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Low Yield Nuclear Bomb used in Ukraine = Possible Act of war against NATO

Started by sharkbok24 REPLIES1,297 VIEWS· 03 Oct 2022, 23:20
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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
03 Oct 2022, 23:20
#1
03 Oct 2022, 23:20#1

If radioactive poisoning spreads over the border into a NATO country this would be considered an act of war.

Russia's army is faltering. Putin can't pull out of Ukraine as it will be seen as a sign of weakness. 
Nuclear may be his only way to turn the war for Putin.

The new troops are not going to be enthusiastic given many are being forced to die on the front line to glorify Putin's  imperialistic goals. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2022, 01:39
#2
04 Oct 2022, 01:39#2

What a farce - the USA used bombs like that regularly in the Iraq war and Afghanistan and is NOT a nuclear bomb at all.    Your comment is just the total farce you normally produce - you obviously are so brainwashed that every bit of BS in the media you believe.    It is not a nuclear bomb at all - but a bomb with higher explosion level than normal bombs.

Russians are not Woke people like you and the fact is they are loyal to Russia and has been for centuries.    They are proud of Russia and will not betray Russia and most Russians believe that the Russian Speaking people in Ukraine has been attacked by elements in the Ukraine Government long before the invasion took place.    That is why they attacked Ukraine and not other countries s with  substantial Russian populations - like for instance the Baltic Coast countries.

                

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Oct 2022, 02:28
#3
04 Oct 2022, 02:28#3

@DumbMike,

I have not yet had a chance to dismantle a nuclear bomb and put it together - so I can't confirm the difference between a low yield and a routine nuclear bomb.

But... from what I have read, a small nuclear bomb is tactical, whereas the big ones are strategic. 
The tactical might be like 1/10th of the power. 

Can you provide your sources that the US used low-yield nuclear bombs in Iraq?
Remember your arse is not considered a credible source on this forum...
It has been fact-checked and totally debunked ages ago. 



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2022, 04:41
#4
04 Oct 2022, 04:41#4

Comrade is anti American and pro Russian like all his fellow comrades.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Oct 2022, 07:48
#5
04 Oct 2022, 07:48#5

Thank you ouMaaik, for finally coming out of the closet & declaring your wholehearted support for the war criminal Putin & his evil regime.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Oct 2022, 08:44
#6
04 Oct 2022, 08:44#6

LINK



"WASHINGTON — American tech billionaire Elon Musk drew the public ire of Ukraine’s top officials Monday after the Tesla CEO tweeted what he claimed was the most likely outcome of Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine.

“F--- off is my very diplomatic reply to you,” Ukraine’s outgoing ambassador to Germany, Andrij Melnyk, wrote in response to Musk’s tweet. “The only outcome is that now no Ukrainian will EVER buy your f…ing tesla crap. So good luck to you.”

Musk posted a Twitter poll gauging support for what he claimed was a likely outcome of the seven-month conflict. Specifically:

That the Ukrainian territory of Crimea, which Russia annexed by force in 2014, be permanently given to Russia and guaranteed a permanent water supply.

That the four regions of eastern Ukraine where Russia held sham referendums last month before illegally annexing the land be put to new referendums, this time organized by the United Nations.

That Ukraine should be forced to remain “neutral,” accomplishing the long-term Kremlin goal of barring Ukraine from joining the NATO defensive alliance.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy responded with a Twitter poll of his own.

“Which Elon Musk do you like more?” Zelenskyy asked, giving two options for an answer: “One who supports Ukraine” or “One who supports Russia.”

The sharp responses from Ukraine were all the more notable because Musk has earned quasi-folk-hero status in Ukraine since the start of the conflict.

Musk’s Starlink satellite communication system has allowed Ukrainians and the Ukrainian military to bypass internet outages that have plagued the country.

Yet the remarks from Musk are not entirely out of character for the political iconoclast and world’s richest man.

While the business interests of Tesla have traditionally aligned with the American political left, Musk has of late cultivated an antagonistic relationship with major Democratic political figures including President Joe Biden, whose administration has boosted Ukraine through weapons packages and sanctions on Moscow."

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2022, 09:22
#7
04 Oct 2022, 09:22#7

"What a farce - the USA used bombs like that regularly in the Iraq war and Afghanistan and is NOT a nuclear bomb at all.

Your comment is just the total farce you normally produce - you obviously are so brainwashed that every bit of BS in the media you believe"

You do realize Mike, that there are many instances where Russian people have called for nuclear bombs to be used in their war on Ukraine..... some even on their national TV network... so no, it is not media BS

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Oct 2022, 09:48
#8
04 Oct 2022, 09:48#8

I think Maaik was referring to this:

"The US military first deployed depleted uranium (DU) weapons in Iraq during the Gulf War in 1990 and in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Research into the health impacts of DU has been mired in debate and controversy."

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2022, 09:56
#9
04 Oct 2022, 09:56#9

It still doesn't negate what shark is saying....and why Mike thinks it is media BS

Many people think that Putin could very well resort to the nuclear tactic...

I personally doubt he would ever get it right, I think he would face too much internal opposition, but many experts around the world believe that to save his own shitty reputation, he might want to utilize that option....

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2022, 09:57
#10
04 Oct 2022, 09:57#10

I think Putin has proven already that no option is really off the table when it comes to protecting Russia's "superiority" in war

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2022, 10:18
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04 Oct 2022, 10:18#11

There is no proof of anything and the fact is the weaponry was used by the USA and is now being attacked by the fake media and the site idiots.    I want to know specifically why Russians living in Ukraine for hundreds of years asnd ended up as part of Ukraine by the Russians in an effort to neutralize reactionaries at present have no rights at all and thousands has been murdered by the Ukrainians since the illegal coup organized and funded by the USA in 2014 in Ukraine. 

Unlike site idiots I see clearly that the USA undermined peace efforts to avoid the war and is still run by crooks  enriching themselves through bribery and corruption.   The Russians are accused by the site idiots of spreading propaganda about biolabs in Ukraine - yet in the Senate a senior official admitted under oath that the biolabs exist and the present crooked regime in Wahington are worried about getting hold of the pathogens developed with US funding and assistance in the labs.

Now the nuclear bomb story developed on the same lines and I just pointed oput that similar bombs were actually used in Iraq and Afghanistan - which is a fact.   If the Russians use it in Ukraine - it is not nuclear bombs when the USA uses it, it is nuclear bombs if the Russians use it.

The people accusing me of being pro-Russians are nuts.  I condemned the Russian Invasion from day one and support a peaceful solution in Ukraine - the warmongers on site do not want peace and is inciting war based on media incitement.    Normally 100% of what is quoted above and stated are BS - so please stop being brainwashed idiots.                  

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2022, 11:13
#12
04 Oct 2022, 11:13#12

Now the nuclear bomb story developed on the same lines and I just pointed oput that similar bombs were actually used in Iraq and Afghanistan - which is a fact.   If the Russians use it in Ukraine - it is not nuclear bombs when the USA uses it, it is nuclear bombs if the Russians use it.

Rubbish Mike, you are now spinning your own story 

Shark was merely pointing out that Putin may resort to nuclear weapons to end this shitfest that he himself created..... something that many Russians have called for already..... so how is that any way construed as media BS? 

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2022, 11:17
#13
04 Oct 2022, 11:17#13

"There is no proof of anything and the fact is the weaponry was used by the USA and is now being attacked by the fake media and the site idiots.    I want to know specifically why Russians living in Ukraine for hundreds of years asnd ended up as part of Ukraine by the Russians in an effort to neutralize reactionaries at present have no rights at all and thousands has been murdered by the Ukrainians since the illegal coup organized and funded by the USA in 2014 in Ukraine."

Spinning in circles here Mike......

Stop dodging the issue

Have Russian citizens in any way discussed the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine..... yes some have, including people that are very close to Putin.

Have Russian media discussed the use of nuclear weapons against the West..... yes, very much so... multiple times...and even creating a fake nuclear explosion....

So is this media BS..... absolutely and definitely not

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2022, 11:20
#14
04 Oct 2022, 11:20#14

"Now the nuclear bomb story developed on the same lines and I just pointed oput that similar bombs were actually used in Iraq and Afghanistan - which is a fact"

Bullshit Mike, you stated that the possible use of nuclear weapons by Putin is just Shark falling for media BS.... he isn't, it has been very openly discussed all around the world, including on Russian national television...and even statements being made by people very closely aligned to Putin himself.

FFS, no wonder your credibility it totally gone on this forum

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Oct 2022, 11:45
#15
04 Oct 2022, 11:45#15

Oh Dearie me, Mikey chalks up another hit on his ever-increasing shitlist.

Unlike site idiots I see clearly that the USA undermined peace efforts to avoid the war and is still run by crooks  enriching themselves through bribery and corruption.  

It's all ol Biden's fault.

Source: Hannity @ FONEWS

FACT

Bwhahahhahhahaha


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2022, 12:30
#16
04 Oct 2022, 12:30#16

Biden played a massive role in undermining peace efforts by Macron and by Turkey and you should bear that in mind.    

What is happening in Ukraine is an embarrassment to impartial observers.   The warmongering is by the Democrats in the main - because it opens up the way for bribery and corruption in Ukraine  regarded as one of the most corrupt countries in the World.   When only 30% of the arms delivered to Ukraine as per sworn statement in the Senate under oath actually reach the Ukraine troops one wonders what happened to the other 70%,

When the Democrats and some Republicans encourage further assistance in Ukraine one  wonders why it is happening.   When it is borne in mind that the weapons came from existing - some of it being used for decades by the US Army - the question is how much money has the Armaments Industry for replacement weaponry are used for kickbacks and insider trading  attached to the Aid program to Ukra9ne ends up in the pockets of USA politicians?

Why use money for war when there are hundreds of thousands of people living on the streets in US cities and there are more than 17  million children going to bed hungry caused by inflation and corrupt money-spending in the USA,    I am in favor of peace - but that will not be possible until corruption in countries like the USA are dealt with comprehensively..       .

     

        

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Oct 2022, 12:39
#17
04 Oct 2022, 12:39#17

Correction, I should know better, it's not only Biden's fault it's the Democrats as well.

Fixed.

Source: FOXNEWS

FACT

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2022, 13:00
#18
04 Oct 2022, 13:00#18

No 

Source - Senate testimony under oath in all cases.       

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2022, 14:07
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04 Oct 2022, 14:07#19
"Why use money for war when there are hundreds of thousands of people living on the streets in US cities and there are more than 17  million children going to bed hungry caused by inflation and corrupt money-spending in the USA"
Here I agree with you.... the rest of your comments regarding nuclear weapons is bollocks
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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
04 Oct 2022, 14:45
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04 Oct 2022, 14:45#20
DbDraad

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Oct 04, 2022, 09:48

I think Maaik was referring to this:

"The US military first deployed depleted uranium (DU) weapons in Iraq during the Gulf War in 1990 and in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Research into the health impacts of DU has been mired in debate and controversy."

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I must admit I never realised that the US or/and NATO had used uranium weapons. Disappointing...That should still be classified as nuclear and should be an international crime of war.  
It defeats the whole argument against Putin using low-yield nuclear bombs if the West themselves have done this. Once you get into a conversation about the degree of nuclear power, it is meaningless- because it is either a nuclear bomb or it is not. 



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2022, 15:20
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04 Oct 2022, 15:20#21

SB

For once I agree with you - I once saw a report by scientists in which it was claimed that over a million people died of the enriched Uranium used in the  bombing side-effects - not the explosion itself.

I know for a fact also that the same kind of bomb was used when the Taliban broke the ceasefire agreement and it virtually ko;;ed everyo ne nearer than a mile from the explosion itself,             

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Oct 2022, 15:28
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04 Oct 2022, 15:28#22

"depleted uranium (DU) weapons" are nothing like "low-yield nuclear bombs"...LYNB's are still nuclear bombs with similar impact than the bombs used in Japan...DU bombs have issues, but nothing as serious as LYNB's....let's hope sanity prevails.

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becsPro4,378 posts
04 Oct 2022, 17:27
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04 Oct 2022, 17:27#23

Given that threats to nuke England have been made repeatedly by Russia, I can honestly say it is incredibly worrying. Who knows what is going through Putin’s mind these days ? 


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AJHPro3,183 posts
04 Oct 2022, 18:40
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04 Oct 2022, 18:40#24

Unfortunately desperate people tend to do desperate things.

I think Putin is facing a backlash from within his countrymen and is a very desperate man at this stage.

All bets are off the table at this stage I fear.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Oct 2022, 19:06
#25
04 Oct 2022, 19:06#25

So where are the sane voices calling all the parties to the negotiation table? Why all the deliberate escalation? Russia is the main aggressor here, but surely the other parties have played some part in getting us where we are? This has been a long time coming...it takes two to Tango...NATO is playing Russian Roulette with a madman with the largest nuke arsenal the world has ever seen, and everyone is cheering things on? WTAF?...this is way worse than the Cuban Missile Crisis but nobody seems to take things seriously enough to do something about it...

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