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Quick poll….would you rather live in Russia, China, Iran or the USA

Started by Mozart46 REPLIES1,080 VIEWS· 08 Mar 2023, 02:01
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2023, 02:01
#1
08 Mar 2023, 02:01#1
I’ll start by saying I’d rather  not live, if it had to be in Russia, China or Iran.
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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
08 Mar 2023, 02:08
#2
08 Mar 2023, 02:08#2

USA

Iran would come in last probably.


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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
08 Mar 2023, 02:39
#3
08 Mar 2023, 02:39#3

The USA would be best, especially a coastline place.

Iran would have the most Beeno1s, so I would skip that. Abrahamic fundamentalists.
Russia would be the 2nd worst. 

China would probably be the best place out of the authoritarian regimes.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
08 Mar 2023, 02:39
#4
08 Mar 2023, 02:39#4

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
08 Mar 2023, 02:54
#5
08 Mar 2023, 02:54#5

Living in China, Russia & especially Iran would be a form of slavery.

I was born in Woodstock,  so Woodstock  NY. or New Orleans for the music & food.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
08 Mar 2023, 03:06
#6
08 Mar 2023, 03:06#6
New York is the wicked Babylon of today's world. Nice choice Blib. 
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
08 Mar 2023, 03:12
#7
08 Mar 2023, 03:12#7
ccl.


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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
08 Mar 2023, 03:15
#8
08 Mar 2023, 03:15#8

Then u must be a supertroll Blib. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2023, 05:54
#9
08 Mar 2023, 05:54#9

Under present conditions I would not live in the USA where criminals and even murderers are protected by the State and law and order has been abolished.by the US Government - neither in any of the other countries mentioned.

A silly question - since the countries mentioned all have serious negatives and there are much better options.     I would prefer Austria and even Hungary as a resident country if I have a choice of an alternative residence of choice - they are not destroying and damaging art and culture - as well as recorded history in favor of the Woke Culture.              

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Mar 2023, 07:27
#10
08 Mar 2023, 07:27#10

Texas...I suspect the Summers in Florida might be a bit too much for my taste...California's weather would probably suit me better, but they've got other problems...way too expensive to live there.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2023, 07:44
#11
08 Mar 2023, 07:44#11

In the USA I would prefer South Carolina.     

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
08 Mar 2023, 08:00
#12
08 Mar 2023, 08:00#12

We would have DumbMike in Russia pulling the cart like Boxer in Animal Farm to save money on energy. Then we could send him to jail where he will have to sign up with the Wagner Group which is 1 day of training with a spade and a gun without ammunition.


 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Mar 2023, 08:05
#13
08 Mar 2023, 08:05#13

If it wasn't for the ANC, Die Kaapse Wynland...great climate, people and environment in general.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2023, 08:22
#14
08 Mar 2023, 08:22#14

Stupid idiot - SB I clearly said none of the choices Mozart gave - and definitely not Russia.   I preferred Austria or Hungary.    By the way Idiotspeaker have you ever been to Russia - I was.  Through my life I met many Russians - they were highly-cultured, civilized and friendly people. 

I am not an idealogue and braindead idiot like you are. 

Agree with Draad though for living in the Western Cape - remember I was living in Durban and Tinley Manor for many years - and moving from there to Riversdale was like moving to a different country.

By the way Draad we had since Sunday had more than 25%  of the  annual average rainfall for the year.   Somewhat surprising in March and the weather was cooler than normal.   Wonder whether it will be the result of global warming according to the fanatic idealogues on site?          

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Mar 2023, 10:01
#15
08 Mar 2023, 10:01#15
In the USA but with Iranian women…
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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
08 Mar 2023, 10:31
#16
08 Mar 2023, 10:31#16

Under present conditions I would not live in the USA where criminals and even murderers are protected by the State and law and order has been abolished.

Mike you're aware that The Purge was a movie right, n ot a documentary!

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
08 Mar 2023, 10:50
#17
08 Mar 2023, 10:50#17

ouPlum, bietjie problems, you dunno what they look like with all of their protective wrappings, & then, there's Maria Sharapova ................................

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
08 Mar 2023, 11:37
#18
08 Mar 2023, 11:37#18

China for me, spent a lot of time there, day to day living is no different to America, NZ etc. I have mates that have lived there for many years and have no intentions of moving back to their home countries. (no they are not commies as most work for large international companies.)

Also living as an expat is different to being a citizen, If I had to become a citizen I would pick America based on civil rights (and then move to China)

I think some people still see China as it was in the 50s. 99% living in poverty doing manual labour in the rice paddy and everyone walks around in a standard brown uniform being told what to do every minute of the day.

Cannot comment on Russia as I have never been, Iran I have never visited (nor do I want to) is a big fat no as who would want to live in a country controlled by religious fanatics.


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
08 Mar 2023, 11:44
#19
08 Mar 2023, 11:44#19

According to opinion polling conducted by Axios of 9 countries all but China itself prefer America to be the leading superpower over China.

https://www.axios.com/2022/06/16/countries-prefer-us-china-superpower-poll

According to Pew research conducted back in October 2018 most countries preferred America to be the worlds leader power over China, with Asian countries showing particularly large majorities in favor of US leadership.

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/10/01/most-prefer-that-u-s-not-china-be-the-worlds-leading-power/

Unsurprisingly favorable views of Russia among many countries has also declined

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/ratings-for-russia-drop-to-record-lows/

As well as that favorable views of Putin and Russia have also sharply declined among European right wing populist parties which traditionally had a more favorable view of Russia.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/09/23/among-european-right-wing-populists-favorable-views-of-russia-and-putin-are-down-sharply/


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
08 Mar 2023, 11:56
#20
08 Mar 2023, 11:56#20

My cousin living in the UK married a Chinese women. From my understanding she would never consider moving back to China due to the lack of freedom. I have no issues with Chinese people and culture and wouldn't mind visiting China, but I've have no desire to ever live in a country run by such an authoritarian government.

I think some people still see China as it was in the 50s. 99% living in poverty doing manual labour in the rice paddy and everyone walks around in a standard brown uniform being told what to do every minute of the day.

Well from what I believe parts of rural China are still very under developed and poor.

As for Russia. Again I'd never want to live in such a country but I wouldn't mind visiting St. Petersburg for a day off a cruise ship, but I guess that isn't going to be on the cards for some time.

Iran I'd have no desire to live or visit. Though having said that I did see famous American travel writer Rick Steve's had a show about his visit to his Iran and he did find the people very friendly and their some area's that where quite charming.

America, well it's not that I prefer it over home or some European countries, buts its by far the best of the 4 options Moz asked about.

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XaviPro1,924 posts
08 Mar 2023, 12:41
#21
08 Mar 2023, 12:41#21

Arizona for myself.

Purple state, AZ Cardinals, The Grand Canyon, Scottsdale, the Waste Management Open. Borders California Nevada and New Mexico and close enough to Texas. Also after 14 years in the UK I could do with a break from the rain.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
08 Mar 2023, 12:49
#22
08 Mar 2023, 12:49#22

Blo

T here are about 5 women that a man sees during his life, that you remember forever...and it doesn't matter whether you knew them or if you only briefly interacted with them...

2 of my 5 are Iranian. With one of them, my girlfriend at the time said "It's okay, I'm looking too."

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2023, 14:17
#23
08 Mar 2023, 14:17#23

Stav

Maybe you are not aware that the murder rates in the USA has increased massively in the USA - sometimes by 200% in some of the more dangerous  cities.   Fact is a city like Chicago is the most dangerous city in the Americas - both North and South.   Then we have the case that shoplifting and house break-ins are not regarded as crimes and when police are arresting people for criminal activities they are set free the next day by the  Prosecuting authorities. 

 A sick example was the 2020 riots in the USA organized by the Democratic Party that the media you believe in claimed was peaceful.  There were 46 murders by rioters- over 1 200 police staff members were seriously injured mostly by Molotov cocktails and more than $2,5 billion in damages caused by arson and looting.   Despite restrictions the Police arrested 1 500 rioters.    The moment the Biden Administration took over all 1 500 criminals were released and that included murder suspects.   The new Government was also not interested in stopping local drives to defund the Police.     The situation in the USA has let to a flight of hundreds of  thousands of people fleeing from California and Democratic controlled cities in the USA to States like Florida and Texas.   You are obviously not aware of anything since the Media is quiet about it because it could sour the image of the Democratic Party  

I agree with you about the opinion polls in 9 countries wanting the USA as the premier power country in the world.    I believe also most USA citizens would prefer that,   But is it still possible under the present corrupt regime?  Biden is up to his neck under control by China due to corruption involving him and his son.

One example is that Biden through his son sold 1 million barrels oil from the National Strategic Oil Reserve to a Chinese Company reducing the Reserve to the lowest level since 1946.   He also used the Reserve  to try and force down petrol prices in the USA - so the USA is in a desperate state and any war would be basically unsustainable.   

The second problem is that the US Army has become a severely weakened  army.    The flop started when 60 000 soldiers refused to take the Covid jabs and most of them was driven out of the army.   The disastrous withdrawal  from Afghanistan also had a serious detrimental effect.   The problem was that in the past was that recruiting of most of the soldiers came from rural areas and small cities.   The Biden Regime has decided that there should be a quota system iro homosexuals, women and races represented in recruiting - so the result is they could not recruit enough army personnel and is at least 25% short in recruiting targets.    Aside from that the recruits was to be  indoctrinated with crucial elements of the Woke Culture - like redefined history myths.   To think that that would give fighting ability by soldiers is a dream that would never be achievable.  

The fact is there are actual beliefs that the present army has only about 50 000 fighting soldiers left.    The present leaders in the Army is a total disaster.   It is a fact that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a real disaster showing incompetence by the Army Command and subsequent confessions that the Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff is in direct telephonic contact with the head of the Chinese Army is really unbelievable.

The above being the case the world has become increasingly unstable over the last two years and China is just waiting till a new low in the USA military is reached and their oil reserve still going down further - before they attack Taiwan and South Korea.   Once those two countries are incorporated into China and North Korea respectively the world may wake up and realize that the USA is destroying itself through a totally corrupt and incompetent regime following policies prescribed by the Ultra Rich Americans with massive financial relationship with China.    

So whatever the people express an opinion poll is based on hope - but totally unrealistic in the present scenario. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2023, 15:05
#24
08 Mar 2023, 15:05#24
70’s Clifton in their prime would give the Iranian girls a run for their money Plum.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Mar 2023, 15:25
#25
08 Mar 2023, 15:25#25

It depends which America you are talking about. I would never dream of living in one of America's large Democrat run hell holes where crime is rampant, decay is evident, poep on the sidewalks, needles, homeless folk etc. Then you have the moral filth and perversion to put up with large taxes and frankly cities that just don't work.

I would much prefer to live in Russia rather than these corrupt American cities. The Russian people I keep hearing are friendly and decent and where LGBT and woke BS are not tolerated. 

If you talk about the far better run Red States and rural areas its a different story. A state like Oklahoma seems great.

There is a risk that due to election rigging the US may collapse and become a total tyranny. So I would defer my choice until after the 2024 election. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2023, 17:03
#26
08 Mar 2023, 17:03#26

So you would prefer to live in Moscow than LA….got it. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2023, 17:05
#27
08 Mar 2023, 17:05#27

Clever…..30 years ago you were convinced Apartheid is the answer. Twenty years ago you were convinced the ANC is the answer. Now you think Russia is the answer.

Have you ever considered getting some adult advice?

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
09 Mar 2023, 08:26
#28
09 Mar 2023, 08:26#28

Lol

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Mar 2023, 16:11
#29
09 Mar 2023, 16:11#29

Why are there so many Russians and Iranians in London, if Russia and Iran are viable options?

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
09 Mar 2023, 16:41
#30
09 Mar 2023, 16:41#30

Imagine living in Philedelphia. 

Imagine bring your kids up up zombie animal-drug city.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Mar 2023, 18:57
#31
09 Mar 2023, 18:57#31

I do really not know why you ask the question you asked about the three States mentioned.   Most of the members have never been to any of the three countries mentioned  and the only thing they know about those countries is what they got from the media.   In other words you should have asked them for there opinions of the people are on what there opinions of the countries concern and if they like to stay in the countries mentioned.

In any event I said I would not live in the USA - and neither of the other 3 countries mentioned    I went on to say I would like to live in Austria or Hunga ry.

Unlike the normal lot I have been to Russia and gave my true opinion of the ordinary people in Russia and other Russians I met through the years.   So maybe I know more about Russians than the other members.    CF made some comments about China that indicates how little most of us knows about that country and I appreciate his informative honesty.

As to your comment about me living in Moscow - I was in that city and hugely impressed with the fact that the people were friendly and helpful and you can walk into the Kremlin and the  gardens and buildings inside the fortress, provided you pay to view the inside of the buildings - all a national treasures - even the Communists protected it.      Despite the fact that there are better security than you find in Cities in the USA     My answer is simple I would not survive the first  winter I spent in Russia.   

Now back to it  - I would not want to live in any City under the control of the Democrats - but did say if in the USA I will prefer South Carolina.                    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Mar 2023, 19:16
#32
09 Mar 2023, 19:16#32

Yes just imagine being in Philadelphia:


Longwood Gardens


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Mar 2023, 19:19
#33
09 Mar 2023, 19:19#33

’Hungery’….you want to live there but you can’t even get the name right.

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SebPro2,680 posts
15 Mar 2023, 12:42
#34
15 Mar 2023, 12:42#34

It amazes one that people who have never lived or traveled there make the most noise.

Like some commenting on a rugby game they never watched or "experts" on the scriptures that never bothered to read it completely.

They never read history or geography books...they trust "others" and never do honest research.

Just pawns manipulated by emotions of fear, hatred, self-centredness, fragile egos and zero humility.

Empty barrel trolls making the most noise and pots calling the kettle black...hypocrites of the worst kind.

They only listen to one-sided views and cannot understand the context of the other man's because they are too lazy to go there.

 https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2023.03/6410b771203027361c48141f.mp4?download=1


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 Mar 2023, 12:57
#35
15 Mar 2023, 12:57#35

What a pile of sanctimonious, judgemental, attention-seeking and ignorant crap.

Listen Tit, I don't need to have visited Iran to know that I wouldn't want to live there.

You and ou Maaik take every single opportunity to remind us that you've been to Russia so you both consider yourselves to be experts . . . problem is, you're both such dull-witted and brainwashed morons that you have zero credibility and your stupid opinions are worth nothing.

I'd sooner take advice on whether to live in Russia from someone who's never set foot in the place than from a biased, preachy, stupid old drunkard like you.


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SebPro2,680 posts
15 Mar 2023, 13:26
#36
15 Mar 2023, 13:26#36

Obviously struck a raw nerve...your emotional cowardly reaction proves a few points .


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Mar 2023, 13:26
#37
15 Mar 2023, 13:26#37

One of two towns in CA.....La Jolla or Santa Barbara.



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SebPro2,680 posts
15 Mar 2023, 13:51
#38
15 Mar 2023, 13:51#38
Some things were perfectly clear
Seen with the vision of youth
No doubts and nothing to fear
I claimed the corner on truth
These days it's harder to say
"I know what I'm fighting for"
My faith is falling away
I'm not that sure anymoreShades of grey wherever I go
The more I find out, the less that I know
Black and white is how it should be
But shades of grey are the colors I see.Once there were trenches and walls
And one point of every view
Fight 'til the other man falls
Kill him before he kills you
These days the edges are blurred
I'm old and tired of war
I hear the other man's words
I'm not that sure anymoreShades of grey are all that I find
When I look to the enemy line
Black and white was so easy for me
But shades of grey are the colors I see.Now with the wisdom of years
I try to reason things out
And the only people I fear
Are those who never have doubts
Save us all from arrogant men
And all the causes they're for
I won't be righteous again

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
15 Mar 2023, 15:29
#39
15 Mar 2023, 15:29#39

So, the Russian Bot has returned...

It must be Great to have God on your side.
You are always right, so no need to provide logic or proof when thinking or speaking.
Faith is enough. You are special because God has chosen you...

The mainstream is wrong, even though it is fine to follow the outdated mainstream reality when religion was still a factor. 

To follow mainstream, and then a new mainstream takes over it must be frustrating.
Like sheep that graze every day, then being told they should graze at night instead. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Mar 2023, 17:36
#40
15 Mar 2023, 17:36#40

‘ And the only people I fear

Are those who never have doubts
Save us all from arrogant men
And all the causes they're for’
Perfect description of Putin
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