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Moz & Rooi --> About those vases

Started by Plum11 REPLIES609 VIEWS· 03 Nov 2023, 09:12
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Nov 2023, 09:12
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03 Nov 2023, 09:12#1

An update on the vase, now vases.

They've scanned more granite vases from Egypt.


In this piece, recently out, Ben documents hands-on testing by engineers on some of the vases.


The video is a bit lengthy but also entirely worth a watch.


Allow me to entice you...



Here's the video...






PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Nov 2023, 07:19
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04 Nov 2023, 07:19#2
Bump
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2023, 20:29
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04 Nov 2023, 20:29#3

Apologies Plum, I have just shifted to Florida for the winter months. You can’t play golf when there’s snow on the ground! Things are a bit hectic but I’ll try to get to the video next week.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Nov 2023, 12:37
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05 Nov 2023, 12:37#4
All good, Moz. Enjoy the warmer weather and watch out for the gators on the greens
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Nov 2023, 15:08
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05 Nov 2023, 15:08#5

Watched most of it while watching India bat….how you can have wall thickness varying by 2/thousandth’s  of an inch in a stone material is inexplicable. In a way more impressive than the design being based entirely on mathematical formulae.

I have to confess as entertainment, perhaps a car chase could have been introduced, but as a bit of research it’s fascinating. In a way it comes across best when the scientists uses the micrometer on the lip…variations of a 1/1000. 

The fact that not all are as precise actually actually adds a bit of credibility.

That said, over a few thousand years wouldn’t there be some erosion that would offset the original precision? 

His explanation of inheritance from an even earlier time is a bit unsatisfactory…..leaving lots of questions. I suppose one thing that should be considered is faking of an old vase….using an antique and then subjecting it to computer machining. 

The immediate rebuttal is the mathematical relationships that have to have been designed into the piece from the off.

Puzzling to say the least. Keep us updated as you learn more.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Nov 2023, 20:08
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05 Nov 2023, 20:08#6
I thought your like it, Moz. Ben is quickly becoming my favourite Ozzie.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Nov 2023, 07:27
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07 Nov 2023, 07:27#7
...Rooi I'm waiting for you to explain what's here using the "many slaves and much time" hypothesis.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
07 Nov 2023, 08:18
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07 Nov 2023, 08:18#8

Don't forget cruelty. Lots of slaves, lots of time and lots of cruelty.

What's your explanation? Atlantis? An advanced civilization? Aliens?

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Nov 2023, 08:54
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07 Nov 2023, 08:54#9
No, humans...and probably science/methods we haven't discovered yet. What are your thoughts, Rooi? I mean clearly masses of slaves, time, and cruelty, don't create extreme precision. I don't know much about Atlantis, other than it was supposed to be an Advanced city that was destroyed by a cataclysm. There was a cataclysm 12,000 years ago, that much is indisputable at this point. And then objects like these vases provide evidence of advancement far beyond what we imagined was possible thousands of years ago and have only been able to replicate for less than the last 100 years. To put it into perspective, we cannot create those levels of precision today without the use of computer guided manchining. Doesn't that bring the idea of a place like Atlantis, or something similar, closer to reality? I mean, the current idea of how this stuff was made is that people sculpted the objects using copper chisels. Then you might say they didn't use chisels...they used some kind of primitive turning. The problem there being that the wear on a turning machine built from wood, or any soft metal, would almost instantly cause deviations far, like very far, outside of those on display in the video above. Consider that when you build a lathe or measuring device...the precision going into the building of it has to be greater than the precision of the objects you hope to create with it. Meaning, whatever was used to create these vases...that machine had to be precisely built to within thousands of a millimetre. Crazy, no?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Nov 2023, 13:11
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07 Nov 2023, 13:11#10

efore the start of the last Ice Age circa 40 000 years ago there must have been some really advanced civi;lizations on earth - probably also responsible fr the construction of the three pyramids. that survived to modedrn times.   

The last Ice age endxed aboiut 12 000 years ago and the enxt one my start  with declining temperatures in the not too distant future.    That is why the first survival of civilization started in eg China and only reach  Europe about 6 000 years ago.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Nov 2023, 14:35
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07 Nov 2023, 14:35#11

Gosh Mike I thought the Saaimans were farming in South Africa 40,000 years ago.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Nov 2023, 19:41
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23 Nov 2023, 19:41#12

 

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