Stav, WTF is this?

Right wing propaganda?

Yes.

It's an escalating behaviour that could in the future result in full on civil unrest in the UK and other European countries.

People are getting sick and tired of what is happening on their own doorsteps, tensions are mounting all over the place, and people are getting extremely frustrated and very angry...

Something, at some point, has to give...... and it will, of this I have no doubt at all.

Now I see the Muslim community is threatening big shit if the officers involved in the incident in Manchester are not arrested and dealt with immediately ..

Clever

Stand outside the police station with a bullhorn shouting to all the congregated Muslims that if no justice is achieved by tomorrow morning, all these motherfuckers are going to get it....

Very clever

Have you figured out why that is right wing propaganda yet Draad?

I don't know what's going on in Ire, but I presume it's an isolated incident being blown out of proportion to create the narrative that it's now commonplace for these things to happen...I actually didn't even watch the whole thing...only the start...my first impulse was that it's probably propaganda,  but it's still worrisome all the same. 

Left Wink Beeno have you purchased your mat yet for your daily excersie of facing east and and wiping your A--- with your left hand.

If not best hurry and prepare because before you know it your country will become yet another Belgium.

Fanatic Islamists populating many western countries and your country as well.

Cannot understand what they want on Mud Island but their plans are simple.

Invade and control with support from the Lefties.

"But the people posting this type of content are hijacking the legitimate concerns of ordinary decent people for there own ends. They just wants to sow hate and division so they have excuses to go out and riot"

What absolute rubbish ....more than 85% of the articles getting posted about this are by people who are actually extremely concerned with how this issue and these incidents are escalating all over, and impacting society .... they don't want to go and riot, what bollocks is that.... what absolutely stupid logic is that.

Db is a classic example right here and now in this thread.... he just said himself that it is worrisome, hence why he posted that video, but by your stupid and imature logic, he now did it because he wants to sow hate and division and go out and riot......what dumb logic.

Rapes have been reported thousands of times in the past

Abusing children has been reported thousands of times in the past

Sexual predators have been reported about thousands of times in the past

Gangs have been reported about thousands of times in the past.....

These are ALL old but constant threats to civilisation and humanity ...... whilst these are horrific crimes, you get used to seeing them in the papers, on the internet.... all over, it never diminishes the seriousness of the crime itself, but we have all got used to it happening.

These Muslim protests and movements are another story entirely, they are new in regards to how quickly and violently they are escalating, all around the world, but you constantly just minimise every single incident that they are involved in, and justify it by saying ...Oh well this is never reported about that, and this was not reported about this....

You have permanent blinkers on 

What absolute rubbish ....more than 85% of the articles getting posted about this are by people who are actually extremely concerned with how this issue and these incidents are escalating all over, and impacting society 

Db is a classic example right here and now in this thread.... he just said himself that it is worrisome, hence why he posted that video, but by your stupid and imature logic, he now did it because he wants to sow hate and division and go out and riot......what dumb logic.

Where did you get that 85% figure from?. I can tell you that whoever is behind that Late Stage Ireland Telegram channel who posted that video isn't your average Irish citizen that has genuine concerns about the issue immigration/asylum seekers, they are actually just racists openly hostile to foreigners. There are the people actually escalating the situation and impacting society by sowing division and hostility, these are they people that incite violence at peaceful protests. There people are the ones taking advantage of the genuine concerns of many people by pretending the majority share their racists views, these are the people who stoke the fears of normal people by either outright lying about the supposed crimes or immigrants and asylum seekers or pushing a narrative that they are responsible for a far greater share of crime and disorder than they actually are.

Rapes have been reported thousands of times in the past

Abusing children has been reported thousands of times in the past

Sexual predators have been reported about thousands of times in the past

Gangs have been reported about thousands of times in the past.....

These are ALL old but constant threats to civilisation and humanity ...... whilst these are horrific crimes, you get used to seeing them in the papers, on the internet.... all over, it never diminishes the seriousness of the crime itself, but we have all got used to it happening.

These Muslim protests and movements are another story entirely, they are new in regards to how quickly and violently they are escalating, all around the world, but you constantly just minimise every single incident that they are involved in, and justify it by saying ...Oh well this is never reported about that, and this was not reported about this....

You have permanent blinkers on 

I never minimized them, I simply don't over emphasis them like you do. 

"Where did you get that 85% figure from?"

Simple.... from personal experience 

85% of the articles or videos that I have read or watched are from individuals, or media outlets that are concerned about what is happening, and not just in the UK or Ireland, hence why I posted that recent issue yesterday about Union Station as well.....and if you don't support my numbers, no problem at all.... but then maybe rather evaluate where you are getting all your news from then... especially when you tell us that most of the stuff that you say you are reading or watching is from people or organizations that just want to sow hate and division and want people to riot...., because that is definitely not what I am experiencing.

Yes, there are radical racist ideological idiots who post articles or videos for their own malicious reasons, that's a given, you will always have that element.... but you are just painting anyone and everyone with the same brush when they do post something about this serious ongoing issue, by saying that their intentions are to just sow hate and division and that they just want to find an excuse to go out and riot.... because that is just honestly very ignorant and stupid..... people are concerned about this issue, and they should be.....so they want to discuss it, and they should be able to.... openly, without being labelled by people like you.

I see that you have a tendency of accusing people of things that you don't really know or seem to fully understand ...and now here you are yet again... pointing fingers and lebelling people who are posting articles and videos about a serious issue and getting people to talk about it......and yes, there are the racist idiots who do that as well, I am very aware of that ......but your blanket approach to anyone talking, posting, or discussing this topic is very niave.

"I never minimized them, I simply don't over emphasis them like you do"

I may have discussed some issues before, but where and when have I over emphasised these topics listed above?

85% of the articles or videos that I have read or watched are from individuals, or media outlets that are concerned about what is happening

Have you ever considered that you might be in an echo chamber?

but then maybe rather evaluate where you are getting all your news from then... especially when you tell us that most of the stuff that you say you are reading or watching is from people or organizations that just want to sow hate and division and want people to riot...., because that is definitely not what I am experiencing.

I should evaluate where I get my news from? This from the guy who links to stories from websites so obscure  that don't even show up in a google search and source their information from the Gateway Pundit, but yeah I need to evaluate. I have already listed before where I get my news from. The majority of them are well regarded and reputable new organisations. Now I do get news from some social media sources as well and these are not rated by organisations like Ground News so its more a matter of opinion but I'd confident in the credibility of these sources. Your sources on the other hand are highly dubious, to take just one example you posted recently about how 70% of prison inmates in France are Muslim, problem is their is no evidence to back up that claim and the source that's been attributed to the claim has rejected it.

but you are just painting anyone and everyone with the same brush when they do post something

And yet just two posts earlier

Now I see the Muslim community is threatening big shit if the officers involved in the incident in Manchester are not arrested and dealt with immediately ..

So the Muslim community equates to one Muslim with a microphone at a protest?. What about the Imam at the same protest who was trying to calm things down and asking for people not to take the law into the own hands and to behave like respectable citizens. Funny how you keep omitting certain details about the new topics you post. 

people are concerned about this issue, and they should be.....so they want to discuss it, and they should be able to.... openly, without being labelled by people like you.

I don't label normal people who are discussing the topic in good faith and have an open mind nor any of them who engage in peaceful protest.  I will call out the rioters and the people who flood social media with misleading xenophobic content who are simply trying to whip up the fears of normal people. They may be a minority but they can still influence the general discourse around the issue.

I see that you have a tendency of accusing people of things that you don't really know or seem to fully understand ...and now here you are yet again... pointing fingers and lebelling people who are posting articles and videos about a serious issue and getting people to talk about it......and yes, there are the racist idiots who do that as well, I am very aware of that ......but your blanket approach to anyone talking, posting, or discussing this topic is very niave.

I have a tendency of calling out bullshit is all. 

They follow a long tradition of African, German, Irish and Italian immigrants.

Many of those groups would have originally faced discrimination in the US as well.

But if a group enters a country in numbers and doesn’t want to assimilate, strife is inevitable. Governments should be viewing this from the perspective of their existing citizens.

Immigration and refugees is an extremely difficult peg to square for any government anywhere. There is the need to balance the wishes of the existing citizens versus in many countries an economic imperative of needing migrants workers to sustain an increasing and longer living elderly population and also a morale obligation to help people in need in a world where resources are not infinite. 

All fair, as long as it's done orderly and legally...

There’s a difference….wanting to be part of fabric….or wanting to maintain a separate identity. Not true of all, even most…but true of enough Muslims to create a separate pressure group, that tends to be supported by even those who want to assimilate. 

"Have you ever considered that you might be in an echo chamber?"

Lol, this was hilarious given that it came from you....

"I should evaluate where I get my news from? This from the guy who links to stories from websites so obscure"

As I said before, this is always, and I mean always..... your go to move..........to try and discredit the website.....yet you have never once been able to dipsute the veracity of any of the videos that I have posted......and if you have, prove it here.........because that's exactly when these comments of yours look so incredibly weak.

"I don't label normal people who are discussing the topic in good faith and have an open mind nor any of them who engage in peaceful protest"

You need to stop with these blatant lies dude.......seriously .... you continuously label people 

"I have a tendency of calling spewing out bullshit is all"

Fixed

"I will call out the rioters and the people who flood social media with misleading xenophobic content who are simply trying to whip up the fears of normal people"

Bollocks .... just bollocks.... liar

Also ....still waiting for you to show me where I am over emphasising all these topics above that you accuse me of.....

I suppose having someone wanting to buy an island off the west coast of Scotland, to make into a new Islamic Homeland, and inviting Muslims from all over the world to come and live there and practice Sharia Law, would also pose no risk either.... 

Or how about the fact that the same guy has his own small army that are practicing military drills in the car park of a mosque in Fulmer, Buckinghamshire ....

I mean, what's the harm right ...... yeah sure

You are blind Stav...... you are so desperate to always be politically correct, that you don't ever want to admit to some very obvious concerns..... and you want to try and accuse others of not knowing what is going on in the UK.

Video after video is on Twitter and You Tube showing the Irish rising up all over Ireland against the invasion of their country and against Muslims in particular. 

A over Europe Muslims are becoming very Unpopular. 

The time is coming where mass deportations will hapoen and even civil war against the invaders. 

The Irish being tbe spirited people they are look to be leading the way. 

Great to see a huge gathering of British Patriots inindom led by the redoutable Tommy Robison protesting the invasion of Britain.

In the USA the invasion is with the economy the two top issues. 

The open borders Globalist media are failing in their efforts to deceive the People. 

My advice to Muslims is get out why you can and before the sh#t hits the fan. You do not belong in the West. 

I see the whole Manchester incident has now done a complete 180 degrees now that the new earlier video has been released showing what really happened before the other later video went viral last week.

These brothers seriously.... and I mean seriously.... put a beating on these police...... which could have caused who knows what damage.

One of their guns could also so easily have been taken from them and used against them.

These two brothers tried their very best to look all innocent when their picture was taken for the press, sitting on the couch with their lawyer...however now that same lawyer, has now refused to represent them anymore, and has said that the attention and abuse that the Manchester police has received over this issue has been unfair...

Now I see that they are getting support from all over, with the one officer correctly suspended

Interesting .....

Lol, this was hilarious given that it came from you....

More I know you are but what am I retorts?

As I said before, this is always, and I mean always..... your go to move..........to try and discredit the website.....yet you have never once been able to dipsute the veracity of any of the videos that I have posted......and if you have, prove it here.........because that's exactly when these comments of yours look so incredibly weak.

That website did a great job discrediting itself when it quoted comments from the Gateway Pundit. As for your video's, stop playing dumb, you know the question isn't about the veracity of the video's its about the veracity of peoples interpretations of what was said in those videos.

You need to stop with these blatant lies dude.......seriously .... you continuously label people 

I've no problem putting labels on people where appropriate. 

Fixed

How long did it take you to come up with that one?

Bollocks .... just bollocks.... liar

Also ....still waiting for you to show me where I am over emphasising all these topics above that you accuse me of.....

How many posts have you made on here about "Muslims" at this stage.   You just admitted you think its perfectly reasonable to focus on the crimes of Muslims over non Muslims.  Look you might like to pretend you don't know where you are on the political spectrum, but its quite clear to anyone here with the content of your posts, where 90% of them are fringe far right talking points from the US or the UK.

I suppose having someone wanting to buy an island off the west coast of Scotland, to make into a new Islamic Homeland, and inviting Muslims from all over the world to come and live there and practice Sharia Law, would also pose no risk either.... 

Or how about the fact that the same guy has his own small army that are practicing military drills in the car park of a mosque in Fulmer, Buckinghamshire ....

I mean, what's the harm right ...... yeah sure

Except the owner of the island won't sell the island to that guy and even if they did that doesn't mean the owner can turn the island into an Islamic state, buying an island is no different than buying property in a country, in that the island would still be subject to the laws of the state its a part of, in this case the UK.

You are blind Stav...... you are so desperate to always be politically correct, that you don't ever want to admit to some very obvious concerns..... and you want to try and accuse others of not knowing what is going on in the UK.

Well if being political correct is what I consider to simply being fair then sure I'm politically correct. Doesn't mean I don't have issues with the actions or laws of Muslims state or the actions of  some Muslims who have emigrated to the west but the same time I don't believe it fair to tar them all with the same brush. In Ireland here, there hasn't be a single Islamic terrorist attack here nor as far as I'm aware any evidence to indicate Muslims partake in crime at a higher rates than the native Irish, that isn't to say they don't commit crimes at all or that some of them don't hold extreme views, but you could argue that Ireland is a country where Muslims have by and large integrated pretty well.  

"More I know you are but what am I retorts?"

Just being honest dude..... your complete lack of self awareness is sometimes quite funny

As for your video's, stop playing dumb, you know the question isn't about the veracity of the video's its about the veracity of peoples interpretations of what was said in those videos.

LMAO...of course.... says the same guy who also previously said that the videos about Biden were probbaly fake, before I posted the one

"I've no problem putting labels on people where appropriate."

Yep, you continue lying

"How long did it take you to come up with that one?"

As long as it took you to realise just how increibly stupid you looked recently, regarding your comment about me living in the UK.... 

"How many posts have you made on here about "Muslims" at this stage.   You just admitted you think its perfectly reasonable to focus on the crimes of Muslims over non Muslims"

Exactly as I thought, which is precisely why you didn't address this question the first time I posted it......... so in other words.....you lied..... again..... try and keep up.... you are losing yourself in all this dishonesty.

"Except the owner of the island won't sell the island to that guy"

Duh...... no shit Sherlock, but the intent was as clear as mud

"Well if being political correct is what I consider to simply being fair then sure I'm politically correct"

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... nothing else to add.

"Muslims who have emigrated to the west but the same time I don't believe it fair to tar them all with the same brush"

I see ... so you only tar non-Muslims with the same brush...... yep, got it.

Looks like DumbAss woke up this morning and thought to himself . . . "how can I make an even bigger dick of myself on ruckersforum than I already have?"

I didn't think that was even possible but you're sure giving it your best shot, DumbAss!

Just being honest dude..... your complete lack of self awareness is sometimes quite funny

Oh the irony.

LMAO...of course.... says the same guy who also previously said that the videos about Biden were probbaly fake, before I posted the one

Which one was that again, the video where Biden was supposedly acting inappropriately around children? The one where you saw what you wanted to see and then pass it on like its established fact. You seem to have a really hard time telling apart your beliefs and political bias from reality.

Yep, you continue lying

Carry on denying what you are.

As long as it took you to realise just how increibly stupid you looked recently, regarding your comment about me living in the UK.... 

I said I thought or recalled that you lived in the UK. but yeah go on about my mistake as much as you want, It doesn't take away from my point that the majority of what you post about relating to the UK is right wing tabloid trash.

Exactly as I thought, which is precisely why you didn't address this question the first time I posted it......... so in other words.....you lied..... again..... try and keep up.... you are losing yourself in all this dishonesty.

Cut the crap, you have made numerous posts about Muslims all of them negative, that's all the evidence one needs of an overemphasis about the crimes and wrong doings of Muslim , if you aren't shite-ing on with alt right takes on American politics its probably your favourite topic. Normal people who might have some concerns about Muslims but who aren't stuck on the alt right fringe like you, don't spend so much time going on about them, they also wouldn't single them out over the crime of others or say well we should focus on the crimes of Mulsims because the crimes of non Muslims is old hat by now. I

Duh...... no shit Sherlock, but the intent was as clear as mud

Do we have to worry about everyone with a intention but no realistic possibility of doing something we don't agree with?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.... nothing else to add.

LOL proud of your own ignorance and bigotry.

I see ... so you only tar non-Muslims with the same brush...... yep, got it.

I've said it multiple times I have issues with people with genuine concerns over immigration and Muslims in their country and are willing to discuss the issue in good faith, I've just got issues with that attitude of "durrr...Muslims bad". If you can't understand what's wrong with taking the position of lets focus on Muslim crimes and wrong doing while not being concerned about the crimes of other groups then your not coming from a place of good faith.

"I said I thought or recalled that you lived in the UK. but yeah go on about my mistake as much as you want, It doesn't take away from my point that the majority of what you post about relating to the UK is right wing tabloid trash"

Nope, all it did was again just illustrate how you make so many false and fake assumptions or statements about people or issues .... and then spin some lies to match your narratives.....I have caught you out in your own bullshit a few times now...

You assume so much about posters and people, which you have also done with other posters here as well, until they set you straight.... it's a common practice with you.

"Cut the crap, you have made numerous posts about Muslims all of them negative, that's all the evidence one needs"

Ahhhhh... you see what I mean now ......this is precisely what I have been saying about you all along......and you yourself provide the proof......the bullshitter has been outed yet again.... you spew bullshit comments and make a statement about all those topics listed above and then you cannot back it up when challenged on it....which is why you avoided answering my question..... pathetic.. and very typical of you and your deceitful ways.

"Do we have to worry about everyone with a intention but no realistic possibility of doing something we don't agree with?"

Well.... how about just this specific guy , who has been spreading hate speech throughout the UK for the last 20 years ....

You would be very stupid, naive and incredibly ignorant if you didn't worry in most cases involving people like him, so yes......in most instances, the intent from people like him, to do something now, often leads to something either similar or even more sinister later..... are you seriously too stupid to grasp that ..... wow.

So any comments on the events in Southport?

Do tell...too lazy to Google it now.

On Monday morning there was mass stabbing in the UK in the town of Southport. The attack took place at a Taylor Swift themed yoga and dance workshop for children. Three girls, aged 6,7 and 9 where killed and further 8 more children where injured 5 of them critically along with 2 adults who where also critically injured. The suspect was arrested shortly afterwards

Some details where released about the attacker, he was a 17 year old male from a village called Banks which is about 4 miles away from Southport. He was born in Cardiff and his parents where originally from Rwanda. He has no known links to Islam. He will not be named until after legal proceedings against him due to him being a minor under UK law. The UK police stated they did not consider the attack a terrorist incident.

False information was spread online that the attacker's name was Ali Al Shakati who was supposedly a Muslim asylum seeker who arrived in 2023 via an illegal boat crossing and that he was known to be on MI6 's watch list and also known to Liverpool's mental health services.

This false information was then circulated by well known far right social media accounts. By the time X had taken down the false claim, it had been seen 1.7 million times. It subsequently went viral and gained a further 17 millions views. 

There have been some suggestions that the original source of the misinformation was Russia.

Yesterday while a vigil was being held in Southport by local residents 100's of protesters from out of town showed up and started chanting "England till I die" and "No Surrender" as well of chants of "Tommy Robinson", these protesters then starting breaking up the garden walls on local properties to throw bricks at the police, they also attacked a mosque. 4 protesters where arrested, 54 police where injured, 8 with serious injuries, in addition 3 police dogs where injured and one police car was set on fire. 

The police have subsequently said the riots where organised by the EDL English Defence League a far right Islamophobic organisation and who where originally formed out of football hooligan firms.

A second incident occurred tonight as far right protesters fired flares into Downing Street, and attempted to kick over barriers. 12 arrests where made.

Damn that's tragic...regardless of who did it.

More than 100 people arrested in protests across the UK yesterday, more police officers injured and another police car was set on fire. Clearly these protests are being co-ordinated. 

If you are of any faith other than Muslim try immigrating to a Muslim run country.

Willing to pay your airfair LWB.

If you are of any faith other than Muslim try immigrating to a Muslim run country.

Try the United Arab Emirates, there is 100,000 South African's there. 250,000 people from the UK.

That's a lot of airfares you have to pay.

They must all be Muslims I guess.

Note the YOUR in my previous posting.

Perhaps those are all Muslims who have obtained citizenships in RSA and the UK (in case of conflict in their birth country) and are now returning home.

Just as was the case with the Chinese citizens of Hong Kong prior to the take over of HK by the Chinese.

They flocked to western countries, obtained local citizenship and then returned to HK with new Western documents in case the S--- hit the fan.

You might not have heard of this as I am sure none of them are really on board about holding an Irish passport.

Got it. 

Perhaps those are all Muslims who have obtained citizenships in RSA and the UK (in case of conflict in their birth country) and are now returning home.