Stav - a question to you please

I saw some video on the internet about the Irish Government wanting to start wiping out the dairy and meat industries by reducing the number of cows owned by farmers by 50 000.   That is following the example of The Netherlands - the reason being that farting by cows is causing Global Warming.    Is that true?    

It may be detrimental to the Irish Government - because the Dutch Government took a beating in subsequent provincial election when that topic became a political issue.

I am lucky I am old and am not prepared to give up meat-eating - but that is likely the next thing to go - hopefully I will be dead by the time that happens.             

I saw some video on the internet about the Irish Government wanting to start wiping out the dairy and meat industries by reducing the number of cows owned by farmers by 50 000.   That is following the example of The Netherlands - the reason being that farting by cows is causing Global Warming.    Is that true?    

No point discussing the issue with you Mike when you start with such a loaded question. 

I doubt you realise but the current government in Ireland is a 3 party coalition consisting of the center-left Fianna Fáil (joint largest party in parliament), centre-right Fine Gael (3rd largest party) and the Green party (4th largest pary and the junior member of the coalition). If this government does take a beating in the the next election the most likely party to come to power would be Sinn Féin (joint largest party) a hard left party. Given your frankly unhealthy obsession with what you consider the extre me left democratic party I can't imagine you would like the "Shinner's" much. 

I like liberalism and was always regarded as a liberal by people who knows me well.   I do not despise sane leftists - only the type of crooked leftists making up the Democratic Party and some Republicans  as well  in the USA.   What I hate is corruption.

I do not think Political parties in Ireland has the latter problem.   Please - I do not regard it as a left-right issue - I merely ask about whether the Irish Government is implementing  the same kind of thing the Dutch Government did?    If they in fact did I just wrote about what happened to the parties in the Dutch Government coalition in a subsequent election.   

Don't lie DumbMike, you are now politicising cows. 

Stav, you are one of the great comedians of the UK. You missed your calling 

Anybody believing  that there is no corruption in the USA political scene lives on cloud 9.    The Farmer' Association in the Netherlands was small and insignificant. and it will not take much to find a similar organization in Ireland  when the cow story came up for implementation.   

It goes wider than the farmers - it will also destroy the dairy and meat industry.      That includes milk and milk products - also sweets and in the case of the Dutch - the cheese industry.    

Stav, you are one of the great comedians of the UK

Emm I' not from the UK?

Anybody believing  that there is no corruption in the USA political scene lives on cloud 9.

You're take on corruption in the US is what's from cloud 9.

The Farmer' Association in the Netherlands was small and insignificant. and it will not take much to find a similar organization in Ireland  when the cow story came up for implementation.   

It wasn't the sole reason they did well in the elections, overall they also pushed an anti immigrant and anti EU platform. Anti-immigration sentiment isn't as strong in Ireland at the moment as it is elsewhere in Europe and Ireland is one of the most pro EU countries around particularly after the EU defended Irelands interests during the Brexit negotiations. And its for those reasons I can't see a party like the Farmers Association Movement doing as well in Ireland.

It goes wider than the farmers - it will also destroy the dairy and meat industry.

Where are you getting that from?

Stav

Talk about corruption on political angles there are proof about the following examples:-

*    The House has determined that Biden and his son started and registered 25 companies that had no business activity other than to receive bribes - which is then distributed to members of the Biden family.    The  companies were used for only one purpose - namely to launder money.   The banks sent copies of the transactions to the FBI who refused to investigate it further.    However, the matter now exploded in their faces - but the media you believe in did not report on the issue and so you know nothing about what is happening in the US House.

*     A  report was provided to the FBI by one of their most trusted informers how the Bidens operate bribes paid to them by Ukrainians and Romanians.   The House threatened to charge the FBI (Wray) with misconduct when he refused to provide the document concerned and that covered the period when Biden was VP under Obama.   He got the bribes to change US Policy on specific items involving the bribers and Obama covered it up.   That report will soon be released and it ties in with I wrote about the shell companies.   

*      The fact is shortly after the War broke out the US House voted to transfer $1 billion n cash aid to Ukraine.   Two days after the money was voted on Pelosi and Schiff who also take huge bribes were in Ukraine to deal with the issue.    At the time the WEF on their website had a report on their website to support investment in FTX.   They convinced Zelenskyy to invest the money in FTX and the money provided was so invested.   From that funds $70 million was contributed to the 2022 election campaign of the Democrats proven by the election donations record kept by the Election Authority in the USA - the rest of the money (inclusive of private investments) to the amount of circa $5 billion went missing and  FTX fell apart with their owner being arrested in the Bahamas and extradited to the USA.    He was required to pay a bond of $300 million to be released from jail.   His family bonded their home and provide assistance of $1 million - the rest was covered by two individuals whose donation guarantee is kept as a secret.    In the meantime  the website page on FTX was removed from site by the WEF.   It is now more than 6 months after the above happened and there has been no court case yet and there will not be one while Biden is President.   The above has been documented and proved.   

All of Biden, Pelosi, Schiff together with Clinton and Podesta - Clinton erstwhile campaign manager and now in charge in the WH on Global warming - had long histories of corruption involving Russia and Ukraine.    Muller referred in his report to Manafort and another person he did not name as being involved in corrupt activities in Ukraine.   That other person was Podesta.   Podesta - a total idiot using the word "password" as his secret code and his site was hacked and thousands of documents ended up with Wikileaks.   Amongst others it referred to 75 000 shares  in a gift from a Russian company with ties to the Kremlin.   Podesta passed the shares to a company registered by his daughter in Vermont.   When confronted by Fox about the donation his defense was that the documents were stolen from his computer.   One of the documents so obtained was an e-mail Clinton sent to Podesta in which she claimed she "has direct access into Putin's inner sanctum".    

The media you believe in do not cover anything detrimental to the DP and some of their Republican Partners in corruption.   The FBI is disgracing themselves by not investigating  corrupt activities by politicians in the USA. 

Without cows where would milk come from to produce milk products and meat?   Falling from the sky?    I grew up on a farm and knows how farming operates and what the impact of production entails.   My father was a big dairy farm producer and we made our own butter from produce - the rest went to factories.   Without cows - no dairy industry.   In the end no meat industry also.    Are you a vegetarian?     Hope you are - because soon meat will cost more than anybody bar the wealthy can afford.      

Michael, they love lies. You cannot reason with such people. Their hearts are seared as if with a hot iron and past the point of feeling. They feel no conviction for their lies, they only feel a desire to spread it and attack anything that is good and right.

The country which regard cows as holy animals is India.    Anybody mad enough to eliminate cows from existence in India would be killed within minutes,   The same applies to cattle in Africa.     What European countries do in that field would be minimal gestures and will not count for anything in a global warming context.  

SB

I did not politicize cows it was done by the Dutch and the Irish Governments - with the Global Warming fanatics is at it in the USA as well.            

I like liberalism and was always regarded as a liberal by people who knows me well.

Assuredly. The problem comes from being raised in SA, a country where people have lived erasing the vast number of the majority and can not understand that negotiation can not be driven unilaterally all the time.

Anybody mad enough to eliminate cows from existence in India would be killed within minutes,   The same applies to cattle in Africa.     What European countries do in that field would be minimal gestures and will not count for anything in a global warming context. 

What a comment. Billions of animals are killed every year in Europe. Billions.

Indians would have a lot of work to do if they were coming to Europe with their mindset.

the reason being that farting by cows is causing Global Warming. 

One reason. Another is trade. Trade that is the most cherished value for liberals.

About milk: usually, milk consumption is reserved to cubs at a young age.

Segments of humanity acquired a mutation that allowed milk to be consumed healthily at adult age.

Quite often, white people associate themselves with that ability (ironically, other segments of humanity that developed a similar aptitude are found among quota people)

On the other hand, people in Asia do not have a trait and have withdrawn over time milk consumption at adult age.

All so called white people do not share the trait and the trait is not life long lasting.

Depending on its source, milk is more or less adapted to adult consumption (goat milk is more suitable than cow milk)

All in all, milk consumption at adult age is detrimental to a human adult.

White people have organized globalization in such a way milk production is favoured, many resources are allocated world wide in order to support the activity.

That is when being born in SA kicks in: so used to force their will on a lesser population, that the idea of not forcing terms in a deal can not be imagined.

Milk consumption is somehow possible for less than one seventh of humanity (not even benefitial as studies struggle to show benefits of consumption as adult age) whereas it is detrimental for the other 6 seventh of humanity.

All of that very large population is not quota people white people can force their will upon.

They must negotiate with the others.

Trading milk based products with people those milk products may be poisonous to them is not a given.

The kind of deal that is possible when supremacy  is involved.

That large part of humanity would fare better if all the resources dedicated to produce a type of food they can not digest were allocated to a kind of food they could digest.

On the topic of meat, cow meat is resource intensive. Pork meat is less.

In a country like the US, most food items are kosher (despite jewish people being a minority), in a country like SA, most food items are hallal (despite muslim people being a minority)

Pork meat, not so much.

That is one of the main reasons white people harp about globalization.

So far, the world had been globalized to support their way of life, their need (white supremacy)

Dropping poisonous food as a trade item may work on quota people, it does not work as much when on others.

Therefore the cow industry must be reduced, it is a misallocation of resources on a global scale.