Some EU countries reconsidering using Russian Gas until a new supplier is available.

The gas sanctions have not worked. The goal was to cause the Russian GDP to decrease, but instead, it has caused a global recession. 

High energy prices have reduced trade and caused inflation.
Russia has made up for its loss in sales, with a higher price tag. 
Other countries have purchased at reduced rates than the current wholesale rates. 

Some EU countries are considering using Putin's Gas. 

Using Russian gas again, may end the global recession by bringing energy prices back to where they were.

Given Russia is not being impacted, it might be a good idea.  Especially if a new set of sanctions can be used to replace the energy ones. 

By the start of next year, there will be more gas suppliers available to the EU. Then Russia will no longer be needed. 
The contracts only run to the end of the year, so they will not be renewed. 

The price of energy will go back to where it was when there is more supply, and cheaper green options will become available in the short to medium term.  

"By the start of next year, there will be more gas suppliers available to the EU."

Who?

Draad

By the USA - but then the USA would have the same problem at home insofar as gas availability is concerned and the prices charged will be prohibitive.   Anither source for inflation in the EU countries.           

Norway as well.

Norway has  enough gas resources  to provide the whole  of the EU with gas?   In the case of the USA idiocy reigned supreme as per  normally expected from the rotten  Biden Regime.    Shipping of gas is not  only expensive it is also more dangerous than piping it.    For instance  the closing of  the construction of the Keystone oil pipeline added massively to the cost of oil transport  in the USA by vehicle and is a major contributor to the petrol price increases in the USA and the resultant inflation.    As far as I am aware Norway has no pipeline linkage to the EU countries - even of they have  the reserves. 

The same applies to the massive off-shore gas resources in  the off-shore Mozambique  and SA  coastlines  is bedevilled by the -

*    terrorist attacks on installations with the resultant South African  troops deployed to deal with protection of the necessary infrastructure already built and the workers - predominanrtly from SA working on construction in the relevant area; and\

*     the constant court cases against exploration and provision of  the required infrastructure  development raised by the greenies in the case of the South African off shore reserves.

Norway has  enough gas resources  to provide the whole  of the EU with gas?

No it doesn't but it is a major gas supplier already supplying 25% of the EU's gas supply and it's expanding its gas fields and increasing its supply to Europe.

Its interesting to note that US LNG imports to the EU have already overtaken the amount of Russian piped gas imports.

The EU has other suppliers as well such as Qata r and Algeria.

Shipping of gas is not  only expensive it is also more dangerous than piping it.

Its more expensive, which is why Europe choose to use Russian gas. Not sure its particularly more dangerous.

The EU has taken a multi approach to tackling the energy shortage. Firstly is it building up its reserve of gas with a goal of achieving 80% storage capacity by September first. Its already ahead of schedule on this so it will likely exceed this.

Its still likely that the EU countries will need to implement some form of gas usage reduction and have agreed to reducing it by 15%

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2022/07/26/member-states-commit-to-reducing-gas-demand-by-15-next-winter/

But there is different factors depending on the country.

Spain/Portugal don't rely heavily on Russian gas, believe most of that comes from Algeria.

The UK and Ireland again don't directly use Russian gas.

Hungary got an opt out of reducing gas so they are already buying more (Orban's such a cunt). Hopefully at some point the EU figure out a way of kicking Hungary but they have bigger concerns at the moment.

Bulgaria make also end up going back to using Russian gas. Hard to tell with them, the government seems a little pro Russian but they where one of the first to get the gas cut off. Though I think Greece has opened up an energy bridge that may help the Bulgarians somewhat.

Poland LOL. They not give a fuck about Russia cutting of the gas, which its already done and Poland be like "do your worst Russia". Poland's attitude is that under no circumstances does it want a Russian controlled Ukraine on its borders. Hell if Poland was in charge of Nato, Nato would probably be in Moscow by now.

The Baltic states have taken as similar position being the first to stop importing gas.

Germany is keeping its nuclear plant open and is in the process of constructing LNG terminals to increase the capacity of LNG it can handle.

Romania isn't quite as dependent on Russian gas as other countries and is actually sitting on massive reserves in the black sea, which if developed could see it become the EU's main supplier of gas. Need some time to develop the infrastructure done, at least a few years but could probably increase its own supply somewhat quicker.

Austria has been able to reach agreements with Norway on Italy to replace a good chunk of its Russian gas, and reduced its dependency on Russian gas by 50%. Still along way to go for them.

Meanwhile Yale have conducted a review of the sanctions being imposed on Russia and estimate it could knock off 40% from the Russian GDP. Ouch.

Thanks for the info Stav...interesting read...but why the hell then did Europe became so dependant on Russian gas? Strategic blunder of note...for cheap energy.

Simple...it was the cheapest and most efficient source of gas.

Yes a strategic blunder was made by several EU states. They assumed Russia would not commit aggressive acts for fear that those countries would stop buying its energy.

Russia arguably made a greater blunder by thinking that it could get away with committing aggressive acts as Europe would fear being cut off from Russia's energy supplies if they took actions against Russia.

Thanks for the information Stav.   

It is not easy to transport gas by train or by vehicles and there has been accidents where gas transport caused major problems in the past.

Russia's economy will not go down - the USA is in recession and it is going to get worse in future.  The problem in the USA  is that politicias in the past exported their production of goods to countries like China and the Democrats under Biden has slapped down badly any production of oil and gas in the USA,  

Due to the tendency to  over-regulation and mandates - as well as massive expenditure the US economy is  declining rapidly.   Fact is that some economists advisors  of the the present chaotic  administration is actually promoting inflation as a solution to the economic policies of the country.   When Biden took over the National debt of the country the debt was $23,5 trillion - in less then two years the debt went up to nearly $30 trillion.

I am not sure at all which collapse will come first.    The US economy is on the way down rapidly - that may be a saving grace for the country - but the problem is when the will get rid of the clowns ruining the country at present.    As to gas provision to Europe exploration to Europe the problem is with the Greens running the show in the USA.    Will  they allow new gas fields to be drilled for  and nay development of gas and  oil fields  - the present news is they would NOT allow it,,   

The US economy is  more likely to  collapse than the Russian one is,              

It is not easy to transport gas by train or by vehicles and there has been accidents where gas transport caused major problems in the past.

It's not easy to transport, the gas has to be converted to LNG before it can be shipped and then you need the ports to be able to receive the LNG and then the capacity to convert LNG back to its gas form before use. However this has been done for a long time on a large scale with no particular issues regarding safety and accidents.

Russia's economy will not go down

Mike even the Russian's are admitting they expect the economy to go down, you have to be completely biased to suggest otherwise.

Watch the video I linked to see what some of the issues Russia is facing.

"Yes a strategic blunder was made by several EU states."

A blunder indeed. Imagine Nato's predominant reason for existence being to subdue Russia while at the same time not having sufficient replacements for Russian energy.

These are the same guys selling you MMGW.

And also the same guys that aggressively printed money to dig themselves out of the mess their plainly stupid COVID policies caused, leading to current inflation. 

The brainwashed lefties on here believe the following;

*Lockdowns were necessary.

*MMGW is an existential threat.

*Putin and Russians don't actually perceive Nato, particularly Ukraine becoming part of  Nato, as an existential threat.

*The monetary response to Covid policies was justified.

*Inflation was caused by the Russian conflict.

... and Orange Man Bad!!!

Stav go take a hike up Pulpit and your condescending tripe from anti Russian sources. What matters only in decent peoples life is the truth whether it's correct or wrong according to media but what actually is,  but there is nothing so ugly when people take honesty and turn it into false information. This conflict is an ugly part of humanity...but deception is even worse. None of you f'      g  idiots have taken any effort to study history, not even 8 years ago in Kiev and Odessa when coup d'etat started. Start worrying as I can categorically declare that the Ukraine is to sadly become decimated and the West is going down big time and cold will be the least of your miseries, you deserve more than that c   s. There are are good and evil people in every nation but none so bad as to people that deceive and lie. There is only utter destruction...if you don't believe in a just God who sees everything, even your thoughts, you are to pitied.

Ranting doesn't change reality Seb.

No of course it does not but truth always prevails in the end. As I've said let events determine. The west, at least I know talks utter shit, ie Sky News, BBC etc. Let the power of God reveal the truth.

Power of God?

In the last 2000 years the best he can do is turn up on a bit of burnt toast.

Feeble bloody God if you ask me 

You are lost because you refuse to see, you have the audacity to judge your Creator according to minute human perception...do you actually understand...the Pot actually arguing to the Potter , why have you made me like this?

So let's not worry about anything, all we have to do is wait and let God reveal the truth...
Why didn't we think of that sooner?

The underlying tone in a bible basher is that they are right, and God is on their side... They are God...

Chabal it’s  obvious you sincerely believe what you say. But if everybody else is getting biased reporting have you ever considered that you might be in the same boat. I never believed Putin would actually invade…that he did when the world was just beginning to get back to normal was a highly irresponsible act, which has benefited nobody.

The West had 6 years to "fix things" in Ukraine...but didn't...lame reason to start a war...I agree...I'm totally against what Putin is doing, and I know what a what-about-tism is, but things have been wonky in Ukraine since 2014 and instead of appeasing things, Nato has been deliberately poking the Bear....nobody is taking serious measures to stop this insane war...not even trying...this is BS... people are dying daily, yet Zelensky and his wife are doing glamor photo shoots and a young girl has been blown to bits and some people are applauding the insanity because somehow somehow someone is giving Putin the finger? I see Biden bombed the s hit outa Siria yesterday...must be OK...I suppose?

Putin originally said it was to nazify the region. He shortly after likened himself to Peter the Great on a military conquest. 

"They bombed Iranian backed groups that had been shooting rockets which landed near a US base. Not really comparable to leveling Ukrainian towns."

fair...just frustrated that that also seems to have become a perpetual conflict. 

Seb, can you please remind us WHY Russia invaded Ukraine.

He'll come back to you with a answer as soon as he's asked his wife.

I assume the November elections have everything to do with both the Ukraine Wat and the bombing of Syria, as well as the killing of the  old Al Quada leader, while the USA are in a disaster situation.    Whenever the USA Government is in political trouble  some war is started or engineered by the USA.

Biden's so-called strong man image is destroying the USA and the country is getting economically into a disaster area with inflation and an actual recession causing major shit for especially the middle and working class people.    The Government is spending loan money on liberal and socialist pipe-dreams and sabotaging the economy that way.

The fact is that the present liberal-socialist Governments in the USA and EU are deliberately causing insecurity in the world as a means to survive politically.   They have the BRICS countries - making up over 42% of the world population opposing them and they  think they can get away with everything provided the fake media supporting  them.   What is weird is that Trump was accused of warmongering - but the real warmongering is by the people who opposed him.    

That is why  the SA Foreign Minister - Pandor - told Blinken to his face that the War was started  as the result of  the USA  undermining peace making efforts and sabotaging the Minsk agreement.    The settlement in Ukraine could have been done peacefully and the present situation in Ukraine is directly liked to the USA Government's involvement in promoting  the war.   The actual war started in 2014 and was  a direct result of the USA funded and organized coup that was done for dubious reasons.   Biden and a lot  of US politicians were using the Ukraine as a means of  enriching themselves  through corruption and the same people are benefitting from the  war situation .    Any peacemaking attempt is sabotaged by especially the USA and the clique running it at present,.   .

The fact is that the internal politics  in Washington si causing world-wide inflation and even a   recession in the USA itself - but that is not blamed on their policies - but on Russia.    Can th situation on the world economy improve under those circumstances?    The answer is simple it cannot and will not - while the Ukraine people particularly and the people worldwide  - suggle to survive.    .

Western culture and  beliefs in their countries are going to shit and they will go under sooner rather than later.      The fall of Western Civilization will happen and is  going to happen and with present conditions being taken into account it is inevitable and will happen. in a situation where  undermining DEMOCRACY is a dead certaint y.      .    

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Sebastian ... its good to see someone on here trying to plant seed.

Sadly, most of the seed cast falls on rock ... and has no chance of taking root, hence the wide road to damnation.

But ... occasionally a lonely seed finds its way to good soil and a harvest is produced from it.

Note, I said occasionally.

All you can do is to throw the seed. 

God gives it life.

Trying to defend Him on here is a waste of time. They have already made up their minds and there's no changing it. 

The seed has been cast ... and they have heard it ... many times ... and He knows it. They have no excuse.

These are the people that the word speaks of fleeing to the mountains looking for shelter ... trying to escape Him when He comes.

I usually speak about Him because He fascinates me. He is by far the most interesting personality I know and these bozos have no idea what they're missing out on.

Just an interesting fact for you, Sebastian ... it is written that they will be cast into the darkness where there will be weeping and a gnashing of teeth. 

This means that some will be sobbing ... heartfelt sobs ... and the rest will be gnashing their teeth in anger ... waving their fists ... cursing Him ... blaspheming Him ... furious that He put them in a place of torment ...  

If I found myself cast into the darkness, I will probably be a weeper ... for God's justice is perfect. 

We enter His kingdom by His grace and His grace alone. The best we can do is keep our heart right with Him, live morally sound live and in repentance.

Just something interesting for you to consider ... according to prophecy, we can expect something dramatic by the end of the decade.

The signs of this perverted world collapsing is pretty evident. You have to be blind not to see the coming disaster.

Most will wave it away as though it doesn't exist.

The Bible speaks of mankind fattening themselves up for the slaughter and that the birds of the air will gorge themselves on these corpses. 

How many people do you know personally that are horribly obese? I know many. I see them in town waddling along, oblivious. 

The Bible speaks of diseases coming upon man in the last days. We see this today. Monkeypox, Covid, Aids and some kind of black rot has now appeared in India. 

We see the promised heat waves across the globe ... flooding in certain places ... and severe drought in others.

We see how homosexuality has taken hold of the planet. We see how leaders have put laws in place protecting the rights of these perverts.

God speaks of handing them over to their sin ... giving them a depraved mind.

Did you know that the Anti Christ is homosexual? The Bible tells us so.

We are living in interesting times and our eyes are going to see things that's beyond belief.

Can you imagine what it must have been like to be living in Sodom and Gomorrah on the day that God sent fire and brimstone to destroy it? 

They too were living perverted homosexual lives.

Remember when they asked Lot to send the 2 visiting Angels out so that they could gang rape them?

Well ... we aren't much different today. In fact we're worse than ever before

No we cut our cocks off ... and pretend to be we what we aren't.

As they say in Afrikaans ... "Hier kom n ding"

Lekker day!!

So its a Holy war? I'll wait to hear what Rosa opines.

"Yes a strategic blunder was made by several EU states. They assumed Russia would not commit aggressive acts for fear that those countries would stop buying its energy"

A blunder of epic proportions....

"Russia arguably made a greater blunder by thinking that it could get away with committing aggressive acts as Europe would fear being cut off from Russia's energy supplies if they took actions against Russia"

I could almost guarante e you that this was the thought process.

"Imagine Nato's predominant reason for existence being to subdue Russia while at the same time not having sufficient replacements for Russian energy"

Who woulda thought hey..... crazy

"So its a Holy war? I'll wait to hear what Rosa opines."

Just asstupid as one...

CC :

"Trying to defend Him on here is a waste of time. They have already made up their minds and there's no changing it."

That is the real problem...they don't want to see, you cannot convince these stubborn hearts...they just see what they want to see...blind to the truth because it hurts their ego and false vanities...it requires dying to self.

The Rich Man and Lazarus

 “There was once a rich man who dressed in the most expensive clothes and lived in great luxury every day.  There was also a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who used to be brought to the rich man's door,  hoping to eat the bits of food that fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs would come and lick his sores.  The poor man died and was carried by the angels to sit beside Abraham at the feast in heaven. The rich man died and was buried, and in Hades,[a] where he was in great pain, he looked up and saw Abraham, far away, with Lazarus at his side.  So he called out, ‘Father Abraham! Take pity on me, and send Lazarus to dip his finger in some water and cool off my tongue, because I am in great pain in this fire!’  But Abraham said, ‘Remember, my son, that in your lifetime you were given all the good things, while Lazarus got all the bad things. But now he is enjoying himself here, while you are in pain.  Besides all that, there is a deep pit lying between us, so that those who want to cross over from here to you cannot do so, nor can anyone cross over to us from where you are.’  The rich man said, ‘Then I beg you, father Abraham, send Lazarus to my father's house,  where I have five brothers. Let him go and warn them so that they, at least, will not come to this place of pain.’  Abraham said, ‘Your brothers have Moses and the prophets to warn them; your brothers should listen to what they say.’  The rich man answered, ‘That is not enough, father Abraham! But if someone were to rise from death and go to them, then they would turn from their sins.’  But Abraham said, ‘If they will not listen to Moses and the prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone were to rise from death.’”

On another issue raised...the proper news reporting

https://youtu.be/oG2qz1VEDHU