Here you go VisKop
Kinda odd that the guys running the most advanced airforce on earth spending money on conspiracies, right?
Do you require a clear picture of the chap that will run UAPTF?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/15/us-department-defense-ufo-taskforce
I'll ask again - Why now?
Right, let me get this straight.
A) Trump is likely creating a conspiracy. BUT according to you conspiracies do not exist.
Result - Only Trump creates and fuels conspiracies.
B) The US military are so dumb that they not only reveal their top secret aircraft to the world but then investigate their own aircraft as unknown and allow for the media to report on it.
Result - Top secret projects can be outed by different branches of the military that are not involved with them. The group running the project has no means to communicate with and deter investigations by other branches of military that stumble upon these projects.
C) UFO doesn't mean alien.
Result - Wow, you think?
D) Light refraction causes radar, IR tracking and B&W video to capture the same object/s at the same time. While life-long military pilots visually confirm the siting of tracked solid objects and the effects the object's propulsion system have on the surrounding environment. That some amazing light.
Result - Radar is now able to be confused by a new form of light that reflects radio waves similarly to how solid objects do. You need to report this startling new phenomenon. It is likely the greatest scientific discovery of the 21st century. Also, trained observers that are psycometrically tested by military and entrusted with machinery worth hundreds of millions of dollars are subject to mass hallucinations. Hallucinations that are then confirmed by the best tracking systems known but which are coincidentally faulty at the exact moment the hallucinations occur. Makes total sense.
D) These supposed vehicles are man made.
Result - Another massive scientific breakthrough. Humanity has figured out how to generate or manipulate gravitational waves. Propulsion that gives off no heat signature. Gone are the days of fossil fuels.
E) Aircraft from another country.
Result - Let's assume it's China or Russia. One of these craft could destroy the US Navy's entire fleet. Tracked speeds are in ranges of 80 000ft per <1sec. The equivalent of taking a Superhornet back to the 1200s. America's enemies have these craft but are pretending that they don't while sitting on the technology because it'll obviously be just as big an advantage once the US have the same capability and can fight back on an even playing field. Again, makes total sense to nullify one's own strategic advantage.
Quite funny how for someone claiming conspiracies don't exist, you need to rely so heavily on conspiracy and illogical speculative leaps in order to explain what is happening.
I see that you have now fully disbanded the alt right media conspiracy explanation for this. Great, that's progress.
Considering the leaps you've made above it seems that you are thinking more emotionally than rationally.
Put your emotions aside for a second.
Consider that in just our galaxy, there are 40 billion planets the right distance from their sun to maintain water in liquid form.
Consider further that earth is only 4 billion years old while the universe is said to be 9 billion years older than that. A civilisation travelling at 1/10th the speed of light could colonise the entire galaxy in only 100 000 years.
Consider the leap in human technology over only the last 200 years.
Now ask yourself this one simple question...
How, in the face virtually infinite potential, are you able to place limits on what is possible?
Conspiracies do exist, you are proof of that.
A newspaper could publish a false article. The article still exists, even if it is contents are false. Some people will believe the contents.
Most conspiracies are not real- artificial constructs to fill in gaps in understanding. The conspiracy contains a lot of data points, but many of these have not confirmed independently as facts, or have been intentionally manipulated to look convincing.
Bill Gates wanting to murder 80% of the world is an example. That is just manipulated data from Bill Gates when he warned that the poorest countries in the world have the fastest-growing populations and how population growth is exceeding an increase in wealth. It is totally dishonest to make up such nonsense, but some people thrive on it.
You are assuming all the claims within the articles are true. For example, the speed of the vehicles or whatever it is shown in the photos- could be totally inaccurate. All it takes is one piece of data to be wrong, and the construct does not add up.
With so many planets, of course there is a chance there is other life, but that does not mean they are here.
Have you ever heard of the Prime Directive in Star Trek? They avoid contact with any life that has developed technology but has not yet reached warp drive capability. The reason is to not interfere with natural evolution and development and change the power balance. If need be, the civilisation should be allowed to destroy themselves if there is too much conflict within them.
A planet like the earth has so many weapons, the Prime Directive would deem life here is not civilized enough to own technology that would allow them to travel across the galaxy. It would be a new guns market for your pal Trump.
The problem with your arguments and a conspiracy, in general, is that it is based on many data points which are not proven facts- with too much speculation and assumptions. Too many "ifs" is unscientific to accept as facts.
Conspiracy and conspiracy theories are not the same thing.
Data points?
Ok, between your assessment of the situation and the data from the situation itself, which do you think is missing the most data points?
By your own reasoning, your argument is vastly inferior to the one that the evidence is suggesting.
This from popular mechanics...
I guess everyone is just confused by the new form of light that VisKop discovered.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-ufo-group-officially-active-130300436.html
Ayling, have you told the Pentagon UFO group the story of you and your mom and your interstellar travel? I'm sure they'd be fascinated.
At least send them the photo of the hubcap that's not really a hubcap but a very clear photo of a real UFO.
I'll be sure to do that.
In turn, kindly bring back your buddy Viskop as he has run away from himself yet again.
The chap isn't well.
“Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.”
No Sh!t Sherlock.
Lol Viskop
Non of this may be true or all of it may be true.
Can we get past that?
The real question is, for the last time -Why is this subject now being brought out into the open by government and military for the first time in history?
Think about it.
...Ifs and buts, lol...
Ok...you really are stuck on the videos.
Let's try this.
You wake up in the morning to discover that your house alarm had been triggered during the night.
You review the CCTV footage.
You find that at exactly 03:12am a figure of a person, dressed fully in black, appears to enter your property. The precise moment that the figure moves in front of one of your garden security beams is exactly when the alarm was triggered.
Upon speaking to your neighbour, he confirms that he saw the figure of a person jump over your wall at about 03:10.
What is the natural conclusion that requires the least amount of ifs and buts?
Now what if all your home security equipment was military grade and your neighbour was the police chief?
Haha!
"Does technology even exist that can capture a moving object flying above the sea a 30,000 miles per hour"
Yes. Radar.
Do I need to explain how and why? Surely you can work that one out alone? Perhaps you should check just how reliable radars are. That may be a good place for you to start.
"30,000 miles per hour is fast... The point is that it unlikely that this UFO was going 30,000 miles per hour."
Sure, just as impossibly fast as 500km/h was to humans only 200 years ago. Keep that figure of 14 billion in the back of your mind now. I know it's hard...try!
"It is called being objective. Thinking scientifically. Trying to find rational explanations..."
What you are doing is not thinking objectively or rationally at all. To assume that a machine is broken just because you don't agree with the reading is, by all accounts, the most un-scientific approach one could take. The opposite of rational thinking.
Ah, now we arrive at the "If" where Shark has to shred his own argument about ifs and buts by saying..."What IF the radar was faulty?" and "What IF the radar team are incompetent or lying?"
Quite ironic, all of this is.
"Keep that figure of 14 billion in the back of your mind now. I know it's hard...try!"
From Wright Brothers to the moon in 67 years...and so many other things...
It wasn't moving at that speed the whole time...jeezzz...atleast do some homework.
PS, you have a couple of valid questions and remarks Snark...just the condescending and arrogant way you go about some of it ruins it....I know, "look who's talking"...but darn !
The last portion in your vid looks like satelite footage...or those ultra high recon planes...and yes, I should probably do the homework too.
Vulcan
Haha VisKop.
For the love all that is good, watch the Fravor interview on Rogan.
A highly trained fighter pilot literally explains to you what you're seeing on the screen.
If you can't tell, just by looking at that last video, that it isn't travelling at 30K/mph, then I can't help you.
You've concocted your own version of events are want me to defend them for you. What a joker.
"2. The camera is extremely far away. (e.g. a satellite on the moon...)"
Haha I'd love to know that name of the math genius that gave us that gem.
Here VisKop
He explains nicely what you're seeing in the video.
24:06 - Timestamp
Very interesting Plum, but he doesn't have a degree, so he must be stupid...we can't take him seriously...science needs to be able to explain something before we're allowed to believe it...we must toe the line...
IE
VisKop is better able to translate the FLIR footage than what a fighter squadron commander and the P entagon are.
We're dealing with a scientific mind of note here.
I'll ask again Viskop...why?
Why are they lying and why now?
Draad, Fravor does have a degree though. And masters at that...he even took astrophysics at university.
hehe
Sorry, my bad....astrophysics...Brian May has a PHD in astrophysics...but the real genius only a diploma in graphic design. ??
I also wa nt to lead a squadron called The Black Aces.
Dammit, life is unfair!