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Russian Forces Take Heavily Fortified Town of Maryinka in Biggest Triumph Since Bakhmut

Started by Beeno143 REPLIES790 VIEWS· 26 Dec 2023, 09:24
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
28 Dec 2023, 03:27
#41
28 Dec 2023, 03:27#41

Vladimir Putin

stated on February 24, 2022 in an address to the nation announcing the attack on Ukraine: Ethnic Russians face “genocide perp etrated by the Kyiv regime.” 

Vladimir Putin repeats false claim of genocide in Ukraine

Vladimir Putin repeats false claim of genocide in Ukraine

If Your Time is short
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin/putin-repeats-long-running-claim-genocide-ukraine/
  • Despite multiple claims of a Ukrainian genocide against ethnic Russians, there is no evidence to support it.

  • International bodies that include Russian representatives report that civilian deaths have plummeted since 2014.

  • Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. relied on misleading and outdated evidence to back the claim.

See the sources for this fact-check

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin/putin-repeats-long-running-claim-genocide-ukraine/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin/putin-repeats-long-running-claim-genocide-ukraine/The Poynter Institute

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
28 Dec 2023, 03:54
#42
28 Dec 2023, 03:54#42

Beansht4Brns...........Russia is a Saint compared to Zelensky and his masters

He undoubtedly is within your evil fascist phoney wannabe Christian sect.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Dec 2023, 05:02
#43
28 Dec 2023, 05:02#43

BB\

There were mass murder cases in the Ukraine by the  Asov Battalian in 2015  in Mariopol and Odessa  leaving more than 2000 deaths reported to the UN, whereupon the said battalion was graded by the UN as a terrorist and mecenary organization.  

The other issue was the stated Ukraine  policy that Russian culture and usage of Russian by people in Ukraine should be wiped out through ethnic cleansing if they refuse to use the Ukraine language and culture even at home. 

To my mind neither of the two can be interpreted as  representing pr esent genocide - the second issue could however turn into genocide. if left to the Asov Battalion the UN listed as a mercenary and terrorist organization. is used against Russian speaking people in future.  

So I do not agree with Putin on the issue of present genocide - but there is indeed a real chance that the policy of the Ukraine regime to threaten Russian speaking people in Ukraine can lead to genocide - ehtnioc cleansing is the stated Ukraine policy - but that does not mean that ethnoc cleansing cannot result in future genocide.   .   .      .       .  

  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Dec 2023, 05:48
#44
28 Dec 2023, 05:48#44

Stav

"Your missing the point. Oil production in the US is close to record levels, yet currently Russian oil prices are not that low.  Why because the price of global oil isn't controlled just by what the US does on its own. Ultimately supply and demand determine the cost of oil not production on its own. It undermines your argument that Biden could of crippled the Russian economy in response to the invasion by increasing production production to tank the cost of Russian oil. A.k.a you where looking for a reason to shift some of blame on Biden/The West."

Th cxlose to ecod lvcels is a lie spead by the Biden Regime.   By 2019 the US ecoinomy was booming and the USA was producing enough oil to be self-sufficient and importing of oil was not needed to meet US requirements and ws not importing oil at all - nither were they using the US S trategic oil reserve at all.

The position at present is that the USA must import oil to meet present requirements in an economy not booming and is sudffering from inflation that compared to 2020 is at about 20%,   The usa Strategicv Oil reseve is down to a level it would not last 2 weeks in tehc ase of a war situation.

It is obvious that the stats provided is manipulated by the Biden Regime.   Oil imports is the main reasson why the federal debt in just under three  years inceased by over $10 trillion.   

The other issue is that it cost billions to drill for oil and the US G overnment does not guarantee that the oil companies would not be destroyed if they spent that kind of money and the usage is effects of the Greens policy of the US Government kicks in.   So while oil usage cause existing wells to dry up there is no real growth in drilling for oil in other areas. to maintain the level of production at preset needed in the USA.   The whole issue si dishonest - Biden is in fact fighting against using local oil based on his Green policy - the USA is importing oil from foreign countries to prevent further damage to the USA Economy and then claiming their own Gn [oliy is working.            

Take for instacne food production on farms in the USA where petrol and diesle usage on fams where those products effect  inut costs on a major scale.   The oher factor irelating to such production and input costs is fertilizers.   The latter wa totally depndent on imports from Russia and China.   Since the latter was a threat to food production on farms Biden on the quiet dropped fertilizer imports from Russia - but the Russias increased the price asked for such fertilizers by 400%.    

The impact costs of fuel and fertiizers resuled in mos farmers havong to cuit inut costs by a margin that would elad to production capacity limited to betwen 25 and 30% food shortages will soon hit US stores again and food inflaion already combined at 20% plus since 2020 will increase by a further at least 25%, in other words more than the present 49 million people will become food insecuire in future.

You repeat Biden propaganda - but it has holes bigger than the Kimberley Mine hole in dealing wth that one.   Bluntly put - the Biden Regime lied about it and you fell for the lie.   In any event it is also not reflecting the impact of inflation on oil poduction and that reduce the production level compared to what it was in 2019.   It is further confirmed that despite all kinds of statistics provided by the Biden regime to the corntrary,  accoding to opinion polls only 26% of the voters rate Biden as doing a good job on the economy of the USA and oil played a major role when it comes to the USA economy.      

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