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Man mad Global warming BS collapsing. Stavass will not like this!

Started by Beeno113 REPLIES742 VIEWS· 05 Dec 2022, 13:48
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Dec 2022, 13:48
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05 Dec 2022, 13:48#1

I have to say credit to moz for getting it right on this matter even if he has been wrong on so much else! Also for attempting to school oor stavass not the best of pupils!

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Global warming?!



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Global Warming? Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover At 56-Year High
The COP27 climate change conference wrapped up last month. World leaders flew in private jets to Egypt to discuss how fossil fuels were quickly heating the planet to the point of no return, as humanity was doomed if crucial climate change policies weren't implemented. But while the climate alarmist leaders met in the desert, November's snowfall across the Northern Hemisphere was running at rates exceeding a half-a-century average.
NOAA and Rutgers University released new data that showed snow cover across the Northern Hemisphere reached the highest level since measurements began in 1967 and are currently above the 56-year mean.
Here's the Rutgers Global Snow Lab snow coverage map across the Northern Hemisphere.
And another from NOAA with more resolution.
"Extensive snow extent early in the season is an indicator of persistent cold as we head into winter proper," weather blog Severe Weather Europe said.
Most mainstream media outlets overlooked this data because it is an inconvenient truth for the climate change narrative they're pushing.
A severe winter for the Northern Hemisphere might complicate power grids for western countries that are hellbent on disrupting energy flows by sanctioning Russia, forcing the world into the worst energy crisis in a generation. Since the US and Europe's natural gas storage facilities have flipped into withdrawal season, the clock starts as storage levels could quickly wind down if temperatures stay below average, which would continue to boost energy prices.










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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
05 Dec 2022, 14:27
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05 Dec 2022, 14:27#2

The biggest joke remains the people thinking that world leaders and the elites can actually be arsed about "saving humanity".

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Dec 2022, 17:45
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05 Dec 2022, 17:45#3

Some world leaders like China and other communist dictatorships already have total control of the people in their countries.   The real problem is that leaders in democracies are looking for ways and means to get more control of the daily lives of their people and they use especially global warming to scare people into subservience - in other words to undermine democratic rights of people.   Global warming is an excellent way to scare people into supporting their own dictatorial ambitions.    I am now 80 year-old and the weather patterns have not changed much,    Every natural occurrence that has been in evidence for thousands of years are now suddenly the result of global warming.   

I am strongly in favor of reducing air pollution and of cleaner living by people - but people who claim global warming is the result of human activities and that mankind can control natural weather trends that has been proven to exist for millions of years must have their heads read.  

As far as I am concerned the norm "those whom the gods wish to destroy they drive mad" is applicable in this case too.     

 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Dec 2022, 19:17
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05 Dec 2022, 19:17#4
And then when the snow melts we’ll hear that the biggest meltwater event in 50 years has been caused by MMGW.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Dec 2022, 20:13
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05 Dec 2022, 20:13#5

And what you won’t read in the media is we have just had a below average hurricane season. The ACE (accumulated cyclonic energy) index is at a moderate 95 level. The highest reading for cyclonic energy…..259 in 1933. More data you won’t read in the media:


The 2022 Atlantic hurricane season draws to an official close on November 30, after generating 14 named storms, eight hurricanes, two major hurricanes, and an accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) of 95. Those numbers compare with the 1991-2020 averages for an entire season of 14.4 named storms, 7.2 hurricanes, 3.2 major hurricanes, and an ACE index of 123. Thus, the season was near-average for number of named storms and hurricanes, and below average for major hurricanes and ACE index, and it breaks an unprecedented streak of six consecutive years with an above-average ACE index (>126).


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Dec 2022, 21:04
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05 Dec 2022, 21:04#7
Let me help. In the context of the insurance industry the one destructive hurricane was a doozy. But in the context of the Global Warming debate the aggregate of hurricane activity is what counts. And in that sense 2022 was quiet.
And your point on the number of hurricanes also misses the point, the ACE measures total cyclonic energy which Climate fantasists expect to increase significantly under GW. So far the high point was 1933……..Google away.


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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
05 Dec 2022, 21:08
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05 Dec 2022, 21:08#8

It used to be about trying to convince at least 50% of people that global warming was a threat verified by the most qualified people in their respective scientific fields.

That is no longer the case. Most people see global warming as a risk, so convincing the minority is pointless. 

That aside, many people would like to see alternative energy sources created instead of giving money to the likes of Putin and the Middle East, and other authoritarian regimes.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Dec 2022, 21:52
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05 Dec 2022, 21:52#9

Whatsoever the most qualified people in their specific fields have predicted to happen over the last 50 years had not materialized and when what they predicted when their target dates has misfired they found new target dates.

If people are stupid enough to state that humans can change the natural conditions ruling weather  conditions in the world are either stupid or have queer ideas about it.   Has anything been done iro China and India the worst air polluters ever in the world carry one and they do not have idiots at their throats about it.    

It is only in the so-called democracies where the Global Warming cabal has flourished and where brainwashed people support something that has not changed in the past 200 years and is now suddenly to change in ten years time.    By then I hope the world has not cool down further in a cycle that would ultimately lead to a new ice age  - which the doomsday idiots will say t hat is happening is due to Global warming,    

That ice age is likely to reduce the world population to a  figure lower than 50 000 a figure ten times lower than what Gates is preaching about.                    

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
05 Dec 2022, 22:12
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05 Dec 2022, 22:12#10

But in the context of the Global Warming debate the aggregate of hurricane activity is what counts. And in that sense 2022 was quiet.

There is nothing to put in context when it comes to the global warming debate. A reduction in the number of hurricanes does precisely zero to contradict anthropogenic climate change.

And your point on the number of hurricanes also misses the point, the ACE measures total cyclonic energy which Climate fantasists expect to increase significantly under GW. So far the high point was 1933……..Google away.

The point is you and Beeno just made a lazy assumption that a reduction in hurricanes was evidence that undermined global warming because one of you is entirely ignorant of the scientific process while the other understands how badly it undermines his ideology he needs to constantly  act incredulous and scoff indignantly at it in lieu of any credibly counter arguments.  You even threw in a conspiracy theory that the media won't cover this for good measure. LOL except if you actually knew what your were talking about you'd realize you're making an argument that the media is covering up evidence supporting global warming.

No need to google at all. Doesn't undermine climate change in anyway and I know the reasons why and have for some time.


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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
05 Dec 2022, 22:33
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05 Dec 2022, 22:33#11

DumbMike, you are a monkey with a low IQ. Most scientists have double your IQ. They have credibility before even getting onto the topic of science. 

Fortunately, your take is the minority and not relevant to the direction that is being taken

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Dec 2022, 04:39
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06 Dec 2022, 04:39#12
The direction that is being taken is the problem. If this was an existential issue, we would be firing up nuclear plants big time. The infrastructure for the current plans simply doesn’t exist. 
All electric cars in London is a fantasy. I saw one Porsche Taycan in London last July being charged by a cable going over the pavement into a basement! 
I’m in a brand new apartment block in Florida and had the foresight to grab one of the few EV ready spots for my Tesla. Maybe 10% of the spots are EV ready…..and that’s in a new building.
What was funny though is they have built a substantial recharging station on Allegator Alley an otherwise gas free zone. You have to be able to do 60 miles without filling up, as you enter. I guess they were nervous about numbers of EVs breaking down in that stretch.

This goal represents the typical headline nature of all these initiatives and will have to be pushed way further into the future.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Dec 2022, 05:00
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06 Dec 2022, 05:00#13

Let me try again Anger. I quoted the hurricane report for the year  but only discussed ACE….a measure of total cyclonic output. You actually mentioned the number of hurricanes, possibly because that’s what warming fantasists trot out every year there is a high number of hurricanes.

So unless you want to claim that Global Warming reduces total Cyclonic activity, my point that 2022 is a counter indicator is completely valid.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Dec 2022, 07:22
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06 Dec 2022, 07:22#14

Stav

The fact is that when a hurricane struck Florida - the media and the chief idiot in the USA both claim the Hurricane was the result of and is an example of global warming.   When the highest ice level in years has struck the NH countries and the whole or Russia and Canada are totally covered by ice that is also the result of global warming.    So what catastrophe is not the result of global warming?

Will the North Pole Ice cap be gone in a decade as forecasted by the media publishing the opinion of the so-called weather experts?   According to them both New York and Miami would be under water cover as a result - the first date was by 2007 - now it is 2030.    If  one of the Chief supporters of global warming (Obama) buy seaside villas like Martha's Vineyard and in  Hawai and will others of the ultra wealthy class and the idiotic Kerry - the new chief advocate of the global warming issue - dispose of their and in Kerry's case his wife of private jets?   Will Kerry's family investments in the chief country in the world causing air pollution - Chian - be stopped.    Like all the bloody idiots preach they do not do.  For the ultra-rich and their political allies there should be one law for the plebs and another for them.  And the another shows again the hypocrisy of the ruling class and according to them the stupidity of the plebs who oppose their dreams of total control of all human being's lives.                   

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