The dark night of the most evil president and administration ever is about to end!
Hope all the Oaks enjoy the ceremony.
How did Trump win. I was sure only neoco n warhawk Haley could win. Seems Beeno was right once again.
Oh no shrieks poor Blobbrain Hitler is coming to power. The fake news media told me this so it must be true.
Bwahahahahaha.
That acceptance speech should be quite something Half the crowd might leave long before he's done.
Trump pulling no punches….it must be tough for Biden etc. sitting there with a protocol that says they have to quietly listen.
Just read a book by Frederick Forsyth where the Cartels are declared terrorist organizations. Interesting that Trump has just done that.
Certainly lively … haha.
Trump gave a truly magnificent speech.
Better days are ahead for the American People and the World.
Unfortunately South Africa is too involved with China and we might be on the receiving end of some tarrifs...I hope the saving in fuel prices will be enough tu curb the drop of the value of our currency...but a drop in world prices will still benefit us.
Trump will make peace with Russia and a rising tide will lift all boats.
I see our stock exchange is rising.
Quite a coincidence that most of the hostages have recently been released....... after such a long time
Such incredible timing
DA
Yu my have missed to - but 14dys ago Trump said that if the hostges are not released by 20 January if the hostges are not released he will wipe out the leadership of Hmas plus all heir amily members. He then send his nominated ME negotiator to work with the Biden rep to get the deal done with Trump's threat forxcing the Hamas lot to sign t he ceasefire nd released the hostages, .
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Yu my have missed to - but 14dys ago Trump said that if the hostges are not released by 20 January if the hostges are not released he will wipe out the leadership of Hmas plus all heir amily members. He then send his nominated ME negotiator to work with the Biden rep to get the deal done with Tr ump's threat forxcing the Hamas lot to sign t he ceasefire nd released the hostages"
Hi Mike
Thanks, I am very well aware of what Trump said and the very clear demands that he stipulated needed to happen in that timeframe.... hence why I posted that it was such a coincidence and incredible timing that it happened now as Trump was coming into office.
Another thing that I assume Trump will never get credit for, and people will still credit Biden.
Of course some will argue that Hamas just waited for Biden to vacate the White House and did this as a gesture of good faith and favour to him, and nothing at all to do with Trump's threat.
Quite a coincidence that most of the hostages have recently been released....... after such a long time
Such incredible timing
Most were not. 3 Hostages were released.
Thanks, I am very well aware of what Trump said and the very clear demands that he stipulated needed to happen in that timeframe.... hence why I posted that it was such a coincidence and incredible timing that it happened now as Trump was coming into office.
Another thing that I assume Trump will never get credit for, and people will still credit Biden.
It wasn't Trump threat's to Hamas that helped get the deal over the line, apparently it was the pressure he put on Netanyahu. Trump sent his middle east envoy Steve Witkoff to Israel recently and in a closed door meeting he effectively told the Israeli's they must cut a deal in what was supposedly a heated enough exchange that took the Israeli side by surprise.
Absolutely I will credit Trump for this as well as Biden as it was both administrations working together something which Biden himself acknowledged (and while I partially credit Biden here I still remain extremely critical of Biden's weak handling of the whole situation). The actual terms of the deal are pretty much a match for the Biden administration proposed all the way back in May 2024 but Netanyahu wasn't interested until now . It's does seem very unlikely the deal would have got over the line without Trump's intervention.
We don't know if Netanyahu was promised anything by Trump behind closed doors. They two do have a good relationship especially since Trump moved the American embassy to Jerusalem and acknowledged an undivided Jerusalem it as the undivided capital.
Trump did lift the sanctions that Biden had put on Israel settlers in the west bank who had carried or organized violent attacks on Palestinian civilians on day one. Doubt that was enough on its own to make the Israeli's cut a deal.
But before everyone starts patting Trump on the back. The deal has a long way to go with hostages been released in waves over a period of about two months. Many have expressed skepticism that the ceasefire will last and that includes Trump himself who said he wasn't entirely confidant the ceasefire will hold.
Of course some will argue that Hamas just waited for Biden to vacate the White House and did this as a gesture of good faith and favour to him, and nothing at all to do with Trump's threat.
As for Trump's threat's to Hamas, that had nothing to do with the release of the hostages, as if Trump could do anything more to Hamas that Israel already hasn't done, Gaza has been utterly wrecked, what was he going do wreck it a second time? Hamas are getting there own thing out of this namely a ceasefire and hundreds of Palestinian's prisoners released in exchange.
I do have a feeling that if Biden had negotiated this deal without Trump's help he would be criticized by Republican's for pressuring Israel into making a deal before Hamas was defeated and for capitulating to Hamas.
As for Nentanyahu, while I do think that a ceasefire in Gaza is a great thing, it's an end to the slaughter and a return of the hostages back very good things, the timing does feel rather cynical on Bibi's part, why didn't he take the deal months ago, what's all the military action in Gaza accomplished since then. Lots of civilians killed, more hostages dead and Hamas still existing when Israel inevitable stopped fighting.
Interesting sidenote. Trump apparently sent envoys to Russia as well a few months back and in a similar manner to Israel the Russian side was taken by surprise. They were expecting a much friendlier approach from Trumps side but apparently this wasn't the case, while details are somewhat unclear the report's are that Trump's envoy took a surprisingly firm stance regarding Ukraine which the Russian's didn't like. Putin's response was well what you could only describe as "classic KGB", he had nude pictures of Melani Trump plastered all over Russian state TV. It was a coded but obvious message back to Trump implying that Russia will play low and dirty.
Over on Trump's side in the last week or so reality has start to set in as some of the the grown ups have looked at the situation and their has been an acknowledgement that achieving a deal in Ukraine is not going be done quickly with suggestions that a deal will take at least 100 days, though many consider that assessment far too optimistic.
"Most were not. 3 Hostages were released."
Correct.... with hopefully 4 more this weekend..... at least this process has finally been started, which is brilliant.
"the timing does feel rather cynical on Bibi's part, why didn't he take the deal months ago, what's all the military action in Gaza accomplished since then. Lots of civilians killed, more hostages dead and Hamas still existing when Israel inevitable stopped fighting."
Precisely the reason why I say that Trump had far more to do with this than Biden ever did....and the timing illustrates this, and even if it takes another 6 weeks, which they are projecting it will take..... they have already been there for 15 months, which tells me that Biden has done SFA, and Trump orchestrated this.
"But before everyone starts patting Trump on the back. The deal has a long way to go with hostages been released in waves over a period of about two months"
Absolutely it does..... possibly 6 weeks or more, and again I will say, these hostages have been there for 15 months already, which is a hell of a lot of time for the Biden administration to have done something for them..... but absolutely zero happened.
This is all Trump.
Stav
There is one ig difference between Trump and Biden, that being-
* leades world wide knew that Bidenw as a weakling who neve acted on anyhing and s afaid f talking to world leaders; while
* mst f tehm fear him and if he sid jump the do, because he enver abandon what e said would happen
Trump had people he regarded as terrorist leaders killed and Hamas knew their own leadeship will be wiped out if the dio ayhing Trump opposes,
Trump will meet Putin - Biden was afraid to do - in 14 days and and an agremeent will be reachedthat would benefit Uktrine to a greater extent than the positions they are in at present. and I think in essence the Minsk agreement of 2015 would be implemented,
Thee are two ddiitional issues though and that relates to the bio-labs the UASA are operating in Ukraine will eb clsed down woth immediate effect and the Asov Battalion will be dissolved based on teh fact that they were declared a rterrorist and mercenary force b the UN.
I hink there are two issues that will need uintenional help and that is compiling of a new Constitutitoon for Ukraine and after that eklections being held, The ther immediate USA issue is the withdrawal of the C IA from Ukraine, togethe with US Troops at presenrt in Kieve.
An International Commission will be formed to promote anxd unxderake restoration of Infrastructire in Ukraine and all aidfunding will flwo tot hat Commission since the corruption level in Ukraine will ahve to be elimnated first before any fither aid wil floe to the new Ukraine Gvenment.
I think the meeting will tae place either in Geneva, Vienna or Budapest. .
We will know over the nrxt 14 days what will happen in the Ukraine War - but I think the war is likely to be over within the next two weeks through introduction of a ceasefire first, The problem is that Trump will not enter into negotiations with utin unles the German and Frnch Government is involved and Germany has an election upcoming on 23 February 2025 nd that amy delay the full negotiations likely to be done subsequently to that date. , . , .
Precisely the reason why I say that Trump had far more to do with this than Biden ever did....and the timing illustrates this, and even if it takes another 6 weeks, which they are projecting it will take..... they have already been there for 15 months, which tells me that Biden has done SFA, and Trump orchestrated this.
And this is why the discourse in politics is so bad. You would have to been either asleep for the last 9 months or political biased in the extreme not to acknowledge the Biden administration made numerous attempts at getting a ceasefire, coming very close on several occasions only for Netanyahu to pull the rug from under them.
It was also the Biden administration that got a deal through between Israel and Hezbollah, you know that other front Israel was fighting on, which weakened Hamas considerably.
You can argue that Biden wasn't assertive enough, but he certainly did try.
Absolutely it does..... possibly 6 weeks or more, and again I will say, these hostages have been there for 15 months already, which is a hell of a lot of time for the Biden administration to have done something for them..... but absolutely zero happened.
This is all Trump.Stav
There si a probem here - nobody really believe that Biden would guarantee anything and if he does he will be unlikely to act issues.
When Trump says he is going to do something he will do so at all times, Putin complained in t he ast that Trump was and is a difficult person to negotiate with since h e always put the USA interests first,
On the other hand Trump does not beliee in wars bein g a solution to any problems and that is why he met with arious EU leaders even before he was inaugurated as President, I forsee the enxt major issue he would face internationally would be meeting with Putin and Putin knows he is going to have to make concessions or Trump would put the squeeze on him.
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"And this is why the discourse in politics is so bad. You would have to been either asleep for the last 9 months or political biased in the extreme not to acknowledge the Biden administration made numerous attempts at getting a ceasefire, coming very close on several occasions only for Netanyahu to pull the rug from under them"
Yep, and that is on Biden..... and nobody else.
"And this is why the discourse in politics is so bad. You would have to been either asleep for the last 9 months or political biased in the extreme not to acknowledge the Biden administration made numerous attempts at getting a ceasefire, coming very close on several occasions only for Netanyahu to pull the rug from under them.
It was also the Biden administration that got a deal through between Israel and Hezbollah, you know that other front Israel was fighting on, which weakened Hamas considerably.
You can argue that Biden wasn't assertive enough, but he certainly did try."
If that was your son, daughter, grandchild, mother or father being held captive for that long, under those absolutely disgusting conditions, especially with some of the young girls and women being repeatedly raped and other hostages repeatedly tortured, as confirmed and reported by the UN ..... do you really expect them to believe that Biden "tried"
Biden may have tried, and if he did, it was as abysmal as what his presidency was....
This was all Trump's doing .....and nothing to do with Biden, because if it had anything at all to do with Biden, it would have been completed loooooooong before Trump came into office...but things only started happening closer to when Trump was about to take office..... there is absolutely no coincidence at all in that happening.
If that was your son, daughter, grandchild, mother or father being held captive for that long, under those absolutely disgusting conditions, especially with some of the young girls and women being repeatedly raped and other hostages repeatedly tortured, as confirmed and reported by the UN ..... do you really expect them to believe that Biden "tried"
Firstly my heart goes out to the families of those held captive. It's probably one of the most horrendous experiences imaginable for human beings to have to go through, but that doesn't change the fact that Biden did try and why does everything in the world depend on the actions of the US President.
Why should they be looking at Biden before the actions of their own government. He hasn't kept Gaza under siege for years, he wasn't responsible for Israeli security failures on October 7th. He didn't force Netanyahu to keep the war going.
Its the Palestinian's that can feel aggrieved with Biden for aiding and abetting genocide.
Biden may have tried, and if he did, it was as abysmal as what his presidency was....
Abysmal Presidency that left the American economy as one if not the best performing economy in the world. In the fullness of time Biden will probably be considered a weak to okay President but he will be better regarded than Trump.
This was all Trump's doing .....and nothing to do with Biden, because if it had anything at all to do with Biden, it would have been completed loooooooong before Trump came into office...but things only started happening closer to when Trump was about to take office..... there is absolutely no coincidence at all in that happening.
The deal didn't happen because till now Netanyahu didn't want it to happen. Now you can blame Biden for not pressuring him enough if you want when Netanyahu deliberately sabotaged earlier negotiations. Its not clear what Trump offered Netanyahu to do the deal and that might become clearer in time but the deal was still Biden's deal primarily negotiated by the Biden administration to deny Biden any share of the credit is just political bias.
k, so after more than a year of negotiations, this just only happened to gain traction now, just as Trump came into office, but it only gained traction because of all the hard work and proposals that the Biden administration put in, over these last 15 months..... and it all just surprisingly came to a head when Trump was about to enter the White House.
Lol.... yeah ok.... good ole Biden..... the timing is astounding Were did I say it only gained traction because of all the hard work and proposals from the Biden administration. What I said is both sides can share credit, it was Biden's deal and his side that handled the vast majority of negotiations between Israel and the various other parties in the middle east that acted as a neutral go between to Hamas. The deal was a fundamentally a sound deal given the fact its been accepted by both sides, but nothing changed in the deal only Netanyahu's willingness to accept it and that's where Trump came in. And you know this how...? How do you know that Trump's terms were not met, and Biden's discarded? Emm because those are the terms that have been publicly stated and accepted by both sides including the Israeli cabinet.
Anger in denial again…..if Harris was president, nothing would be happening. Just like the whole Biden presidency in almost every sphere, nothing happened.
Yes Trump introduced randomized controlled trials into the hostage deal and it was the decisive moment that got the deal over the line.
Where am I in denial. I've given Trump his credit, but you guys are incapable of giving Biden any.
"Why should they be looking at Biden before the actions of their own government"
Because everyone looked at Trump..... simple.
"In the fullness of time Biden will probably be considered a weak to okay President but he will be better regarded than Trump"
Let's compare Biden to Trump when Trump can actually perform his presidential duties without sabotage from all angles, whether it be the media or other political opponents, and if he doesn't perform, I will be the first one to tell you that you are correct..... but I doubt that I will ever have to say that, such is my confidence that Trump will do so... so much better than Biden
"Its not clear what Trump offered Netanyahu to do the deal and that might become clearer in time but the deal was still Biden's deal primarily negotiated by the Biden administration to deny Biden any share of the credit is just political bias.
Preceisely my point.... so then why are you categorically stating this.... "the terms of the deal were the ones Biden administration came up with"
This happened because of Trump.... no question in my mind.
"The deal didn't happen because till now Netanyahu didn't want it to happen"
I see.... so then maybe Netanyahu just waited for Trump to take office then, because he had no confidence in Biden.
"Emm because those are the terms that have been publicly stated and accepted by both sides including the Israeli cabinet. What you think if some sort of secret deal was in place Hamas wouldn't notice or say nothing?" No, I am again referring to your clear statement earlier that this was all down to Biden's administration and their terms that were put forward........ which is wrong.My hunch is Steve Witkoff said to Bibi, look we want a deal by the time Trump becomes President, it was one of his campaign pledges. It will make Trump look really good and you owe us one for moving our embassy to Jerusalem. Do this for us and when things settle down and the conflict is out of the headline you have complete carte blanche to do whatever the hell you want in Gaza and the West Bank, you will get zero blow back from us.
You genuinely believe this will happen .....
"Since according to you lot absolutely everything revolves around the US President"
Just provide one single post where I have ever said that, or even inferred it, that the US president personally has the sole directive and responsibility to solve all the worlds problems.... just one....... in fact, how about posting this statement from any poster at all, on this forum, from the inception of this forum.
Because everyone looked at Trump..... simple.
No they weren't, they were looking at their own government, hence the constant protests against Netanyahu's government.
Let's compare Biden to Trump when Trump can actually perform his presidential duties without sabotage from all angles, whether it be the media or other political opponents, and if he doesn't perform, I will be the first one to tell you that you are correct..... but I doubt that I will ever have to say that, such is my confidence that Trump will do so... so much better than Biden
Sounds like your getting in the excuses already. Its never Trump's fault, he was always sabotaged, sabotaged by the establishment, the media, the leftie lawyers and their damn concerns about human rights and it of course was the Russian Hoax.
This happened because of Trump.... no question in my mind.
Ah so Trump without any of the preliminarily work would have had an oven ready deal ready to be signed on day one?
I see.... so then maybe Netanyahu just waited for Trump to take office then, because he had no confidence in Biden.
What do you mean no confidence. I know Biden and Netanyahu didn't like each other but why exactly would Netanyahu lack confidence in Biden, its not like Biden put any effective restrictions on him or Israel.
No, I am again referring to your clear statement earlier that this was all down to Biden's administration and their terms that were put forward........ which is wrong.
Look at my very first post on the topic
Quote "Absolutely I will credit Trump for this" and " It's does seem very unlikely the deal would have got over the line without Trump's intervention."
My second post
"You can absolutely credit Trump for getting the deal over the line"
My third post
"What I said is both sides can share credit"
I've no idea on what grounds you're saying I made a clear statement that it was all down to Biden's administration.
You genuinely believe this will happen .....
Most likely.
Just provide one single post where I have ever said that, or even inferred it, that the US president personally has the sole directive and responsibility to solve all the worlds problems.... just one....... in fact, how about posting this statement from any poster at all, on this forum, from the inception of this forum.
Its the general attitude and the natural implication that Trump supporters arguments imply. They take complex issues that may or may not have anything if much to do with the US President and without providing any details, just constantly infer that X wouldn't have happened under Trump or X would have happened.
Where am I in denial. I've given Trump his credit, but you guys are incapable of giving Biden any.
What did you have in mind. I think Clinton did a good job with the economy and Bush’s team gave us the financial crisis.
Obama had a very cautious presidency, but he never went down the more radical paths his supporters expected…if his wife was ever a candidate, that would be concerning.
But Biden. Seriously. Do you really believe that confused, faltering old man we saw in the debates was orchestrating anything. And the Biden Committee had no discernible foreign policy strategy, made no real effort to deter Russia before the conflict, created the inflation that lost him the election, followed a ludicrous anti trust policy.
What is there to like. Take the Nippon/US Steel deal. Our most important ally in the world’s most dangerous theatre wants to buy a faltering US company and he rejects the deal because of Union pressure. There are no strategic risks involved…if there ever were it could simply be nationalized.
Trump is echoing Biden’s position for political reasons which is disappointing.
What did you have in mind.
His Infrastructure Act. There seemed to be a reasonable consensus that America's infrastructure needed a general overhaul and it was long overdue. Its one of the few things that I didn't hear much in the way of criticism from the right wing. They mostly stayed silent. The problem for Biden was the benefits of said Act were not never going to be apparent during his term as President. Other Presidents down the line will get the credit. Its one of the problems with politics in general, the need for short term results to stay in power over something potentially better long term.
Biden finished the fight against Covid so to speak. He cut out all the arguments with the experts, followed the science and increased the rate of vaccination. Now a bit like Trump finishing off ISIS, which would of been achieved under Obama I do of course think Trump would of got there in the end as well had he remained President but Biden put more energy and focus into it than Trump was doing and very likely achieved better results than Trump would have.
Millions more people were able to obtain health insurance under Biden's administration.
There was some progress on student debt, albeit not as much as the administration would of liked, but a step in the right direction.
I think Clinton did a good job with the economy and Bush’s team gave us the financial crisis.
In fairness didn't Bush have to deal with left overs of the Dot Com bubble crash from the Clinton Administration?
Obama had a very cautious presidency, but he never went down the more radical paths his supporters expected…if his wife was ever a candidate, that would be concerning
Luckily for republicans she has no interest in running, she would win in a landslide.
But Biden. Seriously. Do you really believe that confused, faltering old man we saw in the debates was orchestrating anything. And the Biden Committee had no discernible foreign policy strategy, made no real effort to deter Russia before the conflict, created the inflation that lost him the election, followed a ludicrous anti trust policy.
Yes he was orchestrating policy, sure he was an old man well past his prime and shouldn't have ran for a second term but he was still running the show while he was President. Could a younger man have done things better, sure. Doesn't mean some secret cabal was propping him up like weekend at Bernie's.
As for foreign policy, he did have one. He mended bridges with his allies damaged by Trump and worked with them instead of constantly arguing with them. He was a consensus builder, not someone who shouted at them to no effect. He ended America's involvement in its longest running war (regardless of how it ended). His policy towards China was actually pretty much the same as Trumps.
Now if you want no discernible foreign policy, lets look at Trumps policies, which included fighting constantly with his allies and putting economic tariffs on them, while playing nice with Valdimir Putin. He started a trade war with China only to negotiate half a trade deal with them, in which the Chinese didn't fulfill their obligations. He pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal and replaced it with what exactly? He tried to pull out of Syria and then changed his mind and went back in but not before thousands were dead and hundreds of thousands were made homeless.. He backed a Saudi/UAE blockade of Qatar at the same time his own state department was condemning it and thus endorsed a blockade of his own countries largest airforce base in the Middle East. He backed a an authoritarian strong man in Libya as he launched an attacked against the UN and up till that point US backed Libyan government. He inflamed the situation in Palestine Israel with his decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, which triggered largely peaceful protests that the Israeli's brutally cracked down on resulting in hundreds dead and thousands wounded. His deal of the century was widely derided as a bad joke and he achieved the square sum of nothing with his negotiations with North Korea. And then we get to Afghanistan were he went around the Afghan governments backed and negotiated what some could call surrender terms to the Taliban, then when he lost the election he went out of his way to ensure he his administration did not co-operate with Biden's transition team on the team, expedited the pull out as many troops as he could as quickly as possible and left American forces holding only one airbase by the time the new administration came in, thus hobbling the Biden's administrations options in Afghanistan and while out of office he kept pressuring the Biden administration to keep to his timeline, only changing position about 2 weeks before the American pullout was complete when the writing was clearly on the wall.
made no real effort to deter Russia before the conflict, created the inflation that lost him the election, followed a ludicrous anti trust policy.
If Biden had taken a stronger line against Russia you would of been first in the queue to say he was needlessly provoking Russia and a war monger. Just like when Biden moved to a stronger position with regards Taiwan, moving from the ridiculous strategic ambiguity to the much more clear and forceful, we will intervene if you attack Taiwan, you criticized him.
As for inflation, he created part of it, which I believe you have acknowledged in the past. But of course American's are too insular too look at the bigger picture globally to see that inflation was a world wide issue.
As for anti trust well their is pro's and con's to be argued but its simply too early to tell whether its good or bad in the long run. Their is a balancing act between over regulation stifling progress and corporations being allowed to become too powerful and to run a muck. Lack of regulation is what caused the 2008 financial crisis.
What is there to like. Take the Nippon/US Steel deal. Our most important ally in the world’s most dangerous theatre wants to buy a faltering US company and he rejects the deal because of Union pressure. There are no strategic risks involved…if there ever were it could simply be nationalized.
Trump is echoing Biden’s position for political reasons which is disappointing.
Wasn't rejected on strategic grounds, but on competition grounds. Again its one of those things that's impossible to prove whether its a good or a bad thing.
Just a few thoughts:
There’s always an opportunity for more infrastructure spend, but you don’t start it when the economy is in building inflation.
Covid was fixed by the vaccine. Some prudence on the part of people. And the weakening of the virus.
The financial crisis was 5 years after the dot com burst. It was a weak period in the markets, but the financial crisis occurred because Bush’s team allowed Lehman to go down and because capital requirement changes they made were exposed by mortgage backed securities. The Bush team has a lot to answer for.
Both Biden and Trump stated their US security opposition to the Nippon deal, the lawyers created a weak technical case. It was all about a perceived reduction in US jobs and union votes. As with most things it was about politics….and it was shoddy treatment of a strong ally.
I wasn’t suggesting Biden take a stronger line, I was suggesting he should have been personally involved in trying to avoid the conflict….talking to Putin, trying to get Xi Jinping involved. It was a moment for diplomacy…Biden went straight to confrontation and the Ukraine is destroyed. I blame Putin in the main, but Biden’s inability to talk to people like a human being made it all inevitable.
My problem is the reckless expenditure closely linked to maladminis tration and otal loss of control over financial mana gement hsi pushed up the US Federal D ebt from $26,5 trilion in 2021 to #37 trillion in 2025,
That could have been avoided if their were sound financial managenet - but tere was none as is evident that in two Deprtments there were a total of $500 billion revealed in audits that no proof existed on what the money was spent.
Over the last 3 years 90$ of the workers neve spent a single day in their offices. They were even allowed to appint "secretaries" paid by the Federal Government. Reserched produce evidence most of those absentee workers spend their days -
Now that is what I would call really had work - but in reality they went AWOL.
Biden specialized in closing down coal and gas electricy generating plants so he spent capital invesment in green energy projects to replace the closed plants, Problems are that the gree energy plants did not meeet the projected tarhgets and s to an energy pespective the USA is no worse off than they used to be and energy prices kep going up.
Itis great to have theoretical ideas about infrastrucure improvments. Infrastru cure costs need to be tightly controlled but it is common practice for companies to tender low prices to get tendes awarded - nd then want tender price increases to complete prjects,
I will give you an interesting example where that type of BS on a major problem of that nature was avoded. After submission of development proposals and total production timelines the SA Government granted an international consortium the right to cnstruct a new N2 Highway between Port Shepstone and East London along the wild coast, and the consortium had to raise a loan themselves and was giena concession to operate and maintain the road for 30 years and in return they got toll plazas where tolls on the road usage are raised by all users, The tolls will be high - but if the extra petrol using going from Port Shepstone to Kokstad and from there through Umtata it does not represent extra expenditure amd represents a major time saving in travelling time. The costruction costs would be circa R30 Billion nd the targeted completion date was July 2024 - but there were delys and is no set or completion by January 2026 - but could be sued earlier, It will open u a large rea fr mning tourism and community development as well.
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What’s wrong with bubble n baths with secretaries?
Notthing - but it is bit wrong when their wives are at work and they are taking time off from their official duties, LOL