Nobel prize for Covid vaccine enabling research

Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman, who together identified a chemical tweak to messenger RNA, were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine on Monday. Their work enabled potent Covid vaccines to be made in less than a year, averting tens of millions of deaths and helping the world recover from the worst pandemic in a century.

The approach to mRNA the two researchers developed has been used in Covid shots that have since been administered billions of times globally and has transformed vaccine technology, laying the foundation for inoculations that may one day protect against a number of deadly diseases like cancer.

The slow and methodical research that made the Covid shots possible has now run up against a powerful anti-vaccine movement, especially in the United States. Skeptics have seized in part on the vaccines’ rapid development — among the most impressive feats of modern medical science — to undermine the public’s trust in them.

But the breakthroughs behind the shots unfolded little by little over decades, including at the University of Pennsylvania, where Dr. Weissman runs a lab.

You must be insane. 

How many times must the deaths and adverse events be brought to your attention. The excess deaths figure was the final nail in the coffin. 

You obviously didn't see the clip of Bill Gate's no less saying Covid in the end amounted to no more than the flu.An astonishing admission from the  guy. 

What killed the people wete the hospital protocols and in particular Remdesivir. Death rate when trialled in Africa by Fauci was 54%.

No more utter rubbish please mozzz by now you really should know better. 

Looking to me you have a guilty conscience from all the money you made from your Big Pharma shares. Now you can't face the truth. You supported a genocide. 

I’m simply reporting on the Nobel prize. So no I’m not insane the Nobel prize went to MNRA researchers. And no I have no guilty conscience, I’m planning to get the latest Covid shot shortly…I got Covid last November but because I had taken the shot it was a breeze.

Hope they find something that works effectively as to spreading  and infection.    In that respect the present vaccines were worthless.     S orry about what happened - what I ended iup with in the       

I only regret that we could not force the anti-vaxxers to get the shot. 

‘ bwtrtwe A TO APEWsing and infection tna the v‘….hard to argue with that.

Mike is sounding more like Biden every day. Take care of your health, Mike.

I only regret that we could not force the anti-vaxxers to get the shot.

Come to think of it, SB sounding a lot like Biden too.

Sounds like old Pakster is losing it as well. 

Go and check what th ese two genocidal maniacs actually got the Nobel Prize for. 

I other words replace you vast ignorance with the facts. 

Sounds like old Pakster is losing it as well.

Losing what about what Beenz? Me saying someone sounds like Biden is never a compliment.

No doubt HasBeen’s new hero is that utter fool Matt Gaetz.

We should have declared martial law and used guns with plastic bullets laced with the vaccine, in order to  shoot people from long range.

I am for vaccines provided they are effective without side effects.   I was vaccinated myself twice and the second one was anything bui fa removed from a nice experience.

Without ability to safeguard people from getting  infected and without spreading the virus - vaccination has extremely limited value.   Most of the deaths came from people with other morbdities and that would not ebs topped by the present vaccines do not prevent that from happening.    .        .    

We should have declared martial law and used guns with plastic bullets laced with the vaccine, in order to shoot people from long range.

Ambitious, sir

Just a question for the anti vaxxers, how do you determine what modern medical treatments to use and which to avoid?

Do you go to your local doctor when you are unwell or use alternative medicine/prayer instead?

Is it just the covid Vax you avoid or all vaccinations?

And no pedobeeno I don't just want to hear that I am a gullible fool, just interested on a more overall view.

The only medicine I've used on occasion the last 10-15 years is pain pills for the odd headache, the stuff you can buy from the supermarket shelf. When I don't feel well, I wait until I feel better. I know what cold and flu feels like and what to do about it, no need to run to the doc every time. I've been to the doctor just once in the last decade to do a routine heart check as I am in my late 40s now. I don't smoke, I don't drink, I rarely eat the boxed and bagged chemical shit that goes for food in supermarkets (I eat fresh meat, dairy, fruit and vegetables and 95 % of the fluid I take in is water), and I avoid fast foods almost completely. I went through the entire Covid pandemic without so much as a cough even while working with the public (people from all over the country) for months at a time in the midst of it.

Covid hit two groups: the obese, who accounted for more than 70% of hospitalizations in the USA, and the aged. Even moderately healthy people walked it, although a small percentage got quite ill for whatever reason. There was absolutely no reason to vaccinate anyone except the high risk groups, and none whatsoever to vaccinate those who already had natural immunity. The wholesale vaccination of children to whom the disease posed virtually no threat with an experimental vaccine remains a travesty.

How do I decide? Something that was rushed and marketed under a lie and with clear coercion right from the start decided it for me. When you have to rewrite the definition of a vaccine to accommodate the shit you're peddling, well, let's call that a red flag for me.

Pakie

Ho w can you condemn the vaccination of children,   Think of the millions politicians and bureaucrats will lose n backhanders from the Pharma Industry.   How are the poor souls to survive without that initiative?   

Does anyone here oppose vaccinations for measles, polio etc?

I've had my polio and measles vaccines. They do what vaccines are supposed to do - provide permanent immunity, not for a few months and then you have to put more shit into yourself until the end of days. Vaccinating against a coronavirus is nonsense from the start, they mutate too fast. 

Get some exercise, drop to a healthy weight, drink water instead of that sugary fizzy shit, stop eating crackers from the store and processed meats that has a list of chemicals as long as my arm in it and do more veg, fruit and fresh meat. You won't need a stupid vaccine for a jacked up cold then.

"Does anyone here oppose vaccinations for measles, polio etc?"

No we're opposed to the almost mandated poorly trialed rush job jabs being sold as proper vaccines...with emergency use exemptions from claims for negative reactions...total BS!

Well I’m an old coot. I have had four jabs with zero side effects. I got the bug at the Miami Art Show last year, which was crawling with people. One day of elevated temps and then nada. I’m convinced it would have been far more unpleasant had I not been vaccinated.

This has turned out to be a fairly tolerable bug. But it wasn’t that way in the beginning. We were wide open because there was no prior exposure. Like the South American Indians when the Spanish arrived. They died from the flu.

It was crucial to lift immunity levels and the vaccines did that along with natural herd immunity. You can see that in the falling  death rate over time.They also are the best known way to minimize its effects.

The FDA may have an axe to grind, but they have personal risk. They aren’t going to falsify the data. Nor are the scientists at Pfizer or the Pfizer board. The personal risks are too great. Companies were given immunity from legal consequences of errors to get vaccines out  quickly. But nobody  gets immunity from knowingly committing perjury in the litigious US system.

Billions have received this vaccine. There is a massive data pool…the vaccines are safe and effective to a degree. They were never going to be like the Polio vaccine, the virus mutates too quickly.

They are more like a flu shot….no more dangerous and modestly effective.

Mozart

You were very honest about the modestly effective remark.  F or me that is nt an acceptable norm - one would like to support real vaccines that prevent infection and spreading by the vaccinated.   I took 2 shots and h ad some unpleasant consequences as a result - in that regard you were lucky.   

What I would also like to see even more is the develo0pment of a medicine to nbe used as treatment of infected people - at th moment there is really none.   

My 81 year-old sister in law got infected and at the time she was not vaccinated,   She had minimal effects from  it and all the doctgors prescribed were vitamin pills.   She got over the prob lem because she h ad no real morbidities other than old age.   To my mind people suffering from morbidities were killed by the virus causing further problems in such cases.                  

My 74 yo father in law and his 93 yo father had Delta and both beat it in a few days with minor effects...if you look at the stats for South Africa...poorly vaccinated population, vs almost fully vaccinated countries, there's no significant difference in death rate PLUS we have a poor health sector...the difference is, it mutated here at a faster rate,  resulting in Omicron which actually did what the vaccines couldn't do...ended the pandemic....we'll have to wait a few years to know the long term negatives of the vaccines.

Plum, how's your headaches of late?

Moz, they didn't have much data to falsify. And therein lies the problem. Pfizer had a list of "don't knows" on their vaccine data sheet. Don't know if it will cause autoimmune disease, don't know if it will alter genetic data, don't know about repeated dose toxicity, don't know about how spike proteins spread and how long they will remain in the system and what the effect will be. They did know that monkey trials showed a similar level of lung infection on both vaxed and unvaxed monkeys, that the antibodies produced by the vaccines disappeared quickly after 5 weeks, that the vax produced pro-inflammatory cytokines.

So the honest thing to have done was not to market it as "safe and effective", but as "largely unknown but the best we got".

None of this stuff was made public. We were told initially you get the vax, you can't get Covid and you can't spread it. That lie was the basis for mandates that destroyed thousands of livelihoods. To my knowledge no one has been held accountable for that lie with any real consequence . Not the politicians, not the media, not the institutions like the CDC. You have too much faith in the systems. When enough money goes around, everything rots.

"Plum, how's your headaches of late?"

Headaches are better but chest pains are still an issue.

Literally, the day after I got the vax is when it started.

It's been a couple of years now and it hasn't gone way.

Probably a bit psychosomatic sometimes but there is a clear difference and the doctors have confirmed, on multiple occasions now, that the only cause could be the vax. Look, I'm not bragging but I keep fit as fuck. 43 and still rocking. barely drink...when I say barely I mean I have alcohol maybe once or twice a year, and don't smoke either. Still rocking a 6-pack, benching 130kg, and hitting the bag for 30 minutes 5 times a week. I don't ever meet people my age that are my fitness level...hell, I don't generally meet people, of any age that keep as fit as I do. 

And here I am, following the rules and getting screwed over. 

I went from feeling great to now constantly having the fear in the back of my mind that no matter what I do, the old ticker is just gonna give way at some point. 

I get it, a vaccine was needed. 

But what pisses me off is that government and big pharma appear complicit in covering up the side effects. The longer they do that the more difficult it becomes to collect data on side effects and deal with them. 

I'm not against the vaccine. I'm just against a lot of what has gone on around and after it.

We are all influenced by our own experiences. I know nobody that has been vaccinated and has ongoing side effects. There are three academic doctors in my family who are on the faculty of university health systems….they intend to vaccinate regularly.

But the risk has been sufficiently reduced now, by whatever means, that people should be allowed to make their own choices. Just be sure the advice comes from a credible source.

You know atleast 1 cyber friend...from less than 10 on this board who took the jab...funny how its also probably the fittest and strongest one of the lot...

The credibility of a lot of previously sound sources has been chattered to pieces...part of the problem...there can't be informed consent when one side of the narrative is totally silenced...and there still is no outcry...unbelievable!!!

I have no doubt Plum  had a bad experience, but fat 80 year old guys I know didn’t. It certainly doesn’t sound like Plum has any risk factors.

So maybe it’s just random. Or maybe he got a bad batch. The storage requirements are stringent

PRIOR TO VIAL USE:

• Prior to thawing, store in an ultra-cold freezer between -80°C to -60°C

• Once thawed, the vial can be stored undiluted in two ways:

– Up to 5 days in a refrigerator

– No more than 30 minutes at room

temperature

Once Vial is First Used:

• Store between 2°C and 25°C for no more than 6 hours.

DO NOT REFREEZE

……

But perhaps you should actually read a bit of research. Here’s a good summary from Nebraska Medicine, hardly a woke crowd.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-vaccine-statistics-rare-side-effects-of-covid-19-vaccines

Maybe I am wrong but as I stated I h ad two vaccinations and had suffered some consequences.with the second one,    In the 2 year since I started to develop aches and pains and problems I never experienced before.   I developed problems affecting my balance and that has been in evidence over the last 2 years - was it the result of the vaccinations?   I also became seriously depressed on a regular basis to aches and pains I never had before.   

I am not sure whether it was not the longer term result of the  vaccinations -could be so I am playing safe and will not take further vaccinations after that,    My brother also developed health problems within six months after vaccination and he died of those as a result.- he did not have cancer was operated on and he was hopefully on the way to recovery, but  did not work out.   Why?

Sorry - unless they come up with improved vaccines without dangers I am not going to take any further vaccinations.

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I have a constant ringing in my ears, which I don't remember having, before I took the vaccine

I absolutely hate it, it's there all the time ..... I don't know if it was the vaccine, but it possibly could be it.

Having said that, I have also taken other medication since I got the vaccine, so I cannot point everything towards this being solely because of the vaccine.

As I mentioned a few times before ..... if we all took two Aspirin or other medication today...... and measured how we felt over the next 6 months .... how could we not 100% rule out that whatever happens to us over that period of time, was not the effect of the two Aspirin or other medication that we took .... .....you simply can't, because you just don't and won't know.

That anybody today could still argue that these vaccines were safe and effective show they are abysmally ignorant or outright liars.

I have posted numerous articles and opinions by world leading authorities like Dr Malone (the actual inventor of MNRA) and Dr Peter McCullough a world famous cardiologist etc etc etc.

I had typed out a long response to all this by was kicked out by a Windows update coming through. So lost along post.

FACT Insurance companies are experiencing up to 40% excess deaths coinciding with these deadly jabs. Today I posted that 0-24 year old excess deaths are up by 42%

I told you all about the 54% death rate of Remdesivir and explained how people were murdered in hospital using this drug, Madazalon and the ventilators.

Its now established that the African countries that had no jabs fared very much better that all the European countries were people had multiple jabs and died Places like Uganda who had used Malaria treating Chloroquine drugs had virtually no deaths.

Data was provided showing flu deaths in the states dropping to virtually zero and being replaced by so called Covid death. How people dying of motor cycle crash were labeled as Covid deaths.

Then there were all the articles debunking the nonsensical PCR tests even the inventor of the PCR test went on record saying the PCR couldn't be used to test for Covid. The PCR test drove the carefully orchestrated panic. Further fueled by the murders occurring in hospitals.

Leading doctors were censored. Thousands signed the Great Barrington Declaration. Big Tech shut them all down. Them Globalist media stoked the flames of fear. But the data kept coming out. The court forced Pfizer to hand over heir trial data. it was devastating and I shared on this on many occasions. out of 20,000 people 1221 died and over 4,000 had severe adverse  events. It took Pfizer 9 pages to list all the adverse events.

Terrible blood clotting due to the spiked protean. Cancers turbo charged due to people's immune system being damaged, opening then up to all sorts of sickness.

Then how researchers use the VAERS data found that thee adverse events could be traced backed to some some 5 to 10 percent of the batches. They said that some batches had no MNRA component and these were no adverse events or death. Others had 30mg and those people had server adverse events, other batches had 100mg and those receiving these dosages died. This could explain why some people got off scoff free.

Everyday I see evidences and testimonies of people effected by the deadly jabs. Today thankfully there is a massive awakening going on about the dangers involved and few want to get vaccinated. so now they are out with  new "vaxx" Novovax which the traitor Joe Biden is pushing.

I see mozzzz is still running cover for the vaxx as he runs cover for the Ukraine war. Its truly disgusting.

They lied about masks, lied about social distancing, lied about lockdowns, lied abut the vaccine being safe, lied about it being effective, lied about it stopping transmission. What didn't they lie about!!! They censored top medical experts which alone should be a red flag. 

A world wide psyop was launched to create fear and herd the sheepie to take the vaxx. Very successful it was to. All over the world the Globalist media parroted the same lines at the same time. The montages of what various Globalist propaganda were saying were at the same time were remarkable. All of which later were proven to be lies.

However they filed in one important respect. They filed to bring in their tyrannical digital passports. The WEG lobalist are still battling to get this done and o course their CNDCs - someone tell the pedo supporter and extremely ignorant nutjob old crust what a CBDC is!!

Yes Mike the people who died were often old and had two or more comorbidities. Age was over 80  and main comorbidity was obesity. 

All those who died of Covid were tested for Covid by the PCR test that was not fit for use. It was all a scam from beginning to end.

Covid ensued Big pharma made billions and gave kickbacks all around. News channels earned billions in advertising revenue from Big Pharma, politicians etc were paid of as well.

Dear old mozzz tried to tell the bard Big Pharma didn't make money from the vaxx. the oak is completely bent.

Well the tied has turned viciously. Twitter is allowing open discussion on the deadly jabs and on Covid. You Tube is running scared now and allowing clips of doctors speaking out against the jabs. I see people posting on the comments section of the Daily Mail are fully against the jabs. The alternate media, now truly the MSM, is filled with anti jab evidence.

These clowns still try to say we are anti Vaxxers. They are so ignorant they don't even know the MNRA Jabs are NOT vaccines as the have always been defined until they changed the defini tion.

Finally why did hey abandon herd immunity an why did they want children jabbed when. They say less children died of Covid that die of flu.

There has to be accountability oaks as they are planning to eliminate the useless eaters like you and deadly jabs can be use again with even bigger consequences, Covid looks to have been a trial run, time will tell.

Did you even read the link……nope. You prefer to not read anything that contradicts your biases, to listen to the horse doctors on red neck sites. Now that’s pretty dead headed.

Read the link chaps it’s worth a few minutes….you will see almost every supposed vax side effect is actually many times more prevalent as a Covid side effect.

So it’s quite likely many of these supposed vax issues are the result of contracting Covid. The article provides a lot of data, all of which conclusively supports the vaccine.

If ya'll suddenly don't hear from me again ...it's the vax wot dunnit.

Stick with moz and plum?

if you look at the stats for South Africa...poorly vaccinated population, vs almost fully vaccinated countries, there's no significant difference in death rate PLUS we have a poor health sector...

Do they even register births and deaths in empoverished SA.

Plus the corrupted ANC could have taken kickbacks to fudge the numbers.

Headaches are better but chest pains are still an issue.

Literally, the day after I got the vax is when it started.

It's been a couple of years now and it hasn't gone way.

Must be a globalist ploy to get rid of the most brilliant white people around.

"Do they even register births and deaths in empoverished SA.

Plus the corrupted ANC could have taken kickbacks to fudge the numbers."

You keep telling yourself that you brainwashed bot...pens en pooitjies in die gemors.