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Here's why a Ukrainian defeat could put an end to NATO in it's present form.

Started by Seb51 REPLIES918 VIEWS· 11 Sept 2023, 07:48
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SebPro2,680 posts
12 Sept 2023, 18:20
#41
12 Sept 2023, 18:20#41

It is obvious that people are divided by ideology and pragmatism and reality. Between theory and practice, between immaturity and maturity.

People who put God, family, friends and humility as paramount and those who value self, ego, accolades and ideals as more important. The latter often change, hopefully later in life when they find life unbearable to live in such sterile unrewarding environment. Nothing can replace our human characteristics, nor ability to love, create, feel or think. Intellectualism can never replace wisdom which is a tougher and longer course in the university of life than academic achievement.


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sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
12 Sept 2023, 18:43
#42
12 Sept 2023, 18:43#42

Ah,

1. Establish moral high ground and virtue signal through brand association to God. 
2. State my argument
3. Associate my argument with God.

4. I must be right - even if I cant prove what I am saying logically. 
God = "insert my argument" = good = right.
If God is good(true) and I believe in God(true), then my argument must be right(false).

Self delusion. Stand on your own 2 feet and make your own opinion and accept it just that.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Sept 2023, 19:19
#43
12 Sept 2023, 19:19#43

... as opposed to being an obnoxious d!ck p!$$ing on something you don't know enough about to come close to understanding.

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sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
12 Sept 2023, 19:24
#44
12 Sept 2023, 19:24#44

I understand religion better than you Draad.

Your imaginary friend has been cancelled, and with that you have lost your super power.
Now you have to face the world as an individual like the rest of us.

Your opinion is just that, not the words of a former Deity .


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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
12 Sept 2023, 20:15
#45
12 Sept 2023, 20:15#45

 Funny thing is this professor of non-religion sharkpit supports orthodox Christians. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
12 Sept 2023, 20:47
#46
12 Sept 2023, 20:47#46

Are Orthodox Christians bad?

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
12 Sept 2023, 21:34
#47
12 Sept 2023, 21:34#47
For you the Russian ones are. 
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
13 Sept 2023, 04:03
#48
13 Sept 2023, 04:03#48
Giant new Russian cathedral glorifies Putin and Stalin in mosaics

Crimea annexation also exalted in Moscow church due to open on anniversary of 1945 victory

Andrew Roth in Moscow

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/giant-new-russian-cathedral-glorifies-putin-stalin-mosaics

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Sept 2023, 04:51
#49
13 Sept 2023, 04:51#49

Blob, didn't read that, but surely it must be fake...sounds surreal...

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
13 Sept 2023, 06:07
#50
13 Sept 2023, 06:07#50

Blob, didn't read that, but surely it must be fake...sounds surreal...

The very same Christian church declared that all Russians killed defending the Motherland are cleansed of their sins & gain direct entry thru em 'pearly gates'.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
13 Sept 2023, 07:50
#51
13 Sept 2023, 07:50#51

So what, the atheist Stalin used Communistic ideas to sprout the same rhetoric. Your atheist Stalin seems merged with Putin, what do you say to that, great thinker.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
13 Sept 2023, 11:14
#52
13 Sept 2023, 11:14#52

.nope the conflict was over in weeks.

Putin has taken leaves from the liberal playbook. Liberalism has provided such meaningful tools for a resilient power exercize that even tyranies, dictatures liberalized.

Putin did as liberals do; he did not declare a war, he declared a special operation, lingo that has no legal weight. Hence just as liberals operate put the whole thing outside the domain of war.

The rule of law.

Same here, the conflict in Iraq was over as a terminology. The fighting, the killing, the destruction never ceased. But as liberals declared it a conflict and from a legal point of view, what they call a conflict was no longer, hence it was over.

Liberals redefine the world as they redefine words, that is their progress. Redressing things.

It was not a war, it was pacification. It was not a war, it was a conflict.

Romans in comparison had bellum and rebellium: a war that started it all and then wars that were the repeat of the original war. What a difference in mindset.

Putin learned from liberals. Liberals made Putin.


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