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Oxford mathematician educates atheists

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Aug 2023, 12:51
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22 Aug 2023, 12:51#1

Prof Lennox demolishes atheists on a number of fronts. Watch him speak at the Oxford Union Debating society.






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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
22 Aug 2023, 13:01
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22 Aug 2023, 13:01#2

Saw this video a few weeks back...

Beeno, people get completely lost. It's why I always try to draw them into the conversation via philosophy. 

If you listen to what this man is saying, at the base of it is an extremely logical philosophical argument. 

I feel truly grateful that I'm the type of person that loves ideas and concepts. That information doesn't frighten me.

It's hard to imagine being the opposite.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Aug 2023, 13:32
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22 Aug 2023, 13:32#3
Agree Plum it is a largely a logical philosophical argument. Science does not answer all questions but we can come to answers in other ways. I loved his debates with Richard DORKins.
He is a brilliant man. Note the Master degree in Bio Ethics. Helped him in his debate with Daw kins.:

John Carson Lennox (born 7 November 1943) is a Northern Irish mathematicianbioethicist, and Christian Apologist. He has written many books on religion, ethics, the relationship between science and faith (like his books, Has Science Buried God and Can Science Explain Everything), and has had public debates with atheists including Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens.

He retired from professorship where he specialised in group theory. He is Emeritus Professor of Mathematics[2] at the University of Oxford and an Emeritus Fellow in Mathematics and Philosophy of Science at Green Templeton College, Oxford University. He is also an Associate Fellow of the Saïd Business School and a Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum.

Early life[edit]

John Lennox was born on 7 November 1943 in Northern Ireland and brought up in Armagh where his father ran a store.[3] He attended The Royal School, Armagh, and went on to become Exhibitioner and Senior Scholar at Emmanuel College, Cambridge, where in 1962 he also attended the last lectures of C. S. Lewis on the poet John Donne. Lennox obtained Master of Arts and Doctor of Philosophy degrees at the University of Cambridge with the dissertation Centrality and Permutability in Soluble Groups (1970).[4] He was awarded a Doctor of Science degree in mathematics by Cardiff University for his research. Lennox also holds a Doctor of Philosophy degree from the University of Oxford (by incorporation)[5] and an M.A. degree in bioethics at the University of Surrey.[6]

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Aug 2023, 13:33
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22 Aug 2023, 13:33#4

A lot of the time Plum one is dealing with blind prejudice and the result of brain washing.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
22 Aug 2023, 16:44
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22 Aug 2023, 16:44#5
His argument is sound. How is something created by chance that is capable developing beings within it that are conscious and comprehend creation. "The cosmological constant, denoted by ?, has a numerical value of approximately 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000011056 per square meter." If that minute number reads ...55 or ...57 at the end...no universe." Which is precisely a point that I made here last week. Stav's answer to this was... "Don't start at the end." Lol that's some bullshit if ever I've heard it because, as we all know, according to Einstein, the directional flow of time is but an illusion...or matter of perception. So there is no end and start, there is simply us experiencing things as an start, middle or end. I'd really love to know how scriptures are as accurate as they sometimes are in their wording when they talk about things that 100AD humans had very little understanding of....never-mind 3000bc humans. At the very least, these things should be interesting to the intellectually curious.
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