Putin’s war

Start with the overall figure. According to the new study, the Russian death toll has jumped to 66,000-88,000 as of December 31st 2023. That estimate falls within the range of recent tallies by Western intelligence agencies: the latest estimate by Britain’s Ministry of Defence stood at 70,000. Officials in America think it could be as high as 120,000 (see chart 1).

The study by Mediazona and Meduza covers only Russia. On February 25th Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president, said that 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed since Russia’s full-scale invasion; American officials have put the number at more than twice that. The confirmed death toll for Ukrainian civilians, meanwhile, is well over 10,000, with the true total believed to be far higher. All these data provide a bleak insight into the enormous toll of Russia’s invasion. Mr Putin appears undeterred by the blood on his hands, whether from enemy ranks or Russia’s own.

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Source …the Economist.

Horrible losses on both sides, but it's not Putin's war alone...he started the invasion but the war started long before that and there's always to sides in a war...I admire the bravery of the Ukrainians, but they can't win...it's a matter of time, even if America and the EU bankrupt themselves and the rest of the world with their support of Ukraine, there's no way Russia is losing this, unless more countries get actively involved...and there's always the fcn RED buttons...diplomacy is the only way to end this without the total distruction of the Ukrainian nation...I wish I was wrong, but do the simple math.

Putins war say Mozzietard. The oaf disgusts me. An outright liar. Immune to the facts and just trying to deceive anybody he can with his Globalist BS. The drat rate is roughly 10 Ukrainians to 1 Russian. The Russians have total control of the skies and far greater power in respect of Artillery etc and NO shortage of munitions etc. 

Beware the day the Rusdia s ferl threatened. They could wipe Europe and America off the map. Remember currently there is NO defence against hypersonic missiles. The US doesn't have this weapon. 

Further the Russians could bring the US to a standstill via cyber warfare. 

The above does not factor in what China, Iran and North Korea might do. Where do the other BRICS nation stand. Certainly they are not part of the Western world that is rapidly declining. 

The USA is today, thanks to actions of the Globalists, very unpopular with most of the World. 

I suggest peace talks begin immediately and Ukraine gives up territory that is Russian populated and becomes non aligned. Also the NAZIS must get the boot. 

I feel pretty sure that is the route Trump will take. 

Once the Globalist governments of Europe and and N. America have been toppled I see no reason why Russia can't become part of the West. Currently the Globalists can't abide Russia as they have not bent the knee. 

So if Russia feels threatened they have the right to push the nuclear button. Just the threat is enough? Grow up you pathetic right wing moron, nobody wants to threaten Russia. The world just doesn’t want to reward the latest dictator who has ambitions which involve invading his neighbors,

"So if Russia feels threatened they have the right to push the nuclear button"

He doesn't have the right, but he has the ability...escalating things too much might force his hand, remember he's a madman dictator...provoking him is extremely reckless...if they didn't want to threaten Russia, why were they involved in Ukraine in the first place?...This is a totally unnecessary war and the situation can be fixed easily, but there's no will for a diplomatic sollution...why? This whole thing stinks...

You bone headed moron, what do you think the West has been doing in building up the Ukraine army every since the American led coup in 2014. How about US missiles in Ukraine and the bio labs. 

How about arming Ukraine and American military specialists being in Ukraine. 

Be assured, if at any point Russia thought they are losing the war the button would be pushed and you would be vapourised. I suppose you think everybody concerned with talk of Western troops being sent to Ukraine and the rising threat of WW3 should have no concern about what the anti humanity Globalist maniacs in the White House might do in conjuction with the Globalist maniacs in Europe.

You are a liar and not even a smart one. You should have real used by now your Globalist lies are getting trashed and people have awakened and are rising  up like never before.

Never in human history has a group like the Globalists ever been around to threaten humanity like you scumbags do. Very fortunately the agendas of the WEF Globalists are now widely known. I am hopeful you and your buddies will be crushed. Crushed means crushed. 

So Draad, US military aid to Russia …what’s the threat, a Russian invasion. You can’t seriously believe that…nor does Russia. Its only effect was to allow Ukraine to run their own affairs without being totally intimidated. Putin was going to take action at some point anyway, arming Ukraine proved to be very much needed.

How Putin chooses to see things…he’s not stupid, just totally self serving.

but it's not Putin's war alone.

Putin's nothing more than a gangster, the world's biggest villain since Hitler.

Condemned by 143 nations, supported by a mere handful of despots.

Lol. the growing number of Zbots wanting us to believe that they're the good guys.

They're wrong & imo. lower than shark-shit.

Fk em  ....................evil-minded fascist oinks supporting a regime that has sweet f.a.on offer re world peace, prosperity, poverty or advances in medical science etc.

What country leads the world in medical innovation? USA.

Russia ? Sweet f.a. ............... except to commit mass murder & genocide based on the mythological historic interpretations of their f'wit leader.

Btw. who's stepped up to deliver aid to Gaza?

Arab states, Russia  China,...............................  ??

Btw. who's stepped up to deliver aid to Gaza?

Kinda bizarre they are doing that when they also supplied the weapons being used to bomb and blockade Gaza as well though.

I read estimates that over 500,000 Russians have been injured or killed.
Some death estimates are over 200,000 dead.

To the deluded apologists like Draad,

1. NATO exists because of Russia
2. NATO was starting to fade away with no new members- until recent events,
3. Russia was always an imperialistic country, and still is today.

This is a plain old land grab.
Most wars have economic motives, with false pretext motives for PR. (e.g. Ukranian Nazi, NATO expansion).

Energy sales make up over 40% of Russian GDP. Putin knows that clean energy will continue to improve which will push the price of dirty energy down. Putin's Russia can't innovate like many countries, so its only solution is military conquest to take over other countries

If Putin has a grievance with NATO, then why attack Ukraine?

Some of Putin's conditions for the peace treaty with Ukraine are
1. Ukraine must have no army
2. Ukraine must not join NATO
3. Former Soviet states like Poland should not be allowed in NATO. NATO must reduce back to what it was in the 1960's.

Simply, Putin wants to incorporate Ukraine and make it part of Russia before attacking former Soviet States to absorb them into Russia

Kinda bizarre they are doing that when they also supplied the weapons being used to bomb and blockade Gaza as well though.

Undeniably so ................... between a rock & hard place.  How powerful the Jewish lobby?

Mozart

I have corrected  your above statement :to bring  it to what the situation really is-

So Draad, US military aid to Russia …what’s the threat, a Russian invasion. You can’t seriously believe that…nor does Russia. Its only effect was to allow the USA controlled Govnment is to run their own affairs on the basis prescribed to them "

Let me explain to you something else.    Putin was not interested in attacking Ukraine and repeatedly participated in peace negotiations - the USA wanted to use Ukraine to conquer Moscow and believed that  with  the modern armaments the USA would provide the Ukrainians will win the war against a poor Russian Army with its primitive weaponry  and in the process cause the downfall of the Russian Govenment.      That was the American dream as to the Ukraine issue -a huge miscalculation if you ask me.       .    

We'll see, this war won't be a 20 year afair like Afghanistan...it will end sooner and we will know

Bullies need to be dealt with...goving the geek a pear of boxing gloves is only prolonging the suffering...someone with the power to do so must force the fight to stop and make sure the bully doesn't do it again...ATM the supposed "adults" is cheering on the fight and wathing the poor geek get the sh!t beaten out of him.

I get that Putin did this...but something is off with how the world is responding to this.

Undeniably so ................... between a rock & hard place.  How powerful the Jewish lobby?

I'd careful with using the term Jewish lobby, people don't realize its often used in lieu of the classic international Jewish conspiracy.

..people with influence use it...

After successful negotiations ends the war, Putin & his kgb- mafioso will stand trial for their murderous, genocidal war crimes.

BB

Who is going to arrest Putin and make him stand trial?   The fact is the war was a huge miscalculation on the part of the USA.    They wanted the war and openly said what they expect to happen if the Russians lose the war.   What the Democratic Party wants to do is wars, and more wars - since the Armaments Industry and through kickbacks politicians and bureaucrats supports the war pandemic.    

Listen to the following  real comments of Senator Hawley about the Ukraine War - he hed what the Senate has been told in a briefing:-

. https://www.c-span.org/video/?530601-102/senator-hawley-ukraine-briefing.

Mozart

In the middle of Covid  - the most ridiculous BS I have head for years.  LMAO   .:.     

This from January 18 2022….read it Russia bots:

‘WASHINGTON – Intelligence agencies monitoring Russian cyber operations against Ukraine believe Russia’s pattern of activity could signal a ground invasion of Ukraine within the next 30 days, the White House said Friday.

The new time line is the latest sign of how imminent the Biden administration believes a Russian attack against Ukraine could be, and how urgent its effort to negotiate a peaceful settlement has become.

In response to NBC’s questions at briefings this week, officials declined to say whether the U.S. would arm Ukrainian militias to counter a Russian invasion. But now they are signaling to the Russians that such a plan is under consideration.

The U.S. has pledged to respond to any military incursion with unprecedented economic sanctions on members of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle. But that could trigger retaliatory moves by Moscow against the West – up to and including cuts in the energy that flows from Russia to the rest of the world. Russia is the largest supplier of oil, natural gas and coal to Europe, experts say.

A senior U.S. official and a former U.S. official confirmed to NBC News late Friday that the Biden administration is considering arming Ukrainian insurgents who would in essence fight a guerilla war against Russian forces if Putin invades Ukraine.’

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So BEFORE Russia invaded the US warned that there would be individual financial consequences. Why if you wanted the war would you be threatening to punish the person who started it?

But here’s the telling phrase, Biden was considering arming Ukranian insurgents to fight a guerrilla war if the invasion took place.

There was no thought this could be  prolonged, all the military advisors were predicting Russia would roll over Ukraine and the West was already planning the aftermath.

Nobody wanted this war, particularly the US who thought Putin would emerge as a stronger winner….nobody except Vladimir Putin and he is responsible for the unnecessary deaths of hundreds of thousands and the destruction of many cities.

ccl

Brilliant.

Mozart 

I am quoting the following: in dicating  ymou are totally incoherent:- - 

*    In the middle of COVID the USA was plotting to have the Ukraine conquer Moscow. Got it!

I quote you:

Let me explain to you something else.    Putin was not interested in attacking Ukraine and repeatedly participated in peace negotiations - the USA wanted to use Ukraine to conquer Moscow and believed that  with  the modern armaments the USA would provide the Ukrainians will win the war against a poor Russian 

The Ukranian war started during Covid, close to the peak of infections and clearly you thought the US was plotting to conquer Moscow.

Are you seeing the picture yet?

Maybe you have a point.   The  USA  funded and controlled the gain-of-function research at th e Wuhan Bio-lab where the Covid virus originated  and the U SA built a bio-lab in Ukraine in Odessa where the gain-of-function research were undertaken because the usage of Wuhan became toxic and so he dangerous research was moved to Odessa.   

He's condemned the war numerous times...he's just not putting all the blame on the Ruskies.. and seems to think US and NATO meddling forced Putin to invade...which is nonsense. Russia is the invader, so 90% of the blame is on them...the domestic disputes inside Donbas was nothing in comparison to the invasion...a lame excuse...I still see no logically justifiable reason for the invasion.

Well said.

yes, but that doesn't mean more couldn't be done to stop the fighting...the political will to stop it immediately seems to be missing.

ouMaaik has never voiced any criticism of Putin ................. 2 years of warfare & not a single admonishment ...................... the monster's beyond critique, un-fkng-believable

One authoritarian fascist vark enthusiastically supporting the other.

Sies.

Recorded documents and not propaganda BS will prove it is Biden\s war,   

SB

Problem is  I believe in proven facts - not propaganda BS.    I do not defend Putin = I jus t  deny propaganda BS.