Joe Rogan Confronts CNN’s Sanjay Gupta About COVID Propaganda Including Ivermectin

Joe Rogan proves a truism that many people have forgotten.  Modern leftists and communist ideologues spend so much time inside their own tribal echo-chamber, they do not know what to do when confronted by intellectual arguments and truth.(Yep its what makes it so easy to wipe the floor with poor shark and rooi TWITS)

This is why media are so careful about who they will permit to appear on their broadcasts and panel discussions.  This is also why Big Tech needs to protect leftists by blocking anyone who carries an ability to challenge the fallacies.

If you have strong skills at framing your arguments; and if you are a quick thinker that is able to see the false premise as it is being narrated; you can chew up these progressive communists in real time.  They don’t talk about it, but they know that.  This is also why the White House press corps is so carefully filtered.  If you put on the armor of truth and confront pundits, spokespeople and leftist engineers with factual assertions – they stutter, stammer and stumble.

Leftists, particularly the modern progressive leftists, have no capacity for strength in debate, because they never leave their bubbles.  Everything false in their compartmentalized world view makes sense, because it is never exposed to intellectual rigor and debate.  In this excellent example, CNN’s Chief Medical Corespondent Sanjay Gupta appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast and was completely unequipped for the subtle but direct intellectual arguments and points raised.

These three video segments below are a case-study in deconstructing and confronting the fallacies of the illogical leftist mind.  Gupta went from having a high opinion of his own intellectual self, to being a puddle of moonbat mush under the microphone.  ENJOY.

? First segment.  Joe Rogan points out the fallacy of fear behind COVID {Direct Rumble Link}.  Statistics and research show unvaccinated children are not at risk of death from COVID. In fact, they are far less at risk than vaccinated adults. So why all the focus on jabbing a population that is not at risk?

Watch the three clips here. Rogan demolishes the CNN twit! Excellent!

Rogan demolishes CNN twit

We now know where SB gets his stories  from - namely CCN.  He has been warned for years they are liars and not news providers other than fake news .    Why does he never listen to good advice?      

Gupta was really put on the spot in than interview and was rather uncomfortable.

A sure sign of being caught out for not telling the truth.

But he fits in well at CNN as he has what they report....lies, lies and more lies.

Anyone that takes medical advice from Joe Rogan needs to consider seeing a psychiatrist. 
Or preferably going to be a vet and requesting to be put down. 

So, Joe Rogan knows more about Covid than a doctor? 

Why, because a doctor is part of science and therefore left-wing, so must be part of a communist conspiracy- or mark of the Beast, Illuminati etc, 
By the time Covid is over, we are going to have a lot fewer conspiracists in the world. 

CNN had a good laugh at Rogan...
They have been recommending the vaccine because the best scientific minds on the planet say the vaccine is currently the best solution available. 

So why are they deliberately lying? The same as Fauci deliberately lying about masks? They are ideology driven and sometimes the truth is an inconvenience to them...why...if you are in the right, there's no reason to lie...

Joe Rogan is a comedian and a MMA commentator, but he's got more integrity than anyone at CNN...their reaction to JR before and after the interview was cringeworthy...and you seem to think their behavior is excusable. 

Let the far right invent a vaccine that works, then we can talk further.
Until then, civilised society will laugh at them creating their own treatments out of horse dewo rmer and dog shit.

Nobody ever claimed that - Rogan challenged the doctor about disinformation spread by CNN - showing the box of pills his doctor prescribed - that was the only reference to any science ever - albeit indirect.   

Nobody claimed that anybody is the mark of the Beast or anything else you dreamed up.    Wait for it.  That hero of yours Faucci together with the  Chinese started a pandemic over which they lost control.    Now nobody claimed that Covid is going to be over - even that  Faucci BSter said that.  

The scientific minds on the planet has developed something which is grossly ineffective to fight a pandemic - it does not prevent infection of vaccinated  people, it does not present vaccinated people from spreading the virus, it does not prevent people from getting  ill and dying as a result.  If they really want to be the greatest scientific minds in the world,  they would have done much better and discover a real antidote.

I am fully vaccinated - but i do not think in another month the vaccine I received will be of any value medically.    I am NOT prepared to have further vaccination if   I have to return every three months to get "booster shots"  - it is too dangerous a practice.    Why do so many nursing staff rather walk off their jobs than being vaccinated?  Because they see in practice what is really happening in the wards where they serve.

If Trump  made on serious mistake while he was President  it was to get vaccines against Covid developed and left that in the hands of the most corrupt and incompetent regime in the history of the USA to administer.     That stemmed from listening to Faucci - when he was caught lying about his involvement in gain  of function research at the Wuhan laboratory,   

The problem is your main source of news - CNN - has become the laughing stock of the world with their lies and disinformation.     Their viewership has dropped to less than half of  Fox News,    People prefer to get news not disinformation and that is all anybody gets from CNN.

You have been told before that CNN spreads lies and disinformation   7/24  and will continue to do so.   The reports coming out now and the charges already laid iro the  Russian Hoax is going to end up with CNN and MSNBC  getting claims running into Billions of dollars for libel. and they will deserve it thoroughly - so enjoy your lying news sources  while they last and that is not going to be for much longer.        

I suppose you regard yourself as part of  the imaginary "civilized society"?   It is accepted that civilization require people with thinking ability - not brainwashed idiots like you.    

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Rogan is a lefty.

The vaccine did not prevent the death of Colin Powell from Covid 19 complications.

Why Sharktwat?

The vaccine did not prevent the death of Colin Powell from Covid 19 complications.

Why Sharktwat?

NO.

But you missed the point.

Just shows that their is no one cure that is 100%.

Got it, if not go for your shot.

SB

This brings back  the  major  concern  as to dying of people.    What is the real cause of  death of Powell  - was it cancer or was it Covid 19.    The problem is that circa 95% of all deaths blamed on Covid is where people would have morbidities that would have caused their deaths anyway - whether they were infected by Covid or not.   

Unless a study is made to see what the real death rate of Covid alone is,  the question remains - is the reaction to Covid politically used for propaganda purposes and is there  a huge  over-reaction to Covid  in the USA or in fact worldwide  to the detriment of the economic and social life of  all people?     

Then why the hell are they manipulating the information and news about Covid...there's a clear bias in reporting on these issues...why aren't more people asking why?

SB\

What you are saying above is generalized BS.    Lets take am example - fly complications per annum let to 250 000 plus deaths in the USA.    In 2020  those type of deaths were reduced to circa 38 000.   That type of data is on the CDC website  and is a glaring example of what has happened. in manipulating facts..

My younger brother had cancer and the specialist  gave him no longer than 5 months to live.   If Covid came in after 5 months  and he died 15 days before the 5 months were  up  he would have been dad anyway.   

The fact that Covid may shorten the life of people with morbidities - but they ere destined to die anyway.   To make a presumption that they would have lived for 20 years longer with their morbidities is just laughable.     That is the type of thing why the stats are doctored - especially as the number of people dying from other morbidities also show a decline.

The stats of the CDC was so bad that  they showed a reduction of deaths of about 320  0000 less in 2020   compared to the deaths in 2019.  How can that be accounted for?   

No SB - the whole thing is skewed by politics.      By the politicians  and used as a scare tactic to keep people in panic and obedient to all their mandates - will the Democratic Party elite regularly get caught out for not complying with the mandates.                    

I’m sorry to hear about your brother’s illness. There are two ways of estimating Covid deaths……direct attribution, the kind of thing you are associating with your brother….and excess deaths which are deaths above the projected trend line, usually attributed to the event that changed expectations.

Every study using varying assumptions has pin pointed significant excess deaths in the last 18 months. ….reliably associated with Covid.

Your second point about people going to die anyway is reasonable, but self correcting if Covid abates. But while it rages it reduces the life expectancy of the old and infirm, witness Colin Powell who got the best medical care

The CDC stats may be faulted for various assumptions as could any of these large statistical models. But to assume their statisticians are making the basic mistakes you accuse them of, is nonsense. Read this:

Since March 2020, about 574,000 more Americans have died than would have in a normal year, a sign of the broad devastation wrought by the coronavirus pandemic.

An analysis of mortality data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows how the pandemic is bringing with it unusual patterns of death, even higher than the official totals of deaths that have been directly linked to the virus.

Deaths nationwide were 21 percent higher than normal from March 15, 2020, to Feb. 20, 2021. Our numbers may be an undercount since recent death statistics are still being updated.

Our analysis examines deaths from all causes — not just confirmed cases of coronavirus — beginning when the virus took hold in the United States last spring. That allows comparisons that do not depend on the accuracy of cause-of-death reporting, and includes deaths related to disruptions caused by the pandemic as well as the virus itself. Epidemiologists refer to fatalities in the gap between the observed and normal numbers of deaths as “excess deaths.”

Public health researchers use such methods to measure the impact of catastrophic events when official measures of mortality are flawed.

As Covid-19 cases have spread across the country, the geographic patterns of abnormal mortality statistics have followed. Excess deaths have peaked three times, so far, as have deaths from Covid-19.

Exactly as Mozart says.
Whenever there is a new wave of Covid, excess deaths go way above the usual yearly average.
This is a scientific fact - it has nothing to do with opinion, ideology or politics. 
 
Look at the data for yourself and interpret it yourself.
Don't rely on Fox News or the far-right tabloids to do the thinking for you.

If the US had not followed lockdowns, or taken the vaccine (this year) -
deaths would be in the millions in the US - as would be the case with the EU and other places. 

So many anti-vaxx radio show hosts in the US have died from Covid. At least they were honest enough to admit they did not take the vaccine. (unlike say Tucker Carlson - who is a pretend anti-vaxxer- that takes vaccines and probably paid millions to jump the front of the eligibility list). 

S o the obvious way is to find an antidote - not an ineffective vaccine that has to be rebooted every second month.      I am vaccinated and that is  a fact - but am still confined to my house because of the virus - having been vaccinated - second shot in August  - but effectiveness would eb gone by the end of November.   

I think like any disease  ever in history - people build up natural immunity and that is totally disregarded by the Faucci crowd.   

I am not going to take a further jab anyway - since I took the jab I am developing cateracts - I had none in March now I am likely to have both eyes  operated on  in another six months time.   I never showed any signs of cataract development and was cleared in March this year - personally I think it is a side-effect of the Covid jabs.   Maybe I am wrong - but am not taking a chance  about it.

As to the death issue  there may be waves because people are more vulnerable in winter for longue -related deaths than in summer .and if that is the norm for the rest of our lives there never will be a normal ever. 

The vaccines have helped enormously…..death rates at 10% of what they would have been. They are the best medicine we have. What the virus has shown is the limits of our medical ingenuity. 

Just imagine what the world would have looked like, if no vaccine had yet been made available

I am just thinking straight off the bat about the US and India here

It would have totally overrun their national health systems.... and completely decimated the populations of these countries

Those devastating pictures that came out of India after the Delta variant hit were very sobering indeed..

India, as a country, faced the real possibility of actually running out of wood.... just from burning all those bodies around the country..... just think about that for a second.

DA

The problem in Uttar Pradesh - the most thickly populated state in India  with a population of 260 million - has according to Indian scientists been solved by the usage of ivermectin - not by the vaccines.    But the media is quiet about it.   

Please note that I am not against vaccination - but believe that enforced vaccination is wrong and based on unscientific political issues.           .   

 "but believe that enforced vaccination is wrong and based on unscientific political issues"

I actually fully agree with you on this issue with the enforced vaccination Mike.

I was never a fan of the vaccine myself, and I was not going to take it, I had already made my mind up on it.

Then various very close personal friends of mine, who I trust implicitly, that are also heavily involved in the medical field, advised me on taking it..... and that is what changed my mind for me.

That was on top of also having seen far too many people I know, lose their battle to this "simple flu"

DA

The problem I have with Covid is not the question of vacccination - my medical doctor advised me to get vaccinated and I followed his advice.   

What I have against the whole issue is the politicizing of the pandemic and the fact is there is one  major vaccine  producer  - Bill Gates  - who has Faucci and  likely also Biden in his pocket. - in other words  they are being bribed to enforce vaccines on people.   

There are less children who died from Covid - than there are ho died from suicide and murder and also from vehicle accidents. -  and  those who died had other health problems already.   Why should all children be vaccinated as vaccinated people also get infected and spread the disease.   

I sincerely believe that people who are advised by medical experts to et vaccinated should be vaccinated.    The enforced vaccination of children is an abuse of power by the Biden Maladministration .     Why should they force people to accept a vaccine that does not stop getting infected neither stop them from spreading the virus ?            

@Stupid Mike,

You are not an American, and neither do you live in America. 
Do you watch the news of the rest of the world?  Do you think Biden is responsible for the EU vaccinating kids?  (or Australia with a right-wing government) Governments of all ideologies have been promoting the vaccine, because unless someone is stupid - it is obviously the best option yet. 

You don't think, you just wait for Fox News to give you their political bias take. 
You are too blinded by ideology and politics to look at data like excess deaths to think for yourself. You are too simple, and politicising science. 
Excess deaths are facts, not opinions...  

ButtPlug, 

-let the conspiratory far-right create a vaccine, then you can comment on science. 
- let them produce data disproving vaccines that would be accepted as facts by anyone smarter than a chimpanzee

People that are part of reality understand that scientists know the most about science,
just like how mechanics know the most about cars. 
In addition, we can also see proof of a functional vaccine that reduces death rates with our own eyes. The simpletons can't distinguish between opinion and fact. 

All while you lot make DIY potjiekos out of horse treatment and dog shit thinking you know more about science than scientists- and/or immunologists.

Stop watching YouTube science amateurs, and let scientists be scientists. 

The fact is the lies  CNN  spread is taken as gospel by the idiots and spread on site.   So when they caught out lying they never admit the lie and then have to pay damages when sued for libel. 

I watch Fox News , CNN,  One America News, Newsmax, Sky News, Russia Today  and BBC.   That shows that CNN is not even a news agency because they specialize in fake news.    When they come out with something true is is purely by accident  and not intentional at all.

Fox News  has staff members who support the Democrats and they gave all parties opportunities to speak out.   They also have a Message Board   where diverse opinions are not censored.    They do not ignore the Mexican Border crisis and deals with law and order, as well as inflation and all the other disasters  caused by the Biden Administration on an objective basis.   Incidentally they never had been opposed to vaccination - but also give the issue objectively and is against mandates that  are unconstitutional.     

Anyway you are no doubt are so brainwashed that anything CNN presents is always right - while the truth is you are embarrassing yourself as a brainwashed idiot in the process.      

Nobody ignores science - but when it causes mayhem  because of politics  it is an abuse.    As for Faucci - he is a scientist  they should get rid of.    He had different stories all the time and what he says today is not what he said six months, two months and  two weeks ago.    He is definitely in the employ of   of Bill Gates and not to be relied upon.   He was part and parcel of the gain of function research  at  the Wuhan  Laboratory and lied about it in the Senate.    

He is the USA version of Dr Mengele - how the hell can he even practice as a scientist .at the age of 82.    I believe other scientists worldwide who are dealing woth Covid on a daily basis and that is what CNN try to hide from the public.    You must be feeling embarrassed when you came with the horse dewormer story - which is not science - but lies.   So keep it up - there is no way anybody can fix stupid.                    

I live in the UK, so CNN is not a news source I use very often.
The UK has a right-wing government that is part of reality, they understand the vaccine works. 

All the main media sources in the UK are pro-vaccine, from left to centre to right. 
It is only the conpiratory simpletons that think the vaccine is Bill Gates master plan, and Fauci actually works for the Chinese. Sensible right-wing people do not think like this...
It is not about ideology- it is about brains vs stupidity. 

The people you claim are anti vaxxers are not the people who generally are in fact the ones who oppose it.    Vaccine development was expedited  by Trump and passed over to the crooked and idiotic China Joe Biden.    His mandates  are political power plays  having nothing to do with science at all.    That is why Democratic leaders frequently ignored the mandates - they regard  it as being applicable to the plebs and not the Democratic Elite.       

As for Faucci - he is a scientist  they should get rid of.    He had different stories all the time and what he says today is not what he said six months, two months and  two weeks ago.  

He's the top earning government employee...pays more than POTUS...and he's neen in the same job since Reagan. ..almost like an African dictator...and he was caught out lying an BSing a few times...he might have been a scientist 25 years ago, now his probably only a crook.

"All the main media sources in the UK are pro-vaccine, from left to centre to right. "

How's it turning out for you...how many new cases today?