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Started by Mozart35 REPLIES2,861 VIEWS· 22 Jul 2024, 14:11
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2024, 14:11
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22 Jul 2024, 14:11#1

Watch the polls tighten. Harris wins this if she comes up with a solid VP choice and avoids major blunders. Geriatric Biden was irritable Trump’s best ally. All she has to avoid is that grin! Trump blew the momentum from the assassination attempt with his awful acceptance speech, which reminded all those who were giving him a second chance, what a silly man he is.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2024, 14:42
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22 Jul 2024, 14:42#2

Mozart

How do you know that - she is zero choice and not even certain to be the choice.   The Democrats is a cess pool and the ultra-rich funders will decide on the candidate.   The useless Harris - as thick as a brick is even a better ally for Trump because she did bugger-all for four years while VP,   

The worst thing is Biden appointed her as his Border Tsar and she did nothing about it,.   So she will be another dummy in the White House that cannot answer questions replacing it with a silly laughter .  They will wait for her nomination by the DP  and cut her to pieces  then.   

That awful acceptance speech s 100% effective  - it was only awful becauswe you and the fake mediaa said it was.  Anybody saying anything against the Dems is according to them lying and you either fell for their BS or support them. 

  

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Jul 2024, 14:44
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22 Jul 2024, 14:44#3

One of the main attack points of the Republicans and what was a genuine concern a among the American people Biden's age is suddenly no more, and has flipped to be an attack angle the Democrats can use against Trump.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2024, 14:52
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22 Jul 2024, 14:52#4

Yes….it does flip the age narrative. That was always a risk. The Republicans are now taking the angle that she ‘covered up’ Biden’s incompetence. Doubt that will work.

The sheer stupidity of Trump’s acceptance speech is already clear. Harris is hugely unpopular but if she can talk without a prompter without blundering the Dem machine will do the rest.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
22 Jul 2024, 15:25
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22 Jul 2024, 15:25#5
Democrats can certainly run campaigns with a theme - "The next generation" that is more in touch with the majority. Their top guy stood down because he knew it was time to pass the mantle to the next generation etc. 

Harris might win against Trump, the polls over the next few weeks will give a better idea.However, the Democrats might put the nail in the coffin with a more centrist candidate from the MidWest (key battleground states). 
Having a mini-primary again with just 3-5 candidates would be good to get public engagement and use surveys to determine the most electable candidate. 

Instead of campaigning against each other - they can just focus on criticising Trump and how their own policies are better than Trump. (Without criticising each other). 
Then it would be multiple people relaying the messaging against Trump. 
If Trump had picked Desantis or Hayley, he would be more able to compete than with Vance

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2024, 15:42
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22 Jul 2024, 15:42#6

Nothiing will chnge - but keep living on Cloud 9.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2024, 15:42
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22 Jul 2024, 15:42#7

Nothiing will chnge - but keep living on Cloud 9.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2024, 15:42
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22 Jul 2024, 15:42#8

Nothiing will chnge - but keep living on Cloud 9.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
22 Jul 2024, 15:43
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22 Jul 2024, 15:43#9

Harris is sure to take the Dems forward, unburdened by what has been. They won't have to let themselves be limited by other people's limited understanding of who can do what anymore. The time has now come for the Dems to do what they have been doing, and that time is every day. It is after all important for them at every moment in time, and certainly this one, to see the moment in time in which they exist in their present, and to be able to contextualize it, to see where they exist in the history, and in the moment as it relates not only to the past but the future. And venn diagrams.

Word salad above courtesy of Kamala Harris.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2024, 16:32
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22 Jul 2024, 16:32#10

I enjoy the new day,   The fact is now clear. - the Democrats love of dictatoral conduct and rush towards a doctatorship means they had to defraud the DP voters of a real choise of the candidate they wanted as their representatice  and that would definitely not have been Harris.   Real intension that they want to destroy Democracy in the USA.

Whoever takes over from Biden will change nothing and virtually be a show pony,   The real administration of the USA is done by a clique of unelected buraucrats getting their instructions from the DP funders,   

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
22 Jul 2024, 17:11
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22 Jul 2024, 17:11#11

Harris has announced her campaign theme.

Prosecutor vs Felon

LMAO!

I don't think she can win but that's a pretty good theme!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2024, 17:30
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22 Jul 2024, 17:30#12

She will have 100% of the Black vote and big chunk of the women’s’ vote. And 50% of the country despises Trump. Both parties had weak candidates…the Dems have started to correct that. The Republicans through Vance and Trump’s address have doubled down on their message. 

Harris is a horrible candidate and there is some discussion of an Obama hold out. I doubt it….the compromise will be shaped around the VP candidate.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2024, 20:42
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22 Jul 2024, 20:42#13

Really - nobody since 2 000 had 100% of the Black vote,   I read her policy objectives and they are 100% BS.    Easy to explain - on city and State level the policy she envisssaged as to prosecution rests with  the DA and State Attorneys,   In Democratic Parties States and cities  the  election expenses are covered by Soros - who wrote out the crime enhancement policy now used by the Prosecutors he funded.   

In terms of normal practice Soros's son visits the WH once a month for meetings - that is according to the WH log.   Her going  against Soros policies?   LMAO

If she wins and become President - she will be just the puppet Biden was and nothing will change in what is happening.    She will not have the authority to change anything and that is the end of it.

Anoter story doing the Rounds is that she wants Governor Whitmer of Michigan as her VP.  Superb choice - Whitmer is known as Madame Hitler.  While people could not even leave their homes and family visits bcame virtually impossible - she and her husband went on holiday in Miami toenjoyhe high life.   Typical Democrats - there is one set of laws applicable to Democrats and another one applicable to eveybody else.   

In many ways it is said that if the Democrats win in this election, there will be be no further Democratc elections in the USA - something like what Stalin did would apply.    

                    

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
23 Jul 2024, 00:04
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23 Jul 2024, 00:04#14


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jul 2024, 04:27
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23 Jul 2024, 04:27#15

The dumbest kid on the block…is there a super power that could help him….like doppie denial?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Jul 2024, 04:48
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23 Jul 2024, 04:48#16

Snark, Camilla is your king's wife...it's Kamala...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jul 2024, 08:18
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23 Jul 2024, 08:18#17

Is their anything worse than the flth on site supporting a corrupt regime in Washington?      

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Jul 2024, 10:09
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23 Jul 2024, 10:09#18

Is their anything worse than the flth on site supporting a corrupt regime in Washington?   

   Wanna have a not-so-friendly bet on the elections ........... I'll kindly offer you odds as well?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jul 2024, 12:20
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23 Jul 2024, 12:20#19

Pakie

Harris is sure to take the Dems forward, unburdened by what has been. They won't have to let themselves be limited by other people's limited understanding of who can do what anymore

You cannot b serious - she was the VP under Biden and did nothing positive in four years - so how  can she not burdened ith her part of the balls up the WH made ver he past four years.  Really funny remark.

BB      

Offer the odds and amount and I am sure to win.   The leftist media will inensify their campaign beyond imagination - but tha would not help them with the voters.   The latter have had enugh of the shit caused by the Biden Administration and his cabinet.

So name your odds and amount please.

 Mozart

You definitely are not dumb - but you are a prejudiced BSter and always will be and that shows unlimited levels of BS spreading on site. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
23 Jul 2024, 13:50
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23 Jul 2024, 13:50#20

You cannot b serious - she was the VP under Biden and did nothing positive in four years - so how  can she not burdened ith her part of the balls up the WH made ver he past four years.  Really funny remark.

That entire message of mine is composed of dumb nonsense phrases Harris has uttered, often repeatedly, since becoming VP. It's a parody.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jul 2024, 14:31
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23 Jul 2024, 14:31#21

‘Is there anything worse than the filth on the site supporting a corrupt regime in Washington’…..yep….the filth on the site that was so corrupt they could support the Nationalists and then turn around and become a member of the ANC.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jul 2024, 15:24
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23 Jul 2024, 15:24#22
Latest polls show Trump has 25 percent of the black vote. In 2016 he had 8 percent. Romney when he ran got 6 percent. The trend line is on the up for blacks voting Trump. This poll, see my post, says they each get 45 percent of the second largest population group, the Hispanics. Another huge increase for Trump. 
Trump leads Cackling K by 10 points. This is landslide territory. Further in 2016 and in 2020 the polls badly underestimated Trump's share of tbe vote. The enthusiasm of the Trump voters is off the charts. Trump has the support of over 90 percent of the voting base. The opposite is true of the demonrat voters apart from the very far left. 
Mozzietard deceit of being a Republican is over. He hates Trump and Vance and the Republican voters who threaten the Globalist order which is what he is all about. Similarly he pretends to be a Bok supporter but hates the coach and lambasts the team and players. FACT he and his sidekick DOOS were dismayed when the Boks won their second and consequetive RWC. He found no joy in the win at all as his POSTS PROVED. .Completing his fury is that Trump will end all the Globalist engineered wars. How is a guy to make a buck he whines.May the Good Lord keep and protect President Trump and JD and save America from Globalist destruction. Bless the country. Put them on the right path, return sanity and morals and the rule of law. Make America a real blessing to the World.However I do understand that Revelations 13 must come to pass. After that the destruction of the Satanic Globalists is 100 percent certain. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jul 2024, 15:42
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23 Jul 2024, 15:42#23

Great, we now have some competition for my biographer. Both Clever and HasBeen clearly want the job. But it’s a hard choice….Mike’s word salads or HasBeen’s Satan in the closet nonsense.

Please give me your vote…word salad or Satan?

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Jul 2024, 20:30
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23 Jul 2024, 20:30#24

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20240722-how-polls-rate-kamala-harris-s-chances-against-trumpHow polls rate Kamala Harris's chances against Trump

As US voters digest the news that US President Joe Biden will not seek re-election, attention is turning to the chances that his presumptive successor on the Democratic ticket, Vice President Kamala Harris, will beat Republican nominee Donald Trump in November. Although new polls have not been released since Biden’s surprise announcement on Sunday, recent surveys show Harris performs about as well as Biden in a matchup against the former president.


By: FRANCE 24 Follow | FRANCE 24

For those looking to pressure Biden to step aside in the 2024 presidential race, his showing in polls was often cited as proof that his candidacy was doomed. But a look at the numbers is inconclusive, with Biden leading Trump in some and trailing him in others, and often within the margin of error. And polls so far show that Harris does not perform statistically better than Biden in a matchup against Trump.

A July 16 Reuters/Ipsos poll showed Trump with 43 percent support and Biden at 41 percent, within the poll’s 3-point margin of error. Matched against Harris, she and Trump were tied at 44 percent.

A FiveThirtyEight aggregate of polls update on July 16 showed Biden in the lead, with a 53 percent chance of winning in November to Trump’s 46 percent.

A CBS News/YouGov poll conducted a few days later (July 16-18) put Trump ahead by 5 points, with support at 52 percent to Biden’s 47 percent (margin of error +/- 2.7 points). Trump also led against Harris by 3 points, 51 percent to 48 percent.  

Since these polls were all conducted in the days following the July 13 assassination attempt on Trump – and as the Republican National Convention was in full swing – it is unclear how much of Trump’s lead might have been due to a temporary post-shooting rise in his numbers or a GOP convention “bounce”.

And with a Harris candidacy now looking much more likely than when survey respondents were presented with a mere hypothetical, future polls are likely to see a shift – one way or the other.

Swing state uncertainty

A great irony of Biden’s presidency is that widespread support for his policies did not translate into widespread support for his candidacy. In a blind YouGov survey asking voters if they agreed with a policy, without revealing whether it came from Trump or Biden, Biden’s proposals were overwhelmingly more popular – 27 of 28 were supported by more people than opposed them, while this was true for only nine of 28 Trump policies.

As the candidate who is likely to continue down a similar path, the legacy of Biden’s policies could both help and hurt Harris’s chances.

Her job approval rating is roughly equal that of Biden, with about 38.5 percent approval for both the president and vice president, according to FiveThirtyEight averages for July 17-18.

According to a July 16-18 poll of swing states by Redfield & Wilton Strategies, Harris has a slightly better approval rating than Biden in five key states (Arizona, Florida, Nevada, North Carolina and Wisconsin). Biden’s approval is higher in Georgia and Michigan, but he and Harris are tied in Pennsylvania.

Both Democrats lead Trump by 5 points in Virginia but trail the former president by 6 points in Georgia, according to a July 17 FAU/Mainstreet poll.

A July 15-16 poll from InsiderAdvantage, which leans to the right, found Trump leading Biden by 7 points in Nevada but leading Harris by more – a full 10 points. In Arizona, Trump led Biden by 5 points and Harris by 6 (margin of error +/- 3.52 percent).  

Will demographics matter?

While both Harris and Biden enjoy the support of a majority of Black voters, an NBC News poll showed that Harris outperforms Biden with 78 percent support (Trump gets 14 percent) to Biden’s 69 percent (to 12 percent for Trump).

Trump does slightly better with White voters when up against Harris rather than Biden, leading Harris by 16 points and Biden by 14. The former president, and the Republican Party overall, relies largely on the support of White voters without a college degree and evangelical Christians.

The poll indicated a negligible difference between Harris and Biden among other demographics, including among Latino voters or when factoring in age or gender.

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Party affiliation appeared to matter considerably more than demographics, with registered Republican voters who said they were dissatisfied with Trump preferring the former president to Biden by 46 points (63 percent to 17 percent). But that number went up by 10 points when Harris was the Democratic contender, with 73 percent supporting Trump.

Harris did better among third-party voters, where Trump and Biden were virtually tied (32 percent to 31 percent). Harris garners 46 percent support to Trump’s 39 percent among this segment of the electorate in a two-person matchup.

The diversity factor

While polls show no clear advantage for Harris compared to Biden, at 59 she also does not have the perceived weaknesses of a Biden candidacy; her ascension would put to bed any age concerns at the top of the ticket. And as only the second female to run for president – and the first Jamaican-South Asian to do so – her candidacy might just galvanise the younger progressive voters on whom the Democratic Party so often depends.

But Republicans are hoping those same attributes will work against her. Right-wing pundits often baselessly disparage women or minorities in high positions as “DEI hires” – a reference to “diversity, equity and inclusion” that belittles an individual’s accomplishments by suggesting he or she was hired to fill a race or gender quota. Despite her successful career as a prosecutor (district attorney, attorney general) and then as a senator, Harris has already seen more than her share of these claims in both the media and from Trump allies.

None of the polls conducted so far can predict the enthusiasm, or lack thereof, that might characterise a Harris candidacy. She will only officially become the candidate at the Democratic National Convention (August 19-22) if she is supported by a majority of state delegates against any possible Democratic challengers. But so far things seem to be moving in Harris’s direction: six states have already pledged their delegates to her, while grassroots donations spiked in the hours after Biden’s withdrawal, bringing in $50 million and counting.  


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Jul 2024, 05:20
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24 Jul 2024, 05:20#25

Taylor Swift joins the ra ra Kamala bandwagon & its over.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jul 2024, 08:59
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24 Jul 2024, 08:59#26

BB\

Anybody who knows Zero believe the BS spouted above would believe the above BS:-

There were not only the opinion polls about the candidates - the polls that bothered the DP most was the following:-   

*    Biden's  Job approval   -   Approved  -  39  =  Disapprove -  57

*    Direction of the counry  -   Right track  -  21 =  Wrong track  -  68

The polls in the USA are done on behalf of the parties or supported by the media supporting the various parties.    There are very few polls sponsored by the Republican Party and in those cases they select participants according to a formula used by the SA pollsters that is remarkedly accurate - in the ecent eelction to polls was out by 0,08%.   The polls supporting the Democrats are based on a formula where the following formula are used per 1 000 voters polled:-

*     Registered  Democrats      =     400 

*     Registered   Republicans   =     300

*     Independents                      =     300

When the Party or media  wants a certain result the polls re manipulated by changing the formula  to 500 Democarts and 250 for each of the Republican and Independents,   The above allows for inaccuracies and manipulation hence the variation of the polls by 5%,,   What bothered the Democrats and their funders were he high disapproval rating of Biden (minus18) and direction of the country (minus 47).   

The Democrats realized that with Biden as  presidential candidate the Democrats was facing a disaster in the election and their solution was to get rid of Biden an suddenly the DP and media supporting polls  came out with polls indicating support for Biden is not going anywhere and they must get rid of Biden as candidate.and find a replacement for him.   Blame all the llls of the DP on him and get him replaced by a new face that coud be different from Biden.

Whether that would work out is debatable.  Harris was VP under Biden and the fact nothing to stop abuses of the majority of the voters disadvantaged by the DP far left socialst policies such as the open border policy and poor law and order situation and inflation - the three msot important issues troubling the voters.  To counter that the bureaucrats issued stats that inflation is down,  the collapse of law and order is down and the jobs increase helps the workers,   Most of the stats are meaningless and the voters do not believe them - 72% of the voters do not support the Biden economic policies was a disaster and 61% of the voters beleived that he failed as President, 

The result was clear - they had to get rid of Biden who pesonally was causing the disaster for the Democrats and find a new heroine they could praise to high heaven as a saviour of the USA,  Using Harris was not changing anything.   All the policies Biden suported she as VP also supported - she was no fresh face with baggage - she was in fact part of the policy failures they blame Biden for.    Thee is another problem and that in 2020 Biden was sold as a moderate that would unite the divisions in the country an turned out to be the exact opposite - he implemented  far-left policies.   The so-called mderate Harris is in fact a far-left supporter and that was proved in the past.   Her llnks to far-left groups that undermined law and order in the USA as her handling of Biden Open Border pol;cy was entrusted of her and it get worse.\

Harris conduct as VP was not a factor in policy implementation and in fact support by her a Chairperson  of the Senate showed her absolute support of Biden policies,   A large pecentage of the Democrats are centrists  - the vast majoiy of the elected representatives are leftists.   However, Bden pesonally have supportes who sincverely believe hewas a moderate ssupporting their needs - which they believe Biden did not implement .leftis po;iu = they were supporting Biden personnaly.and fell for the 2020 propaganda ord not believe anything that was blamed on him.   The question is whst are these fairly aged and traditional Democrat voters going to do when it comes to voting.   That will only be determind  by polls to be conducted  in October  and after the DP Chicago convntion - earlier polling will not give an accurate indication of  what to expect in the election.

Before the latet manufactured crisis situation Harris was even more unpopular than Biden - will media praise change that situation?   We will have to wait and see whether media  propaganda is believed by the elecorate.    One can expect crazy atatcks on the Supreme Court wh lnked their decisions on the Constitution and not the political shennanigans of he Democratic Party. will have to see whether the far-left Harris will become acceptable to the voters.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jul 2024, 20:37
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24 Jul 2024, 20:37#27

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jul 2024, 21:51
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24 Jul 2024, 21:51#28

Mozart

Seriously now - did you know that whle Harris  was State Attorney in Califonia she sent Blacks to prison for possession and smoking of cannabis toprsion ans demand they get maximum inprisonment.   When the matter was takn to court the staff at both her ffice said that release would upset the prison farming activities?   .Some Blacks called it slave usage ny Govrrnment 

It is known throughout the USA amongst Blacks and when standing as a candidat of he DP in South Carolina she got 1% of the black vote.     Also in videos ofintervied with Blacks i New York they referred to that one as well.   

I hav a feeling that with her as candidate there are going to be other problems coming to light as well or do you think he media cover-up is going to be successful?  

      

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Jul 2024, 22:53
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24 Jul 2024, 22:53#29

Ffs................... if you're not white, you're black. Right ?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jul 2024, 23:24
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24 Jul 2024, 23:24#30

No

What about the Colored aand Indianss and Cjinese flooding into the USA?    Sge has a black fter from Jamaica descended from the bihggest slave-owners in the hisotry of Jamaica.  Her mother was an Indidn also from Ja,aica amd they moved to the USA where she was borne.   Due to domestic probkns she went to live with a Cnadin couple where she as raised.

The Blacks in the USA called themselves African Americans   The arguement is that she is not an African American.  Normally Coulereds in the USA call themselves onlyAmericans.is not being  African Americans.

The prroblem is not the above - it is about Blacks be held in prison because their  labor were  needed for the prison farming activities,

Her famous rhetoric in her policy statement based on what she did in California could backfire badly on her.   Tulsi Gabbard already mentioned it on  CNN where Harris was the other guest.  

 I knew about the imprisonment program in California and mnay Blacks apparently despise her for that reason.                            ,  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jul 2024, 23:49
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24 Jul 2024, 23:49#31

Mozart

Why dd Harris stay away from he Congress meeting addressed by Netanjahu.    Is thanot sending a message to the Jewish Community in the USA?????   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jul 2024, 00:55
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25 Jul 2024, 00:55#32

No it’s sending a message to the pro Palestinian community in the USA. The Jewish community is mostly going to support the Democratic candidate.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Jul 2024, 07:10
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25 Jul 2024, 07:10#33

Mozart

Frankly  that is either wishful thinking or just plain hogwash.  Congress on a bi-partisan basis invited a USA ally Head of Government to asddress the combined sitting of the House and Senate.   So how can the  Chairperson of  the Senate refuse to attend the emeting based on election issues,   That of thing scared the shit of the  US allies  and they are seeking new securrty allies and must also be an extreme negative in Europe.   It is in fact an insult of the Head Of Government invited by Congress.   No wonder BRICS are becoming more and more attractive to ex-USA allies.   If internal politis in the USA takes precedence over  strategic issues affecting them - it is causing destruction of international relationships and further instability in the world.   The Biden Administration already caused two wars - the one in refusing to negotiate a sttlement in Ukraine and the other by unlawfully unfreezing dollar assets to allow Iran to weaponize their proxy war allies and terrorists.    Whether you believe it or not - that kisd of thing  is really happening in a world that seems to be veering to a nuclear war because of a weak US Government  with an utra-left approach to foreign countries, 

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First of all there were billins n aid provied to Hamas and the delay in arms delivery of rms to Israel that was supposed  signal to theMuslim community in the USA - this is just a further proof of Harris's far leftist ideas about politics in the USA,   

Then there was already the illegal unfreezing of dollar funds payable to Iran by Biden and the scaring off of Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States  nd now full members of the main nemies of Israel now being full members of BRICS.   n essence it sho the ttal disturbance of thae ME by weak leadership in the Mddle East,

But here is alays the other issue of her actions in California when she was State Attorney and the issue of Blacks usage in California prisons as exposed in a court case.   Wen that issue was raised on CNN by Gabbard she froze up Biden style and did not answer on that score.   he looked troubled by that exposure after using her actions as part of her future polcy in the USA..

There are other things also bothering her that will certainly be raised by delegate to delegstes at the DP Covention in Chicago and the polls did not react by her candidature at all.    I may even turn for the worst as the campaign carries on.   I listened to ehr speech in Michgan and all tha came out was word salad and even though the media went intoa frenzy about it she said nothing  of any susance of wha chnge she woudl amke to help the working class people of all races.   

I hink the Democrats are going to be in the same trouble as they were when Biden was their candidate and a debate between her and Trump would be a disaster  same as Biden's were.   The Biden policies - or better still the polices of Biden/s handlers - which impoverished 60% of th working class people are not going to help her at all.   Her record as VP under Biden is goig to be exposed as well.   As well as replacement of 92% of her staff while  she was VP also will have repercussons in debate.

It looks to me that the Demcorats managed to jumping from te frying pan nto the fire here,   People may just develop the same opposition to her than they did to Biden.

Comments about the above issue without normal personal attacks please..

        

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Jul 2024, 10:36
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25 Jul 2024, 10:36#34

Mozart

The following could also mean trouble for Haaarris as candidate:-

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black-lives-matter-says-dems-party-hypocrites-installing-harris-sans-public-voting-process

The quoted from a statement from Black lives Matter onm the election of  Harris by the Party bosses and funders and not the voters,  

I told you there were reservations about Harris I saw on TV inderviews  with Blacks - so this is bad news for the Democrats - with Black votes not forthcoming how will the DP win anything?

There are to my mind some red flags appearing about the Harris nomination and I am not sure whether there are factons in the DP that may not support her. and even the Teamsters that supported DP candidates in the past will not support her as purely a continuation of Biden policies that drove them away in the first instance.    

There is also afaction of Biden loyalists thats upported him - who still believe he is a centerrist in politics - but would not support candidates who are leftists as  President,   The Democrats should move back to the center-left position they always  espoused in the past.

Years ago I said the fact that the majority of the House members (at present  145 out of a total of 213 House members)  and a smaller percemntage in the Senate that espouses  openly far-left and socialist policies,   They are the ones that stayed loyal to Biden - but whose support  for any far-left candidate like Harris,   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Jul 2024, 16:27
#35
27 Jul 2024, 16:27#35

Still think Harris isn’t going to be supported by the party?

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 Aug 2024, 21:13
#36
07 Aug 2024, 21:13#36

Antwoord asb.

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