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Jihad Al-Shamie - Manchester synagogue attack - Out on Bail for Rape

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
03 Oct 2025, 21:23
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03 Oct 2025, 21:23#1

Jihad Al-Shamie was on police bail for an alleged rape when he carried out the Manchester synagogue attack. He was a British citizen born in Syria.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Oct 2025, 09:28
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04 Oct 2025, 09:28#2

Tip of the iceberg....of oortjies van die seekoei soos ons hier sê.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2025, 18:00
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04 Oct 2025, 18:00#3

Agree with Draad,


In the 2007 terrorist attack in London the same stuation was the case. In t he emantime the UK allowed Sharia Law to prevail in parts of cities where the Mullahs ruled the situation.


This type od situation pevailed in the USA because they had an Autopen as President - whosoever used that pen and not Bden rulled in the USA with its open border and crimeloving situation prevailing. Now that Trump took over and closed the border and start investing the criminals let into the USA by the Autopen he is accused of being a Fascist turning the country into a dictatorship by the media because he react against massive criminloigy revailing in the USA.


The UK had shit weaklings as Prime Minsiters for a decade now and the question remains - will Starmer be a strong Premier acting to protect and safeguard the people of the UK? .

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becsPro4,378 posts
05 Oct 2025, 20:14
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05 Oct 2025, 20:14#4

Starmer is the weakest of the lot.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Oct 2025, 21:50
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05 Oct 2025, 21:50#5

So who would you have as leader ,,, Nigel ?

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becsPro4,378 posts
05 Oct 2025, 22:08
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05 Oct 2025, 22:08#6

They’re all useless. But Starmer is dangerous and useless.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
05 Oct 2025, 23:25
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05 Oct 2025, 23:25#7

Starmer sounds like a Funeral Director. I heard him on the radio recently, a dull drab unmotivating voice, and then I remembered who it was.


African and Muslims countries are expected to have a population growth averaging over 100% in the next 25 years (by 2050). The country Niger, will increase by 160% in 25 years...

If things are bad now, it is going to get much worse... This means more refugees and illegal immigrants.


We either built an electric fence around Europe (lol), or the Great Replacement will be reality.

The Muslims and blacks will own the future world, a dark world.


The EU needs to change the ECHR as should the international refugee laws be changed, because countries cant deport people who should not be here.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Oct 2025, 23:59
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05 Oct 2025, 23:59#8

What is amazing is that Starmer became the strongest supporte of Trump in Europe. It seems that Starmer depends on Trump to advise him what is best for the UK and the fact is Trump and Starmer has regular telephone communication and as to what Starmer wants to implement is a carbon copy as to illegal migrants is an exact copy of what Trump is doing in the USA.



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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
06 Oct 2025, 04:25
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06 Oct 2025, 04:25#9

As the US burns its bridges across the world, Trump is making China great again.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Oct 2025, 07:49
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06 Oct 2025, 07:49#10

BB

As BS reign supreme in your batshit brain while like the Democrats becoming a criminal lover I am not suprised at the above posting. SIES.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
06 Oct 2025, 11:15
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06 Oct 2025, 11:15#11

The EU needs to change the ECHR as should the international refugee laws be changed, because countries cant deport people who should not be here.


The ECHR is not an EU convention/treaty. Nearly all of Europe is a signature to it, meaning 46 states are in it, not just the 27 of the EU. Not sure how you go about changing it but I'd imagine you need to get agreement from the other 45 signatures which I reckon would be quite challenging.


Ironically the country with the single most input and influence over the creation of the ECHR was the UK.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
06 Oct 2025, 20:30
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06 Oct 2025, 20:30#12

@Starmer, it is complicated - perhaps the courts have the most knowledge.


The issue is that a country needs to have control of its borders to enforce laws, and the ECHR is getting blamed (along with another 2 laws from the 1950s about EU refugees).


The Rwanda plan appeared to fail because of these laws.

The Democratic consensus supported immigration until the numbers got too high. Countries must be able to respond the voter bases.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
06 Oct 2025, 22:40
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06 Oct 2025, 22:40#13

The issue is that a country needs to have control of its borders to enforce laws, and the ECHR is getting blamed (along with another 2 laws from the 1950s about EU refugees).


The Rwanda plan appeared to fail because of these laws.


The Rwanda plan was ruled illegal by the ECHR but also ruled illegal by UK law, both the court of appeal and the UK Supreme Court ruled it illegal.


There was also issues with commercial airlines not wanting to run the deportation flights in fear of suffering potential reputational damage.


The British Airforce could be ordered to do it but they said they required a £20 million security upgrade of the airfield which the flights would be flown from.


You can argue the Rwanda plan even if was ridiculously expensive for the number of people it was going deport could of been an effective deterrent, but then again that plan was coming from the likes of Boris Johnson and Priti Patel, you know the people who said the UK needed to leave the EU to take back control of their borders, except it did the opposite, Brexit caused a spike in illegal immigration by taking the UK out of the Dublin convention and who was the biggest of all proponents of the failure that is Brexit, Nigel Farage


Starmer may have finally found a decent attack line on Farage, referring to the migrant boats, as Farage boats.


The Democratic consensus supported immigration until the numbers got too high. Countries must be able to respond the voter bases.


Countries are also bound by international law. Does the UK really want to be in the company of just Belarus and Russia as the only European states not being a signature to the ECHR. If the UK was outside of the ECHR would you trust the likes of Farage or others like him not to remove some of the protections the ECHR grants every citizen of the UK native born or otherwise?

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
07 Oct 2025, 01:24
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07 Oct 2025, 01:24#14

I never said leave the ECHR, I would prefer to adapt it to the demands of the current times.


If the mainstream politicians can't fix the problem, the far right will get into power and leave the EHRC and the refugee program, laws, agreements, etc, etc.

With the mainstream parties not tackling this issue, it is creating a gap for the far right




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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
07 Oct 2025, 01:42
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07 Oct 2025, 01:42#15

I never said leave the ECHR, I would prefer to adapt it to the demands of the current times.


Yeah but as I said that's something that would have to be negotiated by 46 different countries. It might be possible to get it changed but I can't imagine it would be a quick or easy thing to do.






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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Oct 2025, 11:50
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07 Oct 2025, 11:50#16

The fact is that he issue of illegal migrants has destroyed politics in Europe and led to a move to the right in political orientation - but also eh dismal economic situation in especially in the three strongest countries. So lets look at the situation in number of countries:-


Austria


Austria's election marks a significant turning point for the far right, achieving their first ever first-place finish in a national election. It is a remarkable turn of events since 2019, for a party whose longtime leader was caught soliciting illicit funds from a person they thought to be a Russian oligarch's niece. For the mainstream parties that up to this point had been the ruling parties (i.e., the ÖVP and SPÖ), the chance to form a new grand coalition is perhaps a meaningful opportunity for both parties to demonstrate their willingness and ability to cooperate productively and win back support previously lost to the FPÖ. Finally, this moment suggests that, if mainstream parties are to counter the rise of the extreme illiberal right in Europe, whether the Alternative for Germany (AfD) in Germany, the Freedom Party (PVV) in the Netherlands, or the FPÖ itself they must be both smart and quick in addressing the meaningful problems that voters for these parties face, while also delegitimizing the factually incorrect narratives those parties use to garner support.


Fact is that Kurz - a previous Chacellor of A stria regarded a far-right at the time - told Merkel that Germany buggered up the migration issue and th consequences will be a future disaster in German politis, The fact is that whenever a rig ht wing or ceter right party wins elections anywhere the left wing media calls the Party as Fascists - which in fact is BS


In the case of Austria the present Ausrian Government is floundering along and is likely not to acheve anything witha firther flood of support grrowing for the Freedom Party of Austria. According o opinion polls in Austria the situation is as follows:-


FBO Election 2024 = 30% Present 36%

OVP Election 2024 = 28% Present 20%

SPO Election 2024 = 20% Present 18%


The basic situation is groth by the Rightwing party and drop in support for the center-left Parties,


Italy


In the last election the media screamed that the Fascists has taken control in Italy - which was their normal aproach in anything. The enw Government proved to be center-right and not far-right and the opinion polls rmain static.


The funny part was a clash between the French and new Italian Government erupted when French Government objected to the Italan Government's policy to send illegal migrants to their countries of origin - the Italian Government deported them to France,


The Netherlands


In the last election the Rightwing Freedom Party with migrant policies a reason for that The ttacks on the Prty was routine - so in the end Wlders could not get support from other parties and a Technocrat was appointed as Prime Minister and the new Cabinet included members from the FPO and centrist Parties, A month ago the F reedom Party withdrew from the coalition Government because of migrant related issues. The opinio polls indicate a static situation - but a new election will be held on 29 October 2025 and it would be interesting to see what the outcome will be - as here were two terrorist attacks in the past year that may inflenmce the outcome.


France


In May 2024 EU election the support of the tightwing Naional Front scared Macron and he called a Parlaimentary election in June 2025. France is in economic chaos and the Party formed by Macron is the only Party that lost support. It sees from opinion polls that the situation remains rather static and in some circles in France evn a Civil War would be possble,


Germany


n the last german elecion the AfD - accsed of being a Fascist Pary n the Media got 20% of the vote - with

the CDU 28% Socialists getting 20% of the votes. Present indiations are that the Support are as ollows:-


AfD = 27%

CDU = 25%

Socialists = 15%


United Kingdom


In the last election Labor got a huge majority in Parliament - but in subsequent elections and by-lections labout's support fell drastically and in the latest polls the following ermerged:-


Reform Party 35%

Labor 20%

Conservatives 18%


In another Poll 65% of the Cervatve Party memebrs think that a coalition agreement should be negotiated. The working class are fiercely against the migration policies of the past and the Conservaties should drop their centrit policies and moved to the right if they want to rtain thmselves as a political Party.




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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Oct 2025, 08:17
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08 Oct 2025, 08:17#17

"In May 2024 EU election the support of the tightwing Naional Front scared Macron"


I don't blame him.


Ducks can be terrifying when you're on a punt with a Pimms in one hand, an ore in the other and a lady you're trying to impress sitting across from you.


One the ducks form a National Front, we're fucked!

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
09 Oct 2025, 03:44
#18
09 Oct 2025, 03:44#18

Ducks are best served fried.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2025, 07:00
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09 Oct 2025, 07:00#19

Dumbplum


Italy wa not ficked when teh rpesent Government took over power - even though the media claim the Government were far-right - which was BS,


So what Party being center-right are attacked in the media because they do not have policies that scared the main parties to lose support as a result being because of leftist woke culture and believe money printing of money cn limitless - the voters get poorer with the crooked politicians get richer while life became more dangerous for them,


In Germany younger people feel the fact that the culture of Germany is being destoroyed and life more dangerous, S o when attacked because theya ttack the "far Right" AfD - theyopenly said they are not to be blamed for what their great grandparents and hei grandparents did in 1930 and 1940 and all they want a better and safer life.


The Republican Party refrained from doing what Obama and Bden did to the USA - divided country by hate stoking by the leftist media,




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2025, 07:00
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09 Oct 2025, 07:00#20

Dumbplum


Italy wa not ficked when teh rpesent Government took over power - even though the media claim the Government were far-right - which was BS,


So what Party being center-right are attacked in the media because they do not have policies that scared the main parties to lose support as a result being because of leftist woke culture and believe money printing of money cn limitless - the voters get poorer with the crooked politicians get richer while life became more dangerous for them,


In Germany younger people feel the fact that the culture of Germany is being destoroyed and life more dangerous, S o when attacked because theya ttack the "far Right" AfD - theyopenly said they are not to be blamed for what their great grandparents and hei grandparents did in 1930 and 1940 and all they want a better and safer life.


The Republican Party refrined from doing what the Obama and Bden did to the USA - divided country of hate stoking by the fetist media,



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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Oct 2025, 10:51
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09 Oct 2025, 10:51#21

Quack Quack!!!


Mooooooo...

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