Meat Grinder. Ukraine losing 800 Men a day

Even Gl obalist propaganda machine ABC Admits Ukraine taking heavy casualties. But the money is still flowing. What an utter and total disgrace this proxy war is. 

Ukraine losing 800 Men a Day

Did you celebrate the 'news'   at this morning's church service?

...Too many lives...fuck the war!!!

Classical misinformation. HasBeen puts up an unverified claim that Ukraine is losing 800 a day….then in his first sentence he says ABC admits Ukraine is taking heavy losses…..as if ABC had said Ukraine is losing 800 a day.

It’s an obvious ploy…but it works. Straighten up and fly right.

As for your tears Draad, the aggressor should leave the country whose borders they violated, it’s as simple as that.

"As for your tears Draad, the aggressor should leave the country whose borders they violated, it’s as simple as that."

Agreed, but let's not say  the West had no hand in it at all...like the Boer War, this war should never have happened at all...farting agaiinst thunder can only take you so far...the lost lives isn't worth it.

Easiest way out is to get rid of Zelensky. 

There is no other route... the USA backed Zelensky is a little Hitler all over again. 

Well the USA has been fixated on Russia since the 2nd World War. They spend more on their army than the next ten nations yet nobody is attacking them. 

Agreed, but let's not say  the West had no hand in it at all...like the Boer War, this war should never have happened at all...farting agaiinst thunder can only take you so far...the lost lives isn't worth it.

This war is solely down to Valdimir Putin. Unless you think Russia is entitled to control eastern Europe the west can't be blamed for this war.

Well the USA has been fixated on Russia since the 2nd World War.

It's been years since the USA has been fixated on Russia. Russia where no longer important enough for the US to show much interest in until the Russian's invaded Ukraine. Their focus is on Asia-Pacific. 

"It's been years since the USA has been fixated on Russia. Russia where no longer important enough for the US to show much interest in until the Russian's invaded Ukraine. Their focus is on Asia-Pacific.' -Stav

Clueless and you're from Europe

• USAG Benelux Brussels (Belgium)
• U.S Army Garrison Benelux (Benelux, Belgium)
• U.S Bavaria Hohenfels (Hohenfels, Germany)
• U.S Army Garrison Ansbach (Ansbach, Germany)
• U.S Army Garrison Stuttgart (Stuttgart, Germany)
• U.S Army Garrison Bamberg (Bamberg, Germany)
• U.S Army Garrison Garmisch (Garmisch, Germany)
• U.S Army Garrison Wiesbaden (Wiesbaden, Germany)
• USAG Bavaria Grafenwoehr (Grafenwoehr, Germany)
• USAG Rheinland-Pfalz Kaiserslautern (Kaiserslautern, Germany)
• USAG Rheinland-Pfalx, Baulholder (Aulenbacher Str. Baumholder Germany)
• U.S Army Garrison Livorno (Tirrenia, Italy)
• U.S Army Garrison Vicenza (Vicenza, Italy)
• U.S Army Garrison Schinnen (Schinnen, Netherlands)
• Camp Bondsteel (Kosovo)

U.S Air Force

Europe

• Ankara (Turkey)
• Incirlik Air Base (Turkey)
• Izmir Air Station (Turkey)
• Aviano Air Base (Aviano, Italy)
• Kleine Brogel Air Base (Belgium)
• Ramstein AB (Ramstein, Germany)
• Spangdahlem AB (Spangdahlem, Germany)
• Geilenkirchen Nato Air Base (Neuteveren, Germany)
• Moron Ab (Moron de la Frontera, Spain)
• Raf Fairford (UK)
• Raf Alconbury (UK)
• Raf Mildenhall (UK)
• Raf Croughton (UK)
• Raf Lakenheath (UK)
• Raf Menwith Hill (Harrogate, UK)

• U.S Navy

  Europe

  • Naval Support Activity Souda Bay (Greece)
  • Naval Air Station Sigonella (Sigonella, Italy)
  • Naval Support Activity Naples (Gricignano di Aversa, Italy)
  • Naval Support Activity Naples Department Geta (Gaeta, Italy)
  • Naval Station Rota (Rota, Spain)
  • Naval Support Activity (Bahrain)
  • Naval Support Facility (Diego Garcia)

And there I was thinking those bases were all to contain Albania. Many of those bases should be closed, but the locals who live off supplying them tend to demur and the military hates to contract. 

Nonetheless Russia has long been regarded as the second threat. Its tiny economy can’t generate much…but even that gives them too much credit. The stalemate in Ukraine has proven they can’t even project power to small, neighboring countries. 

So the threat has to be a madman holding the nuclear button.  A threat Putin has shamelessly used when things are going badly in the war.

Certainly that’s a threat and the West needs to bring Russia into the family of nations, but it’s not going to happen until the Russians wise up and get rid of Putin…he is permanently tainted.

In the meantime China is the bigger issue and their imploding economy might just encourage Xi to do something dramatic to distract from internal failures.

"What you are trying to say is the easiest way out is to capitulate….it’s always the easiest way out….until the bully decides on his next target."

Ja, I know...sad sh!t, but in 50 years, who's gonna remember the bravery?...my volkie would have been much stronger now, had we not defied the might of the Poms 120 years ago ...too many lives lost...for nothing...NOTHING.

In every war over the last 160 years nations lie about casualties in war.    We will never get real information of casualties in the Ukraine War.   Ukraine never release casualty figures and that shows that means there are other evidence that can bring better info as to the War.   

So at this stage there are vastly different figures provided  by Russia and the USA.    The latter h as to protect their agenda as to funding of the war ad Mozart said they gave 500 000 Russian  casualties as against 200 000 Ukraine casualties .     If that was indeed the case then Russia obviously lost the war and would be on retreat.    A ccoring to info provided by the same source 9ie the Pentagon in about Jannuary this tear the total force Russia had in Ukraine was c irca 200 000  soldoers,   That included the Wagner Group with circa 12 000.   Is not in Ukraine anymore - so lets  leave  them out of contention - but after the Bakmut battle they ahd only 10 0000 soldiers left  and bear in mind that six month ago Russia had 450 000 in training in Russia.   The propaganda clam from the Pentagon was that the Wagner group lost 50  0000 in the battle in Bakmut.

Since early June the famous Ukraine counter-offences started.   They made zero progress in Eastern Ukraine  other than three very small abandoned villages without any residents..    The Russian army did not retreat so what was "captured - nothing at all,    Matter of fact the Russian Army made some advances towards  Kharhov an Odessa and that shows that the casualty figures provided by the Pentagon salty figures in respect was much higher than the figures provided by the Pentagon.

Irrespective of what he media said is BS - especially when the warmongering info came from the Pentagon    I must add - why the hell was this dreadful War not be stopped before the war started and why is it continuing?                                

It's become a pub-chat extravaganza....Go Ukraine!!! Kill em all!!!

Clueless and you're from Europe

LOL nice try...care to list the amount of bases the US has around the rest of the world. Clueless and you're from planet Earth.

Mozzzzquito lying once again. 

He forgets the Pentagon said Ukraine was losing 8 men for every Russian. 

Others estimate it at 1 Russian dead for every 10 Ukrainians. 

As I said Ukraine have no air defence, they are out gunned 10 to 1 regarding artillery. They are in open territory where the enemy k ows precisely where they are. They have to cross minefields and are trying with no success to penetrate well prepared Russian Defences in a suicidal manner. 

How in the world could Ukrainian looses not be far higher than Russian. 

This lying loon Mozzzzquito refuses all the evidences that US led Nato, instigated the war, scuppered peace agreements and funds and supplies the miliyary equipment to continue the war. 

Go and read the results of the polls concerning who is to blame for the war that  I postrd. The polls were held in Germany and France. 

Mozzz is as c rooked as they come. Disgusting person. 

Not half those bases in the East that you say are more than Europe. 

You need to list them to prove me wrong....but you can't.. Checkmate. 

Not half those bases in the East that you say are more than Europe. 

You need to list them to prove me wrong....but you can't.. Checkmate. 

LOL okay no problem

Mozart

Answer me a few questions - why the hell did Washington sabotaged peace negotiations before the in invasion by Russia.    What is to happen to the Russian residents whose ancestors moved their centuries before the territory became [part ofc Ukraine in 1953 and who are threatened with ethnic cleansing in Eastern Ukraine with Russian residents are already oppressed by the Kiev Government in many ways.

Russia wanted constitutional protection of the Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine and that was repeatedly insisted upon,   The USA caused the demise of the Ukraine constitution in 2014 and appointed an Interim Government in Ukraine - so are you upset that a proxy state of the USA are being  attacked?    

What is that obsession with biolabs by USA scientists using such labs for gain-of-function research - which backfired on them when covid virus somehow escaped from the Wuhan lab where USA funded and controlled the gain of function research project.    Was the alternative o do the research in their new protectorate in Ukraine?

Lastly if Russia is so weak as you claim they are why did that corrupt bastard you call your President not entering the war in Ukraine.   The danger is always there that the idiot would start WW3?

Why do you think countries that used to be close allies of the USA are abandoning the USA and trying to join BRICS.   The only reason I can think of is the Governments fear that they would also be undermined and destroyed by the Washington corrupt regime.    What do you think about it?                    

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Mike this bullduster has zero interest in the truth. His big fear is that ending the war would cause his Raytheon shares to ummet. Keep the sar going and the money flowing. It's beyond dispicable.

Mozzzzquito cannot answer the facts about who ibstigatrd the war, prevented peace being made and finances the war. It's the Globalist USA under the illigitimate Biden Regime.

Raytheon shares October 21 were $91…..Raytheon shares now are $86. Boy have I made out on my small holding in Raytheon during the Ukraine war.

Schplotttttt you brainwashed nut.

And there’s old Clever….bought the Nats, bought the ANC and he has now bought Putin. But I forgot he is an Afrikaner interlektual (sic).

Listen Mozart

I asked  you some questions and deserve an answer - but all you could find in return are pesonal attacks,    Can you not see what is happen is personal insults.   Can't the idiots in charge not keep themselves from v bragging about their achievements.- Biden about how he forced the Ukraine Government to fire the prosecutor who were investigating Burisma - a Ukraine comapny on which Board Hunter Biden served.   It now transpired Biden himself and Hunter was each paid $5 milion for that little service to Burisma.   Nuland bragged on how Biden and she  and picked the new Cabinet in Ukraine after the 2014 coup.   Somebody should tell your new hero he is a liar on the Burisma issue and tell Nuland  how she and Biden picked the leadership to take over from  fucked up Ukraine.

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We have answered all those dumb questions before….but answer this, why did you join the ANC?

Simple Answer dimness - I was involved and managed major upgrading and replacing  of slum settlements wit formal housing and provision of services to the poor and had to get money from the ANC Government for the purpose.    

I am not the kind of liberal you admire so much in the USA where more than a million people live in tents on sidewalks in US cities and are provided with drugs to kill themselves off quickly by a Government more interested to kill them off than to help uplifting them.   The smuggling  o drugs by the Mexican cartels into the USA  by your hero's open border policy kills an estimated 150 000 people a year. 

The following is the most stupid statement I have seen for years on site:-

"Certainly that’s a threat and the West needs to bring Russia into the family of nations, but it’s not going to happen until the Russians wise up and get rid of Putin…he is permanently tainted."

So Russia can be brought into alliance with the USA if the country is governed by a dictatorial  Government installed by the USA - like they did in Ukraine.    So let the country become a proxy state totally controlled by Washington and major US companies exploited by the ultra-rich like t he U S  Government is at present will  Russia be acceptable by the USA.    Exploit the natural resources of Russia and the Russian people and their language and culture and when the Russian people  become slaves in their own country like the poor in the USA is?   Amazing  statement coming from a brainwashed political idiot.   

On the contrary the good name of the U S Government in the World has been destroyed and opinion polls and election results in EU countries indicate that the idea supported by you is falling flat.    The majority of people in Europe still believe in DEMOCRACY - a destruction of  Democracy by the present corrupt rogue regime in Washington is increasingly rejected  by the voters in those countries.   

In the USA the situation is also changing.    People are increasingly refuse to support the pumping of billions into the Ukraine to sustain a proxy war - while the interests of ordinary people in the USA are neglected.    CNN sent reporters into the industrial heartland of the USA and to their horror found that ordinary people reject the present warmongering Government in Washington.

What is evident from your remark is that the Ultra-Rich think they can benefit from starting WW3 - even if it has nuclear implications.    The ideals of Gates and his fellow rich that the world population could be reduced by 90% could be realized by such a war.    

While the USA in fact was a D EMOCRACY setting an example of how Government should be for the people by the people it is now totally controlled by the Ultra-Rich in the USA using the  media controlled by them to brainwash idiots to support their ideas and using the Justice system and the FBI - similar to dictatorial countries worldwide - to undermine opposition to the corrupt Biden regime.

My short answer is simple - I oppose corruption in political parties worldwide and see through what is happening at present in the USA.     Maybe the next election will restore Democracy in the USA.

Now back to the Ukraine.   The USA engineered the unconstitutional  Government - appointed a new Government in Ukraine ad since then controlled that Government by threatening  Ukraine  to withhold US Grant Funding to that country if they disobey the Washington regime..   End of story.

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Ou Maaik, the word "duplicate" implies that you posted your tripe twice. 

You actually posted it 6 times so only the second time was actually a duplicate. After that it was "triplicate", then "quadruplicate", then "quintuplicate" and finally "sextuplicate".

Get it right, dumbo.

I also believe your propganda posts that you cannot proof is BS.

Ever heard of the anti-Russian campaign dealing with lies concocted by the Democratic Party about Trump and Putin collusion in the 2016 election.   Ever heard of the 2014 Coup engineered by the Obama Administration aimed directly at Russia.especially.    This propaganda started though lies and deception and has been ongoing since 2000 and even before.   When the US Government fucked up royally the blame was always put on Russia.

After being bribed by the Chinese the Obama and Biden Adinistration kow-towed to the Chinese and countries like Iran and they did not regard them as enemies.    Biden sent Blinken and Kerry to China and the Chinese told them to bugger off - but in effect the Biden did thus far nothing against China and they wont't do anything in future either.                  

Many of those bases should be closed, but the locals who live off supplying them tend to demur and the military hates to contract.

Excellent.

Who dares wins.

It's been years since the USA has been fixated on Russia. Russia where no longer important enough for the US to show much interest in until the Russian's invaded Ukraine. Their focus is on Asia-Pacific.

NATO strategic means have been moved relentlessly eastwards.

And the US have been desiring to enlist Russia in the besieging of China.

NATO strategic means have been moved relentlessly eastwards.

Think you need to look up the definition of relentlessly. Ukraine and Georgia where vetoed from joining NATO back in 2008.

And. Does not mean the push eastwards has not happened.