25

“ Scientists are among the most honest and smartest people on the earth. “

Not always and that is one of my big concerns. Some of those behind false narratives are actually scientists. They have to get the politicians in the bag to secure funding for their “research”. Remember it was actually the NOAA  who were forced to admit that they “adjusted” their findings, when they were caught exaggerating global temperatures to ensure that they secure more funding. 

Exposed: How world leaders were duped into investing billions over manipulated global warming data

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
07 Oct 2019, 16:26
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07 Oct 2019, 16:26#26

@Ceradyne, As a statistical average. (not everyone). 

Science has not proved mans effect beyond a reasonable doubt, but there are some strong arguments about global warming. Pollution is a fact, and that other life on the earth are becoming extinct, or dwindling in numbers etc.

I also agree that some of the left-wing have unrealistic goals like stopping carbon emission with immediate effect. If they were starving with no food, they would ditch the green policy very quickly. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2019, 21:30
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07 Oct 2019, 21:30#27

SB

Did I mention religion?   No - I remark on the forecast by  scientists that never materialized over the last 40 years,

I am for nature conservation and for cleanliness and definitely against plastic pollution,

However, the issue of global warming and cooling in cycles will never be influenced by humans,  The last Ice age ended about 8 000 years ago and since then the earth has slowly got warmer,  The chances are that in the next ten centuries the slow cooling will commence with the next Ice Age possible  at about 50 000 AC or so as some scientists believe.

 

        

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
08 Oct 2019, 00:59
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08 Oct 2019, 00:59#28

@Clevermike, can you provide a link to your source about Democrats saying the solution is to eat babies? I am in a good mood for a laugh. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Oct 2019, 05:32
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08 Oct 2019, 05:32#29

I saw that in a news article dealing with a recent meeting on environmental protection at a DP sponsored meeting in Nevada,   The lunatic fringe thrive in that type of meeting also addressed by Ocasio-Cortez.    

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
08 Oct 2019, 08:03
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08 Oct 2019, 08:03#30

The human race continues to grow at a incredible rate..... with no restrictions at all

The planet's resources, can only support the numbers for so long...….

Man is definitely responsible for a lot of the problems that we face today, but I just believe that the focus is in the wrong place.

I just wish that all the protestors that we have seen recently, were doing this exact same thing......but for the Rhino

There are many ways to curb the current destruction of this species, but nowhere near enough is being done by the powers that be

People need to get their priorities straight..... and plastic is certainly one of them, make no mistake...….. but so is an animal on the verge of extinction...… purely for some backward human sexual desire and supposed cure for health issues

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Oct 2019, 19:58
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08 Oct 2019, 19:58#31

Yes DA, the problem is much larger than what the talking heads are talking about...biggest of all is the population growth...completely unsustainable and probably at the root of all the other trouble. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
09 Oct 2019, 20:32
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09 Oct 2019, 20:32#32


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2019, 21:41
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09 Oct 2019, 21:41#33

Funny 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Oct 2019, 18:40
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10 Oct 2019, 18:40#34

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XaviPro1,924 posts
14 Oct 2019, 20:37
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14 Oct 2019, 20:37#35
Uh huh!
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