South Africa's Slow, Inevitable March Towards Collapse

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If the ANC wins the next election (and it will, probably with something like 30% of the vote because the idiotic populace will again spread their votes between 20 mickey mouse parties instead of voting for the strongest opposition), this country is fucked.

Of course, you had to be a stupid brain dead liberal to ever think it was going to be any other way under a black government. The state of the rest of Africa was the clue. If you think that's racist, well, the ANC had a chance to prove the norm wrong, eh? Instead they stuck exactly to form.

Yep, we have already had enough black presidents that could have proven conclusively to the rest of the world, just how well they could run a country and let it grow, prosper and thrive...... and not become the new Zimbabwe etc etc .....but no

All they have done is show that just like the rest of Africa, blacks cannot run or govern a country... they just can't.... period.

It is no exaggeration at all to say that every single thing they have got involved with, and I mean every single aspect of running this country......they have fucked it up...... in such a monumentally stupid way......but it is still the White man's fault..... the majority of the population will still vote for them.

Call it racist, call it whatever you want..... I call it basic facts. 

Pakie

The same people who cause the world problems at present were the same people who atta cked the previous SA  Government using the SA Army to invade Angola in 1973 and then when in sight of Luanda they drop their support and the SA Army withdrew from Angola.   

The USA is the cause of the problems in SA and worldwide and that is a point that should never be forgotten.   They do not mind what happens in the country at all - in the end chaos could be used by the USA to instal a puppet Gvoernment consisting of crooks in the country.

What is very sure si the US A would not allow refugees from SA to flee to the USA.      

They would choose the worst elements - like the EFF - to givern the county by terror.   As long as the EFF are as corrupt as the Democrats in the USA they will be happy to have them in charge here,         .

We have a huge water problem in the country. This has been exacerbated by the electrical pumping supply which fluctuates. I was at the Gariep Dam recently,largest dam around 100km long. 

The small town there doesn't have enough water supply. A lady who teaches 50 disability kids told me she has to supply her own water for the day at the school. Probably easier to take a bucket and get ones own water each day. 

"The USA is the cause of the problems in SA"

I have no words.....  

Ok, the ANC have done nothing to fuck up and bankrupt all our state owned companies. 

As to the water quality, something like 50% or more of our current municipalities have had unacceptable levels of bacteria in their water supplies ...that is basics.

In the Eastern Cape, one mayor even suggested via Whatsapp video that people must disinfect their water in a 5L bucket with bleach..... to prevent getting any ecoli infections....that is fact.

Now the governing party is facing liquidation because of 150 million debt it cannot pay.

The people that defend this disgusting governing party, must be as incredibly stupid as the constant majority that still vote them into power ..

Much like Malema now saying that the current electricity crisis was deliberately created by the white man, to use this to try and bring down the ANC many years later..... LMFAO .... and millions will believe him.

Unfortunately African governance has been very poor. 

South Africa of course desperately needs a Trump to get the country on track. 

Concerning the bigger picture the Oaks here need to finally understand that the WEF Globalists are very deliberately trying to crash the economies of Western Countries and thus the world. 

The useless eaters are to be depopulated, ruled tyrannically, and herded into 15 minute cities. 

The Globalists have their hands full though if they want to accomplish all this by 2030. In fact it seems unlikely? 

Incidently I trust that the oaks know that Ramaphosa has links to numerous top Globalists. I think I posted a video of him meeting with these Davos scumbags a while back. 

Malema is a hate filled racist. Not very bright of course but doesn't need to be to fool some South Africans. Fancy trying blame Whites for the power problems rememberingalso how many experienced White engineers were fired. 

Nevertheless the Black electorate is steadily moving away from the ANC.

Yours try will be voting Cape Exit. 

If we can win come and join us in tbe Cape. Rooitwit however must stay away. We have our standards. ??

What thoughts Mike? 

I think the ANC has the same problms that is imploding the USA - the main problem being political corruption on high political levels and ultra-left policies.   The situation is that th ANC lost the support of the majority of the country - in the USA the issue is  alleged racism (the Democratic party main and only battle cry left) - in South Africa it is tribalism,   Zuma turned the ANC into the majoity Party in Kwa-Zulu Natal - the other tribess in the end united against him - but whomsoever succeded him is about as corrupt as Zuma was.  

If no Party gets a majority in the upcoming election - expect a visit by Nuland to see what the USA can get out of the mess through creation of a US Puppet Government in SA.   Like the one she created in Ukraine with people hating all Russian - she will create one that hates all opposiiton and set to oprress it.    People like the Whites, Coloreds and Indians are in the same position the Russian spcaking people in Eastern Ukraine were.

A civcil war is likely in SA - but one can expect the USA will  support their puppet Govenment in SA all out.   One thing is for sure - the USA Government will ban all White, Colored and Indian residents to enter the USA as refugees. .

I do not think SA will survive for long - but will still vote for the D A.               

Mike the answer is Cape Exit. You can vote DA nationally? 

I hear the DA responding perhaps to pressure says it does not oppose a referendum on Caoe Exit.

Africa has the fastest-growing population in the world, with the slowest economic development- a recipe for disaster. 

If an economy cant sustain its population, they will just become poorer and poorer. 

Easy SB - they export the excess population to Europe and the USA - the Open Border Policies of the USA and EU helps them n that.  There are also 16 million such "refugees" in SA.   

The answeris modenization of Afria through dmocratic government - but that si totally missing in Africa and the USA and Europe are  udermining democracy in Africa.       

I see

So these thousands of families that are living off government and child grants, but still continue to create families of 10 plus individuals, without any being employed.....are of no consequence as to why our country is fucked.

Or how about the corrupt and inept police force that upon a recent investigation, it was discovered that 2 000 current policeman that are still in our taxpayers employment, have previously been criminally convicted of crimes.... but still work and operate as SAPS.

The fact that our government cannot do the most simple and basic things correct, like maintaining our roads and infrastructure...... 

Sure guys

Just blame the Americans.

What a laugh

I dxon't blame the A mericans cfor anyth ing.  I just look at  what is happening  in SA and worldwide.   The world si not stable at present and so is the A NC Government in SA.    The whole world is going to the proverbial hell fast.   I have no hope for SA and no hope for thew orld as well.   

I am lucky I am old and will die soon -but my sytmpathy is with the people living  in SA and their children.  They are fucked by the finger of fat e.     .   

Yes, even if the population was not exploding - the government is hopeless and exists to loot money. 

If South Africa had a China-style leader who put a limit on the number of births, it would at least reduce the people born into poverty. 

"If South Africa had a China-style leader who put a limit on the number of births, it would at least reduce the people born into poverty."

Precisely .... or at least some sort of control or restriction of sorts....

Many years ago .... a detailed in depth study was done as to why the teenage pregnancy rate in South Africa had gone up, especially in the black communities ....and the kids that were interviewed said that it was partially because of the guaranteed financial government grant per child that was issued out.... that made it worth it .... you were guaranteed some kind of finances, irrespective of how little..... for at least the next 18 years.

How parents can bring children into abject poverty is despicable 

Western Province FOREVER!!!

I LOVE this place!...still aiming to give the States a go, but the Boland and Cape Winelands sets the bar close to the top...gonna be difficult to beat.

No denying that the Cape is beautiful and that goes for many places in RSA and surrounding countries.

But alas times have changed, corruption has been perfected and out of control crime.

 This is not new to RSA, prior to the ANC taking over in 1992 the same issues that are now a national issue existed in the Townships for the larger majority of black folks who had no option but to suffer through that period from 1948 to 1992 as many still have to today including whites.

As I have stated many times the level of crime and corruption always existed but has grown with the explosion of "immigrants" from north of the RSA border and those with the political power to carry on unchallanged.

Sadly the history of Africa is one of crime, corruption, wars and tribal issues be it black, white or in between.

With the fractions that exists in the black nations peace appears to be something that will never ever come to South Africa of Africa as a continent.

Today for example one South African Rand is worth 0.09$ - 0.10$ Canadian so whoever wants to make the move out of the country you best have deep pockets or a tidy sum somewhere to help you settle in.

Example a litre of gas in Vancouver runs around CA $1.75 to 1.99 depending on the time of day.

Plus most items you purchase (except food) carry a 5% General Sales Tax (Federal) and a 7% Provincial tax (BC) payable at point of purchase.

It ain't easy unless you have pre-planned and/or have relatives to assist you to settle in but in the long run you will be safe and your family will have a future not like you folks are living at present.

Goodluck to the brave who rise to the challange.

 "This is not new to RSA, prior to the ANC taking over in 1992 the same issues that are now a national issue existed in the Townships for the larger majority of black folks who had no option but to suffer through that period from 1948 to 1992 as many still have to today including whites.

As I have stated many times the level of crime and corruption always existed but has grown with the explosion of "immigrants" from north of the RSA border and those with the political power to carry on unchallenged."

AJ, in over 20 years of posting across 4 or 5 rugby websites you are the only white person who's been honest enough to state the above truths.

Respect!

One other thing that should be stated is that the Apartheid regime dehumanized black people for over 40 years while white people were living a privileged life and the vast majority were indifferent and dismissive to the suffering of black people.

The sole objective of Apartheid was to dehumanize nonwhite people and to deny them basic human rights. 

No doubt some on here would have voted for the Apartheid regime and if not then their parents and grandparents would have.

I've delivered my condemnation of the ANC but AJ you're the first and only white person to have delivered criticism of both parties in my over 20 years of posting.

Again...respect!

The sole objective of Apartheid was to dehumanize nonwhite people and to deny them basic human rights.

Has that changed under the current regime, Denny? In my province, the Northern Cape, 87% of municipalities water systems are now in critical disrepair. We can't drink the water from our taps. The people most affected? The poor people in townships who can't buy water or water filtration systems. The ANC is actively poisoning people with bacteria infested water and they don't give a shit. Nothing is being done except the mayors buying new cars and traveling around in longer motorcades. A town like Warrenton was without any water for months. Right next to the Vaal river, no water in the taps. Not even sure if it's been fixed yet. The premier didn't even bother to show up or intervene. If that is not dehumanization, I don't know what is. The ANC freed nobody. White people voted for change in a referendum, because most actually did not support apartheid anymore by the late eighties. The ANC were never interested in the people. They were only interested in the loot.

That wasn't my point.....I know, we all know about the incompetence of the ANC.

Here and I quote from my above text..."I've delivered my condemnation of the ANC...."

My point is that you people condemn the ANC but in the 20+ years I've been posting no white has ever condemned the Apartheid regime as AJ has in his above post.

Sorry Denny - I did condemn the National Partgy and their apartheid policies many times.   I can tell you that because of my conduct I was put on early retirement by the NP at the age of 42 because of my criticism of Government policies,  I will be a pensioner for 40 years if I live to August 2024.     Throughout my life my parents disliked the policies and tried their best to help the poor community.   My mother for instance insisted that the farm cxhildren should all be educated and that set up that the children to become pofessionals like teachers, nursing staff  and business owners.

We're a little preoccupied with the unholy mess we're in right now, Denny. People living elsewhere may feel a little more predisposed to look back.

South Africa under the ANC had a perfect opportunity to break the African model. By the time Mandela retired that opportunity was lost. Viewed from the perspective of his own people he was a great leader in the fight but an incompetent leader in the subsequent peace. Success and failure flows from there.

Correct the ANC did no justice to the SA infrastructure, economy or any of the issues that existed except PLUNDER the coffers which did zero but speed up the pace of the total collapse of everything.

Darkest Africa is a doomed continent as per my Doctor who was originally from Nigeria, worked in the Eastern Cape for a number of years prior to his settling in Canada.

The only question that remains to be answered is: WHO is going to turn the lights off?

‘Who is going to turn the lights off’? Eskom?

"The sole objective of Apartheid was to dehumanize nonwhite people and to deny them basic human rights. "

No it wasn't it was a direct consequence of selfish prorectionism with absolutely no empathy for the large majority...the dehuminizing was a side effect they didn't  care enough for to bother....just as shameful and not an excuse at all, but not exactly the same thing...kinda like lipstick on a pig...and yes Denny, I do understand your pain and frustration...i see it in the faces of colleagues and friends today still, and there's nothing I, or my children can do to make it right...my first vote was in 92, but my parents and grandparents voted Nat, not because they instilled Apartheid,  but because the uplifted the "arm blankes" to pick up their heads after the Boer war, then the depression and then WWIi...it was shamefull self preservation and loyalty to the ones who helped them out of the gutter...the exact same kind of blind  loyalty is keeping the ANC in power today...And ZPF in zim...most people are good, but they allow bad things to happen if they gain by it...luckily there are always good people fighting to change the SQ....South Africa desperately needs someone to stand up and do the right thing again...

I know it sounds hollow or shallow, but I'm truley sorry my people did this...for wharever reason, ot was terrible,  inexcusable and wrong...and it fucked up many millions of lives.

Well stated DbD.

Unfortunately we cannot change history but to admit it was wrong, cruel and a cross we white folks will have to bear forever.

But that is no reason for the present government to cry foul and blame it on the whites while at the same time allowing the country to collapse completely.

30 years and no progess economically the infrastructure is a mess except the Receiver of Revenue who still collects from the people.

SAA, Escom, Harbours and numerous municipalities have collapsed or on the verge of it.

Water rationing and electrical blackouts add to the mess and confusion.

Water is not fit for human consumption and the list goes on and on......  

 Cry my Beloved Country rings loud and clear for all to see but continue speeding up  the ultimate complete destruction of the country we call SOUTH AFRICA.

Right again AJ, we cannot change history, it is what it is but what we can do is to appraise it honestly which you and Draad have done. Never once in over 20 years have white posters stepped up in this forum to acknowledge the horror of Apartheid, the dehumanizing of black people under its brutal laws, the existence of criminality under its rule and corruption in the Nationalist government. In typical South African arrogance all of that is and was dismissed, it is only of importance when a white man is affected as for example when a black raped a black it's different to when a black raped a white, black corruption is noted  while white corruption was ignored and just to remind you lot the Nationalist government was corrupt. Same crime but it's so much worse when the black man is the culprit.....typical white south african arrogance.

So yeah, let's be honest and start there then work our way through to where we are today and though we don't and never will have a solution at least we can endeavor to have a healthy debate. 

"Predisposed to look back" you say Pakie.......no, I'm not, I became aware of the situation from the age of 12 when I was in Standard 5.....I knew then something was wrong and I've been aware ever since and just to labour the point....on my most recent visit I stayed in Kalk Bay, took the shortest route to the Airport on leaving which meant I drove along Atlantic Drive which sweeps into Khayelitsha....deluded myself  that at around 8am it would be safe......the rental car I was driving was vandalized at an intersection, fortunately the doors were locked, long story short the trauma of that experience is still in my head, I was lucky to come home alive.

And just before anyone gets on his arrogant high horse.....I have condemned the ANC many times in this very forum as also to several people on my most recent visit to the Republic which was as recently as September this year. Khayelitsha is a living example of what represents the ANC.

So Pakie, tell me, around when did you become aware that the Nationalist were corrupt, that criminality amongst Black and non white people was the norm and largely ignored while they were knifing each other and that under Apartheid law black people were dehumanized?

And oh, whilst I could barely afford it I alongside of many non whites migrated because of Apartheid, I never wanted my children to grow up in a country where a man's character is judged by the color of his skin.

So Pakie, tell me, around when did you become aware that the Nationalist were corrupt, that criminality amongst Black and non white people was the norm and largely ignored while they were knifing each other and that under Apartheid law black people were dehumanized?

Somewhere during adulthood, Denny, when it was all over. I was a child in the 80s and only finished high school in the mid 90s when the ANC had taken over. I didn't even know what the State of Emergency in the mid 80s meant. You're a primary school child living on a plot near a small rural town. The wars in the townships are far away. I remember my dad having to do roadblocks and duty in the local areas as a member of the commando system which was still operating back then, but you don't really understand what's going on as a child - you just hope he comes back every night although you're not really sure how big the danger is. Even the police coming to schools and talking about safety and demonstrating how a bomb can be hidden in a plastic bag doesn't really sink in, because the bell rings and your on the playground again with your mates. We were far from everything. You hear the adults talking "the blacks are doing this, the blacks are doing that" and that's your reference. Once you're an adult and you get out of your immediate sphere of influence you start questioning things, you read more, and one day the way people who you would have considered your peers a while ago talk doesn't sit right with you anymore. When exactly that happened I can't say. It's a gradual process, like losing your religion.

I am not sure about what is going to be the utcome of the project - But my home town Riversdale ae starting a projrcy costing R250 million to erect sun panels coveing 40 hectares to provide 12 megawat electirity to the Munisipality,    Not sure whether th e project is only for Riversdale - but is likely for the other twons in the Municiplaity as well - the other towns being Stilbaai,Gouritzrier Mond, Witsand, A lbertinia and Hidelberg.  - but the 12 megawatt seems to include those aeas as well.   

The cost will be brne by the Western Cape Government (R195 million - the Municiplaity (R46 million and the decelopers the remainder.   

I hope the project - a first in SA  - will work out for te nenefit of the people in the area.  Incidently the Municiplaity excluded wind electricity provision since it has negative imact on bird life and the natral nvirment and i reuires valuable farm land producing 16% of all weat harvested in SA.   The area also produced other farming like grapes, fruit, ostrich, cattle and sheep fming.- mrmally the animal slaughtered provide meat to all towns inside the Municipality and also meat requirement from Knysna in the east to Swellendam in the west and also Oudxshoorn and Ladysmith.   Some meat is also supplied to Cape Town/    The Municipality wil not damage the faming industry. - hence tha absent of wind electricity.   

Hope it works out - the perstilence we ahve to keep up with from Eskom loadshedding will hopefully be ended.    However, that is the first project of its size in  SA - hence the hope and not the certainty.   

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Fair enough as long as you are cognizant of the horror created by Apartheid....many whites still don't. 

I want to speak to you about the effect Apartheid had on me but I don't want an apology  or anyone else's sympathy. I say me because I can't imagine how its affected those with a dark or black skin colour bearing in mind that people of colour were oppressed at different levels.

In a small way I was involved in the struggle before I migrated. I believed that non violence was the only way forward. I read banned material of Dr Martin Luther King and I religiously listened to his "Address to the Churches" which was on LP vinyl. He inspired me. I also read a book on Malcom X......he had a different approach to King.....I respected both of them. One of the people involved in our organization became Mandela's PA. King and Malcom X offered hope and sanity.

So for quite a while I believed in non violence but then for a number of reasons I changed. 

I began to believe that white people were inherently evil. That non violence was a total waste of time, a lost cause.

From thereon in I hated all white people and I thought of ways of killing them. Not only killing them but to devise ways of repeatedly killing them.

I carried that hate with me to Australia, would vent at the slightest stir from the locals......suffered many an outburst. I'll never forget the dumbstruck look on their faces.

I remember the early days of using public transport......it was a traumatic experience......I couldn't get myself to sit next to a white person in a train. It took almost a year before I eventually forced myself but even then I struggled with the realization that it was ok. The emphasis was on forcing myself.

I could go on, I've tried very hard to erase the bitter experiences and the hatred, I've succeeded to some extent, the hatred is gone but try as I might I'm still wired to an experience I'd love to bury.

I've spoken of my experience, as I've said I can't imagine what impact it's had on the millions of black people who suffered 40years plus of dehumanization.....a people who suffered far more than any other non white group in South Africa.

I believe there's a few loudmouths on here who might just want to pull their heads in a bit.......the ANC is inept, incompetent, corrupt and promised a lot but delivered nothing. Dragged the country to third world status.. The Apartheid regime created a white paradise by exploiting cheap labour, stole the land and all it's worth with no compensation, murdered conscientious objectors and robbed the oppressed of their dignity and soul.

By dehumanizing non white people Apartheid created the out of control criminal monster running loose in South Africa. The ANC could have avoided the problem by creating a decent size middle class.

"I carried that hate with me to Australia"

And ...you clearly still have it .....

"the hatred is gone"

Not even close ....

Your remarks, comments and regular insults to the White South Africans, just in these few posts of yours above.... shows just how much hate and anger you still have towards any white person.....it is clear as day..... and whilst it might be 100% justified..... don't try and play it off that it is now gone..... rather just own it.

Just as you get angry and full of hatred for being treated a certain way because of the colour of your skin, you are doing precisely the same thing on this thread by insulting all white people ....

From what I can see, most posters here are reasonably young, in the sense that they could and would not have been in any way involved with apartheid and what it did to the black population in South Africa.....but you insult them all anyway..........just and only because ..... they are white.

I was a little kid.... I had no idea what apartheid was until I got much older.....and contrary to what you might believe or not, I have mentioned a few times over the years on this very forum, that I detested apartheid.... but I don't need to prove that to you or anyone else.... I don't give a shit who believes me.

I hate the fact that the black people of this country are fucking it up....in a monumentally devastating and efficient and effective way .... to the detriment of everyone, but especially their majority fellow black citizens.

I hate the fact that the organizations that I support have over 300 children literally sitting on the pavement.... every single day.....holding out their butter or margerine containers, to get some food for themselves... and their parents, because their government cannot do shit to assist them, but they have all the resources and finances to do so .....

I am angry with what I see and observe every day, because the black government should and could have done better, they are taking advantage of their own people who they could care less about.......but everything goes back to apartheid.....and that is rubbish... it's about time the black population stood up and said enough is enough....

Why is it that so many black people today are opening saying that life was so much better under apartheid, because they say that everything worked..... I myself wouldn't know.... but that opinion is growing at an alarming rate amongst the black communities, and it is one of the main reasons why the ANC is losing so many voters.....

"By dehumanizing non white people Apartheid created the out of control criminal monster running loose in South Africa."

So because of apartheid, the millions of "Born Free's" can do whatever t hey want, because their parents or grand parents were oppressed?

The out of control criminal monster that you refer to here, with the hundreds of daily rapes and murders is because of the totally fucked up government services like the SAPS that cannot be run properly

Oh now look who's talking.....the wee wailer....kinda expected your appearance, it was just a matter of time. Listen sucker I really couldn't be bothered wasting my time with an opinionated and entitled drip like you.....what would you know huh? Seriously what would you know. I mean you just admitted to be still wearing a diaper.

Run along.......go find someone who gives cares about what you think...I don't.

"kinda expected your appearance"

Much like I fully expected a post like this.... only from you ..

You haven't once even acknowledged what black people have done to this country, only what ALL the arrogant racist white people have done....

Typical ..... as usual, just blame apartheid.... it's the easiest and most convenient cop-out.

Apartheid is the reason why more than ever in this country's history .... black on black crime has never been worse......and the rampant raping and slaughtering of woman and children goes unabated.....it's a joke.

Stop looking for sympathy all the time and put the blame right at the doorstep of where it belongs......the blacks running this country.

All you have done here is prove that you still hate every white poster on this forum.... deny it all you want to......your underlying anger and hate for the arrogant white South Africans is on full view... right here.

"what would you know huh?"

Far more than you, you idiot...... you think because you ran away from South Africa, that you have done or contributed more to South Africa than me or anyone else on this forum?

Do you think that you and other black families were the only innocent South African people harmed or affected by the bullshit apartheid system? 

How many completely innocent white people are affected by apartheid even today.... you have fuck all clue....

I have had every single opportunity to leave SA, many times....but I refuse to .... I live and endure what it kicks up for me and my family every single day...... whilst giving back and assisting the under privileged and previously disadvantaged every single day..... so you know absolutely fuck all. 

I don't do it because I feel guilty for anything

I don't do it because of apartheid

I do it because I don't like to see any people suffering... especially children.....so I contribute what I can ....whilst you condemn all white people from another country that you ran away to.....I am here, still giving back what I can.

Maybe stop shouting from the rooftops from another country about how horrible and arrogant us white people are ...and get rid of your extremely obvious hatred towards all white people ..... it will consume you.... we can all still see it

"I believe there's a few loudmouths on here who might just want to pull their heads in a bit"

Some loudmouths on here are doing more for this country than what you will ever do.

"Sorry Denny - I did condemn the National Partgy and their apartheid policies many times.   I can tell you that because of my conduct I was put on early retirement by the NP at the age of 42 because of my criticism of Government policies,  I will be a pensioner for 40 years if I live to August 2024.     Throughout my life my parents disliked the policies and tried their best to help the poor community.   My mother for instance insisted that the farm cxhildren should all be educated and that set up that the children to become pofessionals like teachers, nursing staff  and business owners."

Notice how he did not even acknowledge this post of yours Mike

Why ..... well, because it's about something good that a white person did for this country.

He clearly only wants to post about the horrible and arrogant white people who did bad things

"South Africa under the ANC had a perfect opportunity to break the African model"

Precisely what I have been saying for years....

It would have made such an impact around the world, and also shown up the apartheid system for what it was, a disgusting and unnecessary opp ression of innocent people who could easily, efficiently and effectively have run a country better than their predecessors.

"I've tried very hard to erase the bitter experiences and the hatred, I've succeeded to some extent, the hatred is gone but try as I might I'm still wired to an experience I'd love to bury" 

"In typical South African arrogance"

"just to remind you lot"

 "And just before anyone gets on his arrogant high horse"

"typical white south african arrogance"

Just some of your quotes in this one thread alone..... and you would have us believe that your hatred for the white South African is gone....... sure ... just look at yourself here ... it is eating you up