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LEAKED FOOTAGE: General McChrystal Claims USA Was Behind Nord Stream Pipeline Bombing plus more on who instigated this war

Started by Beeno116 REPLIES538 VIEWS· 26 Jul 2023, 20:09
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2023, 20:09
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26 Jul 2023, 20:09#1

The truth about various aspects of the proxy war is coming out all the time.

Once again the fake news globalist media is going to be caught out on major lies. Their drum beat narrative about Ukraine winning this war and Russia being a backward shambles is also a lie and will further dent whatever credibility they have.

Be assured though the frot 5 will go down with the ship. 







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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 Jul 2023, 20:18
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26 Jul 2023, 20:18#2

Was probably the Yanks...they said they won't allow it to be used at all...

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 20:22
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26 Jul 2023, 20:22#3

As he says..true Draad. We know all along it was the yanks... Nobody else.... didn't need a leak from a 4 star general to tell us. Jeepers, how many stars do they stop at?

Just found out,... there has been 2 six star generals

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Jul 2023, 21:09
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26 Jul 2023, 21:09#4

No McChrystal never claimed the US did it…he said the US benefited.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Jul 2023, 21:09
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26 Jul 2023, 21:09#5

He was so stupid he even surprised his fellow generals….to paraphrase the old English cavalry officer joke.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 21:26
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26 Jul 2023, 21:26#6

"The United States has imposed several rounds of sanctions on the Nord Stream 2 project, which links Russia with Germany, in the past few years because the United States believes the project will impact the U.S. gas industry and its geopolitical interests in the Eurasian region."

This is from a 2021 paper from Beijing on the US. 


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
26 Jul 2023, 22:47
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26 Jul 2023, 22:47#7

Explain this one to me Beeno as a Trump supporter. Trump was against Nord Stream and implemented sanctions against companies involve d in the construction of Nord Stream 2 in effect blocking it from completion.  When Biden got to power he removed the sanctions in an attempt to improve relations with US-German relations.

The reason Trump didn't want Nord Stream 2 to complete is that he and others in his administration feared that it would increase Russia's energy grip over Europe and make Europe more susceptible to Russian coercion.

So was Trump  wrong and Biden right to allow Nord Stream 2 to complete. If Trump was right then surely you think the destruction of Nord Stream is a good thing?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Jul 2023, 22:57
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26 Jul 2023, 22:57#8

Meanwhile the US cancels the Keystone pipeline worth 830000 barrels a day of tar sands crude….but they are going to blow up the Nordstrom pipeline  which produces 27.5 billion cubic meters of gas a year….per pipe….or 55 billion cubic metres in total?

Convert the 55 billion metres of gas into oil and you get 5.8 million barrels of oil per billion. Or a total of 319 million barrels of oil. 

Multiply the 830,000 barrels a day of crude foregone from the Keystone pipeline by 365 and you get 302 million barrels of oil.

So let’s get our heads around this….the greedy US venally  forgoes  302 million barrels it would have total control over….and then destroys another 319 million barrels it might have a partial  role in replacing? For money?

All the time taking  the massive risk of blowing up the European economies and seeing people dying of cold in Northern Europe.

I always thought McChrystal was stupid and irresponsible….he just proved it again.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
27 Jul 2023, 03:45
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27 Jul 2023, 03:45#9

Ole Mozart is talking about people dying from cold yet the US supplies arms that only prolong a war in Ukraine. They not exactly fighting the Commies anymore. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2023, 04:16
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27 Jul 2023, 04:16#10

No lets ggt it clear - are the  Russians providing gas to Germany and other countries using pipelines running through Ukraine and sis the Ukraine getting gas from that pipeline?    I believe that the Nord Stream bombing was done by somebody who had the knowledge about the pipeline and what equipmnt will be required to blow up the pipeline.   

Somebody blew up the pipeline and it was NOT Russia.   Putin may be a nasty character - but he is not going to blow up a pipeline of massive value to the Russian economy.    The moment the media came up with the story that Putin had the pipeline blown up it clearly was a media lie.

Unfortunately Germany has a weak and wobbly coalition Government inclusive of the warmongering Green Party and the unpopular socialist Party whose support dropped to less than 20% of the voters.   They probably knew what happened but cannot agree on whether to make the info public or not.  

America still have some honest bureaucrats who are exposing the operations of the crooks - so somebody in either the USA or in Germany will spill the beans on what happened.

Mozart - do you really believe that the Biden Administration care about what happened in Europe other than how they can make money out of the BS they are causing?     If they did - they would not have sabotaged the negotiations to find a peaceful solution to the Ukraine issue.   They had the clout to do it -but just did not do it.  

     

         

    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Jul 2023, 04:19
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27 Jul 2023, 04:19#11

Stav

Why did the Ukraine War not started while Trump was President and why did it start after the American army fled in disgrace from Afghanistan?    

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
27 Jul 2023, 04:41
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27 Jul 2023, 04:41#12

Good points Mike.

Weird those pipelines of gas still operating through Ukraine. They obviously own them and receive operating costs. 

Norway supplies a lot of Germany'gas now... Seymour Hersh mentioned they assisted the USA in Nord explosion. 

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
27 Jul 2023, 06:21
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27 Jul 2023, 06:21#13

The reason Trump didn't want Nord Stream 2 to complete is that he and others in his administration feared that it would increase Russia's energy grip over Europe and make Europe more susceptible to Russian coercion.

Donald Junior Trump is a globalist. And a supremacist.

He is a liberal.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
27 Jul 2023, 06:24
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27 Jul 2023, 06:24#14

Food for a thought experiment:

The attack was a casus belli.

Germany was attacked. Germany is a member of NATO.

Would NATO members answer the call if Germany after collecting elements declare war on the US.

Peace in a liberated world.

NATO operates on same fundamentals as a criminal gang.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
27 Jul 2023, 07:28
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27 Jul 2023, 07:28#15

Ole Mozart is talking about people dying from cold yet the US supplies arms that only prolong a war in Ukraine. 

Did you red the reports coming out that China has been supplying military equipment to Russia. China fighting the west to the last Russian. China must immediately end its military aid to Russia as its only prolonging the war!

I believe that the Nord Stream bombing was done by somebody who had the knowledge about the pipeline and what equipmnt will be required to blow up the pipeline.   

Wow there Sherlock Homles! And here was me thinking that someone had accidentally blew up the pipeline with a Scalextric set.

Why did the Ukraine War not started while Trump was President and why did it start after the American army fled in disgrace from Afghanistan?    

I dunno, maybe because he only made up his mind to attack Ukraine after those events occurred. Good luck trying to prove his decision is anyway related to those two events. 

Food for a thought experiment:

The attack was a casus belli.

Germany was attacked. Germany is a member of NATO.

Germany wasn't attacked. Russian owned infrastructure in international waters was attacked.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
27 Jul 2023, 15:58
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27 Jul 2023, 15:58#16

No. The Nordstream project is the result of a capitalization by joint venture. While Russia owns by a thin margin the majority, other owners are not protected from attacks when it happens.

Not even liberal nonsense as they usually acknowledge the situation.

Beside, contracts exist which means that an attack on the infrastructure is an attack on the country that is supposed to be served by the infrastructure.

It was a casus belli.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
28 Jul 2023, 14:53
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28 Jul 2023, 14:53#17
So one of the main proponents behind America blew up Nordsteam, journalist Seymour Hersh has rather embarrassingly exposed as a Russian shill.

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