Rednecks may prevent herd immunity in the US

The US is probably going to start offering the vaccine to children because the conspiratorial far-right refuses to get vaccinated. 

A certain % of the population needs to get vaccinated to ensure herd immunity, but the simpletons would prefer to believe in the Mark of the Beast, etc.

Cowards that would rather believe in stories that are at best for kindergarten children, at worst religious globalists trying to establish one world order. 

They put their simplistic and irrational fears ahead of everyone else because they are selfish and only have a self-preserving nature. If an extreme Christian gets vaccinated, they believe that due to Mark of the Beast, they are banned from heaven. 

So their own individual salvation is more important than everyone's lives here on Earth...

Bigotry comes in all shapes and sizes and has many faces.

Do you never stop being a total brain wreck - Sharkshit?

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The cartoon is a lie.    There is nothing preventing people from being vaccinated  and no organizing people  to resist vaccination,      

This is typical propaganda lies associated with liars in the  media.    Much of the vaccine now used to vaccinate people were produced under the Trump administration anyway,              

What the hell has religion got to do with anti-vaccine issues.   You are totally deluded - but that si to be expected from a farcical idiot like you.     

Horse sh!t.

So Draad if kids were getting vaccinated in South Africa, would you take the vaccine? 
A yes or no will suffice. 

The problem is that you have go ne bananas on this issue..   No scientist has claimed that the so-called "vaccine"  prevents the transfer of Covid from human to human - thus it is not  a real vaccine, but rather a preventative measure to restrict the impact of the virus in case of infected people.   

There  are other problems as well.   Since the Chinese has developed the virus in the Wuhan laboratory from where it escaped somehow or other,    there has been variants of the virus all over the world  and the latest one has been in India, where thousands of people are dying  om a daily basis.     There is no indication that the India variant can be treated or has a positive impact  on the latest variant 

There is another problem in vaccine issues in India as well which has nothing to do with religion,    A vaccine program sponsored  by the Gates Foundation on polio in India went awry   when there were serious  side effects that impacted on thousands of people  and resulted in a  Supreme Court case  at present under consideration in Delhi,    That case gave vaccines in India a bad reputation and  likely has an effect on people  insofar as the latest vaccine issues are concerned. 

The side-effects of vaccine programs in Africa  was similar  to what  happened in India and as a consequence    some  Governments  in Africa have  banned continuation  of vaccine programs,    That in itself  has given vaccines in Africa a bad name  and again that has nothing to do  with religion at all.                              

There's no way I will subject myself or my kids to an experimental drug/vaccine. It has nothing to do with my religion.  I don't believe it's the mark of the beast or some sort of conspiracy. I believe it's a rush-job-vax and I don't want to risk possible long term side effects. I'll rather take my chances with the virus...

I will re-evaluate this stance when the vaccine is actually available here or if the data changes in the future. I'm not anti-vax, I'm just naturally opposed to herd mentality. I also think high risk cases and people above 70 should definitely take it. Maybe even people above 60 too.

A good and sensible stance Draad and answer...posters tend to make inaccurate assumptions  on other posters values because they don't have the foggiest clue, that are well off the mark.

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This isn't the "Mark of the Brast" yet, but it sure as heck looks like a trial run for it ...so easy to pull it off if you realize how much our reality changed in just over a year...

Straight from the horse's mouth. That is all but one example. 

An example of what Idiot?   People who think  logically about issues should be examples  for open-mindedness should lead the world.

In the first instance the resent vaccines does  not prevent transmission for Covid,    So who are affected by  the virus when it comes to serious illness and  death?   The older people and people \with morbidities are threatened,    Fatalities  amongst children survive affection and do not suffer from serious illness or death unless there are  already suffering from serious illnesses.

So why should children be vaccinated  at all?    

By the way the side\effects from the vaccines have not been checked properly and experts worldwide has stated they are worried about that deficiency,   I refer above to side-effects emanating from other vaccines that  hare  been in use for years already, - that resulted in  claims against the producers and court actions  because of side-effects,   If there  are problems  with older vaccines what about the Covid  vaccines  - which have not been subjected to any researh about side\effects.?

Only a fool will think about the situation and  n ot endanger the future and lives of their children by using a substance that has never been subjected for testing of side-effects.                              

Bill Gates's daughter has been vaccinated, and I doubt that neither he or she is stupid. 

Anyway, the children's angle is just a straw man argument. You don't have kids, so you can exactly use that argument anyway. 

I also said on this thread that adults should go first. The whole point of this thread was that because anti-vaxxers are not on board, it means that to achieve herd immunity kids would have to take the vaccine. 

If you believe kids should not take it, that is fine- but it does not excuse you. 

Now that's funny...thanks Blob.

LOL...it's indeed funny Hahaha.

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Since when is Bill Gates a vaccine expert?   I know he has a huge financial interest in vaccine production and make billions out of it - and then donate part of his profits to vaccinate people in poor countries,

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Snarkhole, you got vaxed yet? And your kids, or don't you have any?

How come  side effects in the longer term is not possible?    In India in the  court case I mentioned  the main problem of  side-effects that came out years later was that thousands  of women became barren and could not conceive children after the vaccine treatment against polio was given to them/

Side effects could emerge  long after treatment  and the absence of  studies on potential kinger term problems should be a priority  and should be ongoing and that may yet produce alarming results.      

"Side effects could emerge  long after treatment  and the absence of  studies on potential kinger term problems should be a priority  and should be ongoing and that may yet produce alarming results. "

Yes Maaik, the real elephant in the room...and I know that it is supposed to be a low risk, but how do you measure risking your life or the life of your kids...and that risk for a disease which would hardly affect them if they get it? 

41% of Republicans refuse to get vaccinated. What fools...

Everyone over the age of 12 is now eligible for the vaccine. The presenter mentions that this would potentially impact the next election because there will be fewer voters on the right.   

...untill the mid to longer term side effects kick in...

There are 3 doctors at the practice my family frequents...all 3 of them under 45 yo...one of the refused to take the vaccine because he's "not comfortable" with the available data yet...I suppose he's a redneck too? Knows less about medicine than Snarkhole and Rudeneck?

Snark, I don't know if he's religious,  but the other two who took it actually are...one of them is our home GP...he said he barely felt any effects of tbe jab....he has lost quite a few patients to covid over the past year, so he doesn't want to take any chances. 

PS, unless you have scientific qualifications,  better than a doctors degree, you are in no position to pass judgment on a doctor's credentials...marketing is not really an empirical science...1st year medicine is probably the most difficult entry level science discipline...hard core physics, chemistry and math...