Mozart - Everything you write on site as to Ukraine is based on lies and falsification of documentation

Mozart

You wrote the following on site trying to correct what I wrote about the support of funding  by the USA  voters for the Ukraine War:-

:No the majority of voters don’t oppose further support to the Ukraine:

Nearly two-thirds of voters say supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia is in the national interest of the United States, a new poll found.

Sixty-five percent of voters in a Quinnipiac pollreleased Tuesday think the U.S. supporting Ukraine is in the county’s national interest. Twenty-eight percent do not think it is in the national interest of the U.S.

I then refer you to look at fundings of CNN  after a poll indicate that the American Voters oppose fcurther funding  of the Ukraine War and came up with a different Poll where the Gallop Poll findings are totally different.  

Read the following article idiot and then apologize:-

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html

CNN was horrified about the findings of the polls and organized a number of Town H all meetings to find out what the situation is amongst middle class voters on the issue and shocked to find that rejection of further funding to Ukraine is over 80% of the voters attendfing the meetings.

US opinion polls often are based on specific findings they want to prove.  The voters are  selected for that purpose.   Normal with most opinion polls they want to publish are based on specially selected voters:-

Normal witjh lefctist media polls is to select participants on the following basis:    

Registered Democrats - that would range from 40 to 60% of the panels - with Repiublican voters making up between so and 30% and Independents the rest.   CNN is known to use the 40-30 system - but that showed a disater for the Democrats  and the Gallop Poll apparently went to the  60-20 model for their polling.   Please note that the Gallop poll was done shortly after the CNN poll and they obiously had to support the US Government to save face and get the House to support further funding of the Ukraine War. 

In any event Mozart lies 100% of the time when it comes on the Ukraine issue.   He lied about  everything and when I referred to certain issues that was documented he refused to answer the questions because he knew it was better to lie to save face than to admit that he lied.   

He claims he is not supporting Biden - yet he find excuses and lied to protect that corupt bastard as well.   But then Liars of the World has to Unite to fight the truth.   

I WOULD PUT JUST ONE PLAIN QUESTION TO HIM - WHY DID THE USA REFUSE  TO BECOME INVOVLED IN INTERNATIONA EFFORTS TO PREVENT THE UKRAINE WAR AND WHY DID THEY SABOTAGE THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT EFFORT TO GET A CEASEFIRE IN UKRAINE BY INSTRUCTING THE UKRAINE FOREIGN MINISTER TO WITHDRAW FROM NEGOTIATIONS AND SIGN NOTHING WHEN THE NEGOTIATIONS REACHED THE STAGE  WHERE IT WAS READY FOR INITIALING OF A CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT? 

No it’s based on the most recent poll conducted by the most trusted polling organization.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/513680/american-views-ukraine-war-charts.aspx

You chose to ignore it because it doesn’t fit the narrative of the nutty sites you love . 

CNN is a nutty site according to Moxxie.

The yanks better not send their boys out onto the Ea stern front... the Russkies will toast them. 

Sure, like they toasted the Ukranians

Mozz you are forgetting our Russian bots still feli the ruskies are holding back for some reason. Even though they can't come up with one reason why they would.

Russia has been shown up for the inept bunch of corrupt of fools they are.

Maybe they should send their wives in they can't do any worse the than the men bwahahaha 

The west relies on technology,  the russkies rely on trying to overwhelm  the opposition with bodies. 

How anyone can support such a sick fuck as putin that has no regard for their own people is beyond me.

But hey he hates poofs so in their sick minds that's the man for those perverts. What's a few hundred thousand lives as long as he is anti gay. Showing their true Christian colors. 

Mozart   LMAO

"It’s a matter of simple economics.  The GNP of Russia is less than 4% of the NATO partners. Setting aside nuclear weapons NATO could roll up Russia in a few months. Sure there would be ongoing resistance after the army is defeated, but any significant confrontation would decided in the Wests favor quickly"

LMAO   - where did you get that idiocy from?   The same things was said by Napoleon and Hitler and what happened in their cases.    That is typical Democratic Party thinking - bizarre BS.   in the main.   

Real and reliable reports indicated that the Woke policies of recruitment .backfired,     The USA laid down quota systems that caused them unable to replace annual losses.   The Fuck-up army was further wakened by 60 000 soldiers refusing vaccnes and getting ousted by the US Army.   

In any event  the US Army showed they ciuld not roll up Afghanistan in 23 years - and the US Army  command disgarced them and the army fled from Afghanistan in a disgracefcul way in disgraceful .circumstances.  20 years latee and he US Army is still active in Iraq and it si actually expected that they would soon flee from Iraq like they did in Afghanistan.  

By the way dimness - any government that support that idiocy of yours is unbelievable    No NATO member states believe that Rusia will attack NATO members and none of them will get involved in a war against Russia. and like you totally removed from reality.    Nobody bar idiot like you are constantly warmongering and propagada spreading.    The only member of NATO with a functional and trained army is Turkey will refuse to join the USA and Canada if they decide a war against Russia is necessary.

In any event the war party supporting such a war in any EU country will fall within weeks rather than months.

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Mozart    - LMAO

D o you really believe that drivel - I cannot be lieve it.   It is for sure a new recod on your part due to delusion.  

Does DumbMike even have an arse? He has laughed it off so many times.

Look on the bright side Shark, Mike may have laughed his arse completely off, but he’s still got boobs.

This is going to be tough to take Clever but here is an even more recent poll, done by Pew.

As the war in Ukraine nears the two-year mark, about three-in-ten Americans (31%) say the United States is providing too much assistance to Ukraine in its fight against Russia, while about half say that the U.S. is providing the right amount of support (29%) or not providing enough (18%)

Seems the CNN poll was wrong, no surprise that’s the one you are fixated on.

As for the military equation even if Russia spends 10% of its GNP on defense, the U.S. alone will be outspending it by a factor of six. A puny country by global standards, Russia would do better to worry about their gas exports….now trapped in Eastern Russia by insufficient infrastructure. And when that is sorted they will have the unenviable task of satisfying their dominant customer China.

The price of Putin’s crazy invasion has yet to be paid, and this time the world is not going to be so forgiving.

Moxxie tied up in his stats, doesn't know his arse from his elbow,same as these transgender poep- alls on here. 

Mozart

A puny country the size of 1 sixth of the landed area in the world  with more natural resources in a third of that country then the USA have?   Maybe you are talking of Belgium or Luxemberg or the gutless UK  -certainly not Russia, China or India who would join Russia to defend themselves against madmen ruining the USA at presnt.  .         

Over-printed dollars does not win wars - soldiers do and they are are at present excluded from recruitment  from the US army.  . 

The only way that would work is that the USA in desperation use nuclear arms to attack Russia and the USA have idiots in command at present that would just do it and destroy all the cities  in the USA within record time.   

In any event the USA is at present driving  away millions of voters in EU and NATO countries causing Governments to collapse and anybody like you who obviously support insanity will cause the collapse of he EU and NATO.  The present War in Ukraine is already doing it.

There is another thing the USA can do.   Release the gain-of-function viruses developed in the bio-labs operated by the USA in Ukraine and kill off half of the population of Europe and the world.  I would not put that  beyond the lunatics in Washington either.

By the way the USA food production on farms is collapsing in the absence of fertilizers the USA is importing  from Russia and China - coupled to crazy green energy policies - cauisng reduction of agriculture production  and that would cause food shortages and further food cost inflation in the USA and internal starvation of people alreasdy negatively affecting 44 milion USA citizens will incease rapidly.  .  .  ..        

As I said many times before - those whom the gods wishes to destroy they drive mad and people like you on a shortlist of  madness is definitely going to win in the madness race.  .

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The only reason Russia is even a factor is nuclear weapons, just another thing it stole from the West. Countries with a smaller GNP than Italy shouldn’t have ambitions beyond their borders.

And Clever point out where….in providing links to polls….I falsified a document

Ole Moxxie thinks the rest of the world must sit by and allow the US to continue dropping nuclear bombs on civilians without developing their own

Mozart

I do think the  US Government is involved in.   I also pointed out that Gallop poles have a record of manuipluating outcomes of polls by manipulating aprticipation to get pre-determined resuls,     It is indeed not surprising that Gallop came out with a poll aimed to help the WH to get further funding for Ukraine,   

Now have a look at a gallop poll on the Biden's presidency as reflected here:

"President Joe Biden’s job approval rating remains at 37%, tying his personal low, with disapproval at 59%. Approval ratings of the president’s handling of healthcare (40%) and the situation in Ukraine (38%) are similar to his overall rating, while fewer, 32% each, approve of his handling of the economy, foreign affairs, and the situation between the Israelis and Palestinians."

So how does that match up with your allegations of funding of the Ukraine during the war as you claimed based on a poll by the same company.   It is just one example while the special poll on funding Ukraine was done with a pre-detrment result in mind.

The problem with Mozart is that he is totally committed to support whatever the Biden  Administration wants and he would grab any straws that he believes would support his arguments.   So he has no problem with it to turn 38% into 62%.   

The main issue is - he is asked questions about the USA activities in Ukraine since 2014 proved by recorded documents - but refuse to answer questions on the issue,   

Mozzzue is a hopeless liar. He has never answered the facts proving US led Nato instigated the war, stopped any peaceful resolution and kept the war going. 

Clowns like Mozzzie and MOC think Russia is backward. Yet Russia is tbe foremost nuclear power in tbe World. Their cyber warfare capability exceeds that of the US. They have hypersonic missiles that can't be shot down and the US has not. 

Russia is in a position to wipe out Europe and America if threatened. 

The Russian army is approaching 1.2 million men. Well armed and easily capable of taking whatever part of the Ukraine they want. However Putin recognizes the Ukrainians as brother slavs and Christian. Neither does he want to lose Russian lives. He is probably hoping that with the funding drying up and with Ukraine battling to find new troops, Zelensky will in due course flee the country. 

War mongering freaks and liars like Mozzzue want Ukraine to fight to the last Ukrainian. After a Mozzie wants his Raytheon shares to do well just like the other war mongerers do. 

These clown were all about how Ukraine would be marching on Moscow, how Putin would be toppled, how Russia would be dismembered etc. Yes they were that stupid. They could even realize that if Russia were ever to face defeat they would launch their nuclear arsenal. 

Then these liars and war mongering idiots tried to present cross dressing, corrupt, puppet and tyrannical  pervert Zelensky as a Winston Churchill!. Bwahahahahahaha. Well today that false image is truly shattered. 

The economic consequences for Europe have been disastrous. The bright spot has been the rise of populist nationalist parties all over Europe. 

The illigitimate Biden Regime has successfully rallied tbe World against the  US and it's allies and dedollarization looms as a huge threat.

Years of poking the bear and engineering this war have hurt the West just as the Globalists intended. But thanks to a host of powerful voices their narrative has been shredded and the Great Awakening  is surging forward at an accelerated rate and Mozzie and his Globalist scumbag buddies get weaker. 

Sentiment against the Ukraine war has grown. The Gaza war and tbe Taiwan situation are next on the menu. 

The Ukraine war has been lost. Russia already has largely what it wants. Maybe it still wants Odessa and Kharkov. What is certain is that Russia will get most if not all of what it wants. 

Meanwhile American arms left by traitor Biden are being found in Gaza. Money paid by Biden to Iran fund Hamas.

Being the Uniparty Globalist Rino he is mozzzue supports Biden. Mozzie loves open borders. He is pretty much silent on grands issue and says nothing about Biden's war in energy. He shows no support for Trumps statement about mass deportations of the invaders. Mozzie is a traitor working against the American people. 

Happy news. The Alex Jones account  has been restored on Twitter. One post said at the time of his banning Jones had 36,000 followers. Some 24 hours after having his account restored he has 1.4 million followers including myself! 

 The Vote to allow Jones back on Twitter was won 70.1 to 29.9%!!! 

Mozart

I suggest thatt you should watch th e following video refl ecting  at what is ahppening over the last five days when the Russian army statted attacking the Ukrainians.   

https://www.google.com/search?q=avdiivka+battle+latest+news&rlz=1C1YTUH_enZA1068ZA1070&oq=&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgHECMYJxjqAjIJCAAQIxgnGOoCMgkIARAuGCcY6gIyCQgCECMYJxjqAjIJCAMQIxgnGOoCMgkIBBAjGCcY6gIyCQgFECMYJxjqAjIJCAYQIxgnGOoCMgkIBxAjGCcY6gLSAQk4MDQ2ajBqMTWoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:73a6176a,vid:beecnWKAOrI,st:0

The Ruissian forces have made major gains and advanced rapidly in  the areas near to Bakmut and in Avdivka,  while the Ukrainians  are retreating or surrendering,    The Russians use to cut off supply lines to the Ukrainians by surrounding target areas cutting  off supplies and forcing  Ukrainians troops to surrender.    

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Actually I have never supported Biden. I think he has been a disastrous president and clearly too old to serve. But he was never competent even when not impaired

I am entirely against open borders, but I respect people. Most  of the immigrants who come to the States are doing it to better their lives and the lives of their children. They are willing to work incredibly hard and are doing many of the lousy jobs in the country. 

We need a sane immigration policy, but denigrating decent people isn’t the way to get there.

To some extent I am uniparty. I don’t approve of assault weapons in private hands and the gun culture in America is crazy. The government isn’t coming to take your children. And if they were your pea shooter wouldn’t stop them. All these millions of guns ensure is some deranged person is going to shoot up a school.

Nobody wanted the Ukraine war. The world was trying to recover from the disruptions of COVID. And it’s entirely on Putin for walking into a sovereign country. Many countries would have folded like France in WW2. The Ukranians haven’t.

Zelensky may not be Churchill. But nor is Churchill …Churchill. The myth far exceeds the man who made horrible blunders in both wars. But like Zelensky he served to galvanize the defense.

America has made mistakes with Russia, Sochi for example, never really welcoming them into the fold. But that doesn’t mean you can launch a war which may cause a million deaths and destroy a country. 

Putin isn’t the savior of white South Africa. He is just another thug. Which is a shame because Russia has wonderfully talented people and great cultural history.

In short, I have my own views on life, I’m not governed by a globalist vision or a party vision. I take what I find right. And having lived on three continents and in several countries, I find people have much  in common at a personal level….love of family, willingness to work, a sense of decency.

Russia has already lost this war. The world view of Russia is much diminished. Europe, their logical customer, is in the process of building new energy infrastructure which excludes them and despite the daily ‘news’ on this site, they still haven’t defeated the Ukraine.

Moxxie thinks Russia doesn't own 20% of Ukraine.

Give it up, draw up a peace plan... don't even know why you bother about Ukraine.. is it your 51st State?

Mozart

Tell me which Government will survive the next election in Europe?  Italy, Sweden, the Netherlands Spain and  Slovakia - with the Austrian coalition Government collapsing as well.   The next to go is clearly Germany and France.

Why are the Govermnments collapsing?  The answer is simple and there are three reasons given, namely -

*    The Open Border Policies of the EU

*    The serious impact of the Ukraine War on living costs in European countries;

*     The excessive impact on green energy provision and usage of the war on food production caused by the Greens and leftist fanatics (eg the war on cows because farting cause global warming).   

People are demanding a peaceful settlement in Ukraine and the demand is growing fast.   The longer it takes for such a settlment  in Ukraine can be reached the more antagostic European residents will become to the USA - especially if the USA is seen as delaying negotiations they demand.   

Insofar as the EU country voters is concerned they know there is no threat of Russia attacking them and the story that Russia represents a threat against other countries is propganda BS.  Why does the voters know that - lets look at two issues here.   

*   In 1991 Yeltsin seeks an accommodation with the USA on issues stemming out of the fall of the Communists Regime.   He  said Russia will allow for independence from the Russian Federation if the people in such counries desire it.   There were      two provisions from Russian side and those were that countries previously part of the USSR will not be allowed to join NATO and will remain neutral in future and that agreed Democratic Constitutions be adopted guaranteeing the Human Rights of all citizens. of the new countries,  The USA accepted those conditions and processes to make a number of countries proceeded accrdingly.

*     In 1997 Clinton tried to get some countries to become members of NATO - but his then Secretary of Defense said he will  resign if Clinton followed that route and he insisted that the 1991 agreement be brne in mind.

*     In 2007 Lithuiania, Estonia and Litaue joined NATO - which represented a deviation from the 1991 agreement - but they retained their democratic constitution .     Russia objected to the breach -but did nothing more on the issue

*     In 2008 the US ambassador was informed that admission of Ukraine to NATO would be totally unaccepetable to Russia and lead to war.

*     In 2014 the coup organized and funded by the USA  and after appointment of the Interim Government by the USA caused discarding of the 1991 constitution of Ukraine and  the civil war to break out in Ukraine.

*     In 2015 France and Germany started negotiations in Minsk attended by the Presidents of the Ukraine and Russia as well as a representative of the rebels in astern Ukraine.   An agrement was reached provided for the following -

     -    that the borders of Ukraine be regarded as internationally guaranteed;

     -     that a new cosntitution be compiled to replace the 1991 constitution with similar protection for human rights;

     -      that Ukraine will not be admitted as a member of NATO,  

*      The agrement protected the rights of all Ukrainians and was regarded by all as fair and reasonable and was accepted by the UN Security Council as a basis to stop the civil war in Eastern Ukraine,  However Obama never submitted the agreement to Congress for acceptance meaning that the USA will not be tied to any actions steming from the agreement and  the agreement was never implmented.   The USA kept providing Aid to the Kiev Government - but the Russian Hoax of the Demcorats and the Subsequent Ukraine Hoax by the Demcrats prevented any insistece by Trump for implenetaion of the Minsk agrement.   Despite the media attacks Putin respected Trump and would not do anything to cause poblems.

*    When Biden became President he caused immediate further problems complicating the Ukraine situation.   Zelenskyy banned the use of Russian in public and banned the usage of Russian in Ukraine schools - two measures that would have caused a massivce breach of the 1991 constitution if it was still valid.   

*     When it was clear that the USA insisted on Ukraine joining NATO the issue bcame the source of panic in Europe and Macon went to Moscow and when he asked Putin  what was necessary to stop any war he insisted on all he said that if the 2015 Minsk agreement was implemented their would be no war.   Macron had a new agrement confirming the conditions of the Minsk agreement and Putin signed it.   Macron then went to Kiev and Zelemskyy signed the mew Minsk agreement on behalf of the Ukraine.

*     The US Government send clear signals that Zelesnkyy he should not implmented an agreement signed days before.   As per nomal he followed the Washington instructions and then went ahead  and have all Russian Speaking members of the Ukraine Parlimant arrested and sent 60 000  troops to Eastern Ukraine to crush the Civil war.   

*    Days after the invasion Zelenskyy bannd the functioning of the Ukraine Orthodox Church as well.  

*    In March 2022 the Turkish Government proposed that Ukraine and Russia and Ukraine would sent their  foreign ministers to try and negotiate a settlemtn.  The Turkish Foreign Minster - leading the talks publicly said it was a very difficult issue to be negotuiated  - but progress was indeed made and a draft agreement was ready for initialling the USA then intervened and instructedthe  Ukrainian Foreign Minsuer to leave Istanbul and not to sign anything,.

Another issue cropt up as well  and that was the operations of bio-labs in Ukraine as a potentital threat to saqfety of people worldwide.   Proof of the iestence and functionof the labs were sent to the UN Security Council 0 but the US Governmnt insisted there were no such bio-labs in operation.   Sebator Rubio asked Nuland about the bio-labs and she admitted undedr otah that there were indeed bio-labs in Ukraine but they were not invovled in any research ndagering the lives of people.   She added that the US government was afraid that the US Governmnt is worried about the Russians getting hold of the research material,  If the innocent research were real why was the US Governent worried about the Russians getting hold of the pathogens?

So what made Ukraiune so different from for instance from the Baltic States when it comes to NATO admission.   The Russians  feared that the government of Ukraine after 2014 totally controlled by the USA was a threat to Russian Security,            .      

In essense it was the control of the Ukraine government by the USA combined by the abolition of the 1991 constitution of Ukraine that makes NATO membership the cause of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.  It was not just a whim of Putin or some  make-belief of some impe rial efforts of Russia that the Americans claimed caused the war. . 

The US has never insisted that Ukraine joins NATO. It’s insisted that the Ukraine has the right to join NATO. Big difference. In effect Russia knows nobody is going to attack it…nuclear weapons ensure that. 

The attack on the Ukraine was not because they have joined NATO but because they have not foresworn their right to join NATO. An attack on a principle. .

Russia recognizes it’s a reviled state….all these former Soviet satellites wanting to join the West has to be humiliating. And dictators get deposed when their countries are humiliated.

So they create a war against a country that wasn’t threatening them. And position it as a defense against the evil West. The amazing thing is the long suffering Russians buy it and all the Russia bots fall in line.

Great posts from Beeno and Clevermike.

Imagine Russia setting up shop in Mexico. The poor Mexicans would be obliterated by the yanks straight away.

Half the US Senate wants strong border controls over Mexico anyway... which the other half won't budge on. Russkies laughing at the USA gridlock. 

BS Mozart

The USA insisted on Ukraine joining NATO repeatedly asi quoted above and the real reason the USA sabotaging peace negotiations was their insistence of Ukraine becoming a member state of NATO,

Up to date the USA openly supported their insistance on NATO membership by Ukraine is always a key part of the policy of the Biden Administration - whether you like it or not.  In fact in prvious postings you admitted that the joining of NATO was a right of the Ukraine Government to decide on - but the uUkraine Government has effectively no power to take an independent decision on anything - the US Government control them totally since 2014.  .      

The USA is in total control of the Government of Ukraine after the 2014 coup and the insistance  of the USA to Ukraine bcoming a member country of NATO was the real cause of the war - while another issue that was secondary but also important was the ethnic clensing of Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine - a policy of the present Ukraine Government.    Th e fact is the USA never admitted the situation of ehtnic cleansing was opposed by them at all and the effectively suported it by their proxi puppets in Kiev.   

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Moonrover

Although ignored by Mozart and others is that Mexico applied for BRICS mmbership and China ia aready active in Mexico.  The threat is not Russia in that case - the threat is China.   They are already active in Mexico and the open border policy of Biden resulted in more than 11 000 young men from China entering the USA from Mexico.   In the case of Mexico being admitted to BRICS is going to cause major problems for the USA as it opens the way for Mexico beomig a threat to USA security.   The Chinese migrants entering the USA through Mexico would result in internal terrorist attacks as epressd by Wray when the issue was dealt with in the House ivestigation on the Open Border policy of Biden.   Wray admitted opnly that terorists ntering the USA through the Biden Policy is a major threat causing internal terrorism in the USA.

After all  Obama claimed that Biden has been wrong inthe case of  all foeign all  policy issues he dealt with as Senator and VP.

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Mozart

"Actually I have never supported Biden. I think he has been a disastrous president and clearly too old to serve. But he was never competent even when not impaired."

Agree 100% with you on that one.    Biden is so weak that he is used as a puppet by people like Gates - his Green Policy controller - and  Soros his law and order controller and decisionmaker on the Open Border issue.

I am entirely against open borders, but I respect people. Most  of the immigrants who come to the States are doing it to better their lives and the lives of their children. They are willing to work incredibly hard and are doing many of the lousy jobs in the country. 

In essense I agree with you - the present system is according to Wray of the FBI extremely dangerous and opens the way for terrorist and drugs to get into the USA,    Immjigration should be based on needs of he country in the first instance and enuine refugees fleeing from their countries - not for people who seeks a new country for purely economic purposes.  

"To some extent I am uniparty. I don’t approve of assault weapons in private hands and the gun culture in America is crazy. The government isn’t coming to take your children. And if they were your pea shooter wouldn’t stop them. All these millions of guns ensure is some deranged person is going to shoot up a school."

I agree with you on this one too.   It seems that most people believe that the USA Government - espcially the present one - would not protect them when attacked by criminals and reactionaries,  As an example - there is a huge surge in Jews buying arms since the Muslims are threating the Jews.   The present Government regards criminals are the "oppressed" and in many cases fail to protect ordiary citizens in the USA.  

"Nobody wanted the Ukraine war. The world was trying to recover from the disruptions of COVID. And it’s entirely on Putin for walking into a sovereign country. Many countries would have folded like France in WW2. The Ukranians haven’t.

Zelensky may not be Churchill. But nor is Churchill …Churchill. The myth far exceeds the man who made horrible blunders in both wars. But like Zelensky he served to galvanize the defense.

America has made mistakes with Russia, Sochi for example, never really welcoming them into the fold. But that doesn’t mean you can launch a war which may cause a million deaths and destroy a country. "

You are 100% correct NOBODY wanted he war and that included Putin - bar the US Government.   I gave detailed reasons why I blamed the USA for the actual war.    Instead of negotiation as Biden promised Putin when he met him in Geneva in 2021 -  the USA sabotaged peacemaking proposals and they wanted the war in the beleive that Russia would lose the war if Ukraine is poperly armed by the USA and NATO countries and in that case they would get rid of Putin.   That has been stated repeatedly by Biden and the Biden Government.   The US Government  refused to negotiate with Russia on any issue and undermined an effort by Macron to prevent th war days before the attack.   

"Russia has already lost this war. The world view of Russia is much diminished. Europe, their logical customer, is in the process of building new energy infrastructure which excludes them and despite the daily ‘news’ on this site, they still haven’t defeated the Ukraine..   

I disagree with this issue as well.   Countries w orldwide and especially some close friends of the USA in the past are lining up to join BrICS and the allies in Europe are changing Governments regularly because they suffer from the consequences of the war.   That comes from the instability of the Biden Government in the world.   

"The GNP of Russia is less than 4% of the NATO partners. Setting aside nuclear weapons NATO could roll up Russia in a few months..."

Indeed. my biggest gripe...they should have crushed Russia economically to force them out of Ukraine...force down the price of crude to the levels Trump had it by increasing US production...but that will be against the interests of the Biden Regime backers. With a low oil price, that 4% drops even lower...squeeze the dwarf's balls and see what happens.

This December the USA debt to GDP is 123%

Russian debt to GDP is 21%

True and the debt levels are too high, public and private. But Japan is functioning with 270% debt to GDP. There is no magic number.

It would be more concerning if there was no growth or innovation. But that’s not the case.

Indeed. my biggest gripe...they should have crushed Russia economically to force them out of Ukraine...force down the price of crude to the levels Trump had it by increasing US production...but that will be against the interests of the Biden Regime backers.

Care to explain why oil productions under Biden have exceeded those of Trump and America looks like its going set a new record for oil production this year?

True and the debt levels are too high, public and private. But Japan is functioning with 270% debt to GDP. There is no magic number.

Yeah debt to GDP doesn't matter as much as people tend to think, what matters is a country's ability to service that debt and that's largely dependent on the economic growth of a country.

Stav

That is indeed an extremely dubious claim by the Biden Administration.   Under Trump the emphasis was to keep the USA  oil independent and they did not import oil from elsewhere in the world.    Under Trump the level of the Strategic Oil Reserve was maintained.  Under Biden the sold of that reserve - even to China.

The Biden Regime apparently did not understand how the oil production iduistry operates and  how replacmeent wells has to be undertaken by the private sector.  The first thing  Biden banned  was the Keystone pipeline that would prevent the use of heavy duty vehicles and trains for moving of oil to refineries and from their to major user disposal depots.   The heavy duty vehicles  usage have increased air polution and at the same time increazse  costs on transportation of oil massively.

The other issue that boring for oil requires investments of hundeds of billions and the constant attacks on the oil industry without any guarantees that the use of oil would be alloewd in future be allowed preventing US companies  investing in  new boring oprations and the existing boreholes  are regularly becoming  unconomic.    

As per normal the Biden Administration lies about this issue as well.    The Trump Administratyion strove to produce enough oil for use in the USA, the dishonest US adminsitartion started importing oil  while claiming  they are reducing oil usage in the USA.   That claim is based on lies and that accounts for the rise of debts of the Federal Government from $26 trillion when Bident took over thre years ago to $37,5 trillion at present.

The use of the Strategic Oil reserve is anther problem  they sold some of it to China in dubious deals involving Biden and son.   The Strategic Oil Reserve is there to protect the USA transport system in case of war for three  months - the present reserve is enough to provide oil for three weeks.    If a major War breaks out the US Army will run out of Diesel and petrol for tanks and other heavy duty vehicles within 14 days,    

From real perspective use of the  Startegic Oil Reserve is added to production of oil in the USA and those are the figures the Biden Administration spread as incease in oil produiction.    If that is the case why did the USA start importing oil in the past thee years on a major scale?

Bearing  in mind inflation the vast majoity of people think Biden is a disaster in managing the economy - he only has a 32%  approval rating when it comes to management of the US Economy and then also the fact that s at present 44 million people in the USA are encountering food insecurity - would that be the case if the ecnomy is improving? .    `There is no growth in the economy of the USA,    .   .   

The Biden Adminsitration is basically dishonest.    They announced provision of weaponry banned by the Geneva convention and even by US legilation to Ukraine claiming that would help Ukraine to win the war.   They did not live up to that either.   They weaponry they provided are running out of ammunition and delivery are unavailable and the armamnet industry is in full poduction node - but cannot replace ammo aleady provided by the USA either, their puppet Government in Ukraine are running  out of reseources to combat the Russians and at present forced to retreat con tinuously.   Avdivka is on last legs militarily and will be a repeat of what happened in Bakmut within the next week.    

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So now the USA is banning their nuclear enriched fuel sourced from Russia. 

Thing is it's private companies who buy the enriched nuclear fuel.... maybe only France will be able to supply the demand in the future...... and the companies and cost of energy to the Americans will rise ten fold. Now the Stav clone says he doesn't care about Yankee debt... Clown

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Moonrover

This is just a propaganda exercise.  The ban on Russian products has as much effectiveness as a sieve has in holding water.   The uranium will be obtained through third sources getting  it from Russia.  Would not be suprised if it comes through SA either.  Eskom is busy refuelling Unit 2 and Koeberg - so just importing twice or more than needed and selling it to the USA would be as easy as pie.    You ccan amke a 500% profit on that one.    

It happened in the case of fertilizers too.   The USA used to get it from Rusia and china and they still do - but the purchase price has gone up 800% and the USA Farmers are having to carry the cost.   The farmes have to cut usage and that means a major reduction in production  on USA farms.

Less producton means scarcity of food in the USA and pushing up food prices.    There are already 44 million people (inclusive of 17 million children) encountering  food insecur ity and that number will be doubled if food costs rise another 10%..  Some people from the USA  claim that food prices has gone up 33% since 2019, while wages in the USA have gone up by 4%.    .          .   

A hearty congrats to Mike and Moonrover for their great posts. 

Mike you have completely shredded poor Mozzzie yet again. Your post summarung the Ukraine issue should be read by everyone. If you don't mind I will post it around the place. Brilliant effort. 

Moz of course lying about immigration. He is all for open borders and said that all these great people invading the country are great for the economy, meaning his shares will do well and to hell with ordinary folk.

Of course being the deceiver he is he tries, like the Globalists always do, to make it sound like it's the  right thing to do. It's always for the benefit of the people when in fact the opposite is true.

He is also lying about not being a Globalist. He is, barring one issue fully supportive of the Luciferian Globalists. 

I could gp through the rest of his BS but have other things to get on with. 

Mozzzie is a hopeless fraud. STAVASS is an ASS. Bet the nutter Judy hates Connor McGregor for standing up against the Open Border  Globalists ruling Ireland. 

Come to think of it have you ever heard Mozzie lamenting the destruction of Europe and the US because of the invasion going on. As Nigel Farage says it's the biggest issue in British Politics. 

Mozzzie says zip. He says virtually zip about the trans BS. Do you hear him bemoaning Biden's war on energy. Or the clamp down on free speech. Nope all he does is try and justify Globalist policies.

Beeno 

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