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Marine Le Pen 'The EU Is the MAJOR CASUALTY of the Coronavirus'!!!

Started by Beeno110 REPLIES388 VIEWS· 27 Mar 2020, 11:33
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Mar 2020, 11:33
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27 Mar 2020, 11:33#1

France better elect this great patriot Marine Le Pen next time round. Then its deport all invaders etc, get the economy going by exiting what remains of the globalist EU.


The EU is imploding despite what Stavanger the globalist stooge tries to say - imagine being an irishman and wanting open borders. Old stav is far,far gone.



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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
27 Mar 2020, 15:09
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27 Mar 2020, 15:09#2

Hey that' s mean, I'm not actually that old!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Mar 2020, 15:53
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27 Mar 2020, 15:53#3

Of course you are not. 

Hope you keeping well Stav and learning a lot about the follies of globalism and the implo ding EU. 

How is your beloved open borders standing up and when are you hoping the Irish will be a minority in Ireland? 

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
27 Mar 2020, 18:42
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27 Mar 2020, 18:42#4

@Beeno1

I've been hearing stories about the imploding EU since the turn of the century, got any date on when it due to happen?

What you call open boarders (we are not in the Schegen Area, so passports are required to be shown even to EU citizens) has worked out well for us in the long run. Its one of the key factors in why our economy has done so well in the last few decades (bar the 2008 finanical crisis). Its opened up a much larger market for us to do business and trade with and dramatically cut down red tape when doing so.

When are the Irish due to be in the minority?. As it stands the foreign population in Ireland is around 10-12.5%, last year net foreign immigration was around 5,000 pe ople. Even ignoring the Covid 19 situation where there will be likely a lot less immigration this year, assuming last year immigration figures continue it will take around another 862 years for the native Irish not to be in the majority. I don't think either of us will be around to see it



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Mar 2020, 10:15
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28 Mar 2020, 10:15#5

Stav

The fact is that I do not think that anybody has a problem with the EU as a free trade area, but it has unfortunately developed  into something much more complicated than that and that is where the main problem is.

The idea of a "United States of Europe" with legislative power propagated by some members like Germany, the Benelux countries and France is not the idea where to go without the collapse of democracy in Europe.   That concept will never work as it embodied the running of the smaller countries by the bigger ones.

That has been the dream of the Socialists like Lenin, Stalin and Hitler and we all know what that resulted in.   Fact is that the greater the States are the smaller chance is for Democracy to survive.

What actually bothers a lot of people is the  utterances of many people who use the system to enhance globalism taking into account that the concept was inherited from dictators  and that the concept is advanced by a wide degree of brainwashing with the result that people do not realize the dangers to democracy the concept poses.

  

   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Mar 2020, 10:46
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28 Mar 2020, 10:46#6

Well said Mike. 

Young Stav thinks the 20 odd percent can't rapidly expand if the invaders are welcomed in is of course daft. They will also ot read the local Irish no doubt. 

Stav hopes it won't happen in his life time so thinks he can virtue signal to his hearts content. 

I have not had the time to post on all the bad news the globalists in the EU are facing. 

Young Stav is obviously a slave  of the globalist MSM and has no clue as to what is happening. 

Covering the Wuhan Virus is taking a lot of time but will try and post some info re the crumbling EU in due course.  We can't neglect young Stav's education. 

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
28 Mar 2020, 12:46
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28 Mar 2020, 12:46#7

@clevermike

We already have been over this, the EU is not a "United State of Europe" though there is people within the EU that would like to see that. It may happen one day but that's a very big may.

In the EU the larger member states like France and Germany have greater power than other member states, but seems only fair considering they have the largest populations hence they have more MEP's. But their power is far from absolute.

For example back in June last year France, Germany's and Spain's preferred candidate for the EC Presidency Frans Timmermans was blocked by the Visegrad group, a block that consisted of Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and the Cezch Republic.

Ceradyne recently posted a Daily Express article showing German farmers protesting against new environmental regulations the German government had to bring or risk massive fines from the EU.

The dream of Lenin and Stalin was a global communist revolution. Hitler's dream was a German hegemony over Europe, and eventual world conquest though he didn't expect to be around to see it.  That's not the same as globalism though. I think you and I have very different views on what globalism is. Maybe you should define what you see globalism as? Yes all 3 were terrible men and they where all Socialists but I note you left out the part were Hitler was also a nationalist.

Detractors of the EU have often called it the 4th Reich or the EUSSR but it doesn't share any similarities between the  the 3rd Reich or the USSR at all. The EU has elected representatives and elections, its member state have free press, freedom of movement, its citizens have the right to own property, it doesn't have a military or secret police, it doesn't run gulags, it doesn't invade and occupy neighboring territories, it doesn't persecute minority groups, it doesn't persecute or suppress religious groups.

@Beeno1

So no date for the collapse then Beeno, I'm going die of boredom waiting for it at this point?

Tell me who are the invaders? Is the Poles, the Brits, the Americans, the Brazilians. Are the Germans over here secretly sending U-Boats up the Shannon? Is the dastardly French who are going force us to eat snails and play plod plod rugby? Who am I suppose to be terrified of? Is it the 4 South Africans I know from work?. Or is this some cunning ploy for SA to get Marcell Coetzee back home?



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Mar 2020, 13:32
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28 Mar 2020, 13:32#8

Hahahahahahaha you are funny kid! Free press. Bwahahahahahahahahahha

No Stav the invaders are all these people from Asia, North Africa etc. Hahahahahahaha poor young Stav battles with the simplest things . You have obviously not noticed that the EU has been destroying national sovereignty. Why do you think Brexit happened lad.

The EU will be largely destroyed in about 5 years methinks. Should Salvini take italy out of the EU you can consider the EU about destroyed. The Visegrad 4 would follow - if they expel Hungary that could happen sooner than later. Le Pen may make it next elections. Macron wont. The pansy is done as is that other pansy Trudeau of the false eye lashes and open borders wrecking Canada. He has lost his majority and next time out he goes.

Everywhere populist/ nationalist forces are gaining ground.

To me there is only one thing that can stop the collapse of Globalism and i will keep that a secret a while longer.


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
28 Mar 2020, 14:12
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28 Mar 2020, 14:12#9

@Beeno

You saying the EU controls the press in every member country?

Yeah I'm battling with the concept that migrants in Ireland from Asia and North Africa has anything to do with the EU?

Quite pussy footing about it and just say muslims, we all know its what you really mean.The population of Ireland is around 4.9 million, the muslim population in Ireland was 63,500 at the last census in 2016 or around 1.4% of the population. They are not going to be in the majority anytime soon here.

Yes I've not noticed my national sovereignty being destroyed, I'm was busy taking the bus to work from my local bus station a building built on EU funding. The small bronze plaque at the station door which states this is terribly oppressing. Can you tell me specifically how Irelands sovereignty has been destroyed. The EU dictating the size of a pint of Guinness?

Yes the populist/nationalist force won the general election in Ireland last month too. Only problem from your perspective is that they populist/nationalist forces here are all quite left wing and are all largely pro-EU.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Mar 2020, 14:26
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28 Mar 2020, 14:26#10

Stav

My problem is that it could easily get to a Police state.   Why?   Lets go back in history and see how the Communists in Russia gained power?   People did not see the threat before it was too late in Russia in 1917.   The Communist ideology did not take hold with the masses of people - but the Tsarist Government collapsed because of the huge casualties in WWI and the food shortages in the cities.   The Tsarist Government was weak to start off with and effective in only a few cities like St Petersburg and Moscow.   In the rest of the country it w a kind of laissez-faire laissez passer situation.

The Tzarist Government was replaced by an even weaker Government.   The forefathers of the present globalists - the great financial institutions in the USA and England saw an opening - they funded the Communists in Russia  to establish the  Communist Regime that Governed Russia from 1917 to 1992.   They knew that the Communists did not have wide support in Russia and the Communists knew it themselves.   So they established a state of oppression not equaled anywhere in the world before.   More than 52 million people lost their lives in Russia through state oppression  and millions more through starvation.   The financial assistance  through the Gnomes of Zurich lasted until the 1980's when joint action of Reagan. Kohl and Thatcher stopped it.  In return the Communist gave the financiers preferential treatment in making huge fortunes out of trade with Russia,

The Treaty of Versailles reduced Germany to pauper state and the German economy collapsed totally in the 1920's.   The Government was weak and as a result the population got the feared treatment of a Communist takeover.   There were cities in Germany already occupied by the Communists.   It scared the General Population and the only thing the electorate could do was to elect Hindenburg as President on condition that the monarchy be re-introduced.  Knowing that England and other counties would veto the return of the monarchy under Wilhelm II so he offered the throne to his eldest son, but Wilhelm II vetoed it,  Hindenberg was in trouble because he was himself too weak to reign on his own,  Hitler saw an opening and promised Hindenberg to help him installing the monarchy and as a result he was made Chancellor and again got the support of the wealthy in the USA and the UK.  They helped to built up the Regime and only too late realized their mistake.

The Great capitalists in the USA and UK saw the way to enhance their fortunes by going globalist and they use the modern communication system to enhance Globalism promising people a wonderful government they would be part of - brainwashing is rife.   Like their peers of the past the Financial economical elite see Globalism as a World  Government being weak and exploited by them and they would in fact prefer a dictatorship on world scale similar to what their peers of previous generations when they supported the dictatorial Regimes in Germany and Russia.

There is nothing wrong in being proud of the country you have been living in and to call that as nationalism an a sin is wrong.   The Trump government is an example.   He promised to protect the interests of the working class in the USA from factories being relocated to China and other cheap labour countries leaving millions of unemployed in the USA. What was exported from the USA was technology and crucial USA  needs - like for instance medical supply provision.   For instance as much as 95% of the antibiotics used in the USA and the EU comes from China,

Like was the case in the past the Globalists is more in League with the Chinese Communists than they are with their own Government,   They favour a drastic reduction in the world population to circa 500 million stated by Bill Gates himself.

Sorry but history proved that the extreme wealthy cannot be trusted and the same remains today and in future.                                      .                                 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Mar 2020, 16:15
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28 Mar 2020, 16:15#11

Great post Mike. 

Stav seems to have no clue whatsoever of what the intentions of the EU globalists are. 

Wonder what the lad thinks of Brown and Blair calling for a world government with executive powers to deal with the Wuhan Virus. 

Doubtless the sensitive fellow won't like it being called the Wuhan Virus either. 

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