The debate…as viewed by sensible conservatives

Saturday’s editorial in the WSJ….pointing out a number of things emerging from the debate. Adult reading:

Well, that was painful—for the United States. President Biden’s halting, stumbling debate performance Thursday night showed all too clearly that he isn’t up to serving four more years in office. For the good of the country, more even than their party, Democrats have some hard thinking to do about whether they need to replace him at the top of their ticket.

This isn’t a partisan thought; it’s a patriotic one. Democrats across the country were privately saying the same thing last night, and some of them on TV not so privately. Mr. Biden lost the debate in the first 10 minutes as he failed to speak clearly, did so in a weak voice, and sometimes couldn’t complete a coherent sentence. His blank stare when Donald Trump was speaking suggested a man who is struggling to recall what he has been prepped for weeks to say, but who no longer has the memory to do it.

This isn’t to say he didn’t score points against Mr. Trump now and again. He can still recall a line or a policy once in a while. But without a script provided by his aides, and without his usual teleprompter, the President looked and sounded lost. Voters already sensed this, which is why two-thirds have been saying for more than a year that they’d rather he not run again. 

The President’s faltering effort allowed Mr. Trump to win the debate despite a mediocre performance in his own right. The former President was strong on inflation and the economy, where he knows he has an advantage. He rightly nailed Mr. Biden’s policies as the main inflation culprit. 

Mr. Biden’s response that Mr. Trump caused inflation by the way he handled Covid was preposterous. The economy was recovering smartly when Mr. Biden took office, and his $1.8 trillion spending blizzard in March 2021 flooded the economy with money. Add an accommodating Federal Reserve, and that’s the cause of 9.1% inflation. 

Mr. Trump also won the exchanges on taxes, linking his 2017 tax cut to the economy’s strong pre-Covid growth. And his linkage between Mr. Biden’s chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan and Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is almost certainly true. Ambitious dictators move when they smell weakness.

But Mr. Trump also ducked question after question—and his exaggerations and falsehoods kept coming. The former President was coached to keep his cool and stick to hitting the Biden record, and for the most part he did. But as the debate progressed he couldn’t resist returning to his self-pitying line about the “stolen” 2020 election.

Mr. Trump began one answer shrewdly by saying his “retribution” would be the “success” of a second term. But then he couldn’t resist saying Mr. Biden deserved to be charged as a criminal, and he didn’t rule out charging him. This sense of personal grievance and fear of four more years of ugly mayhem is the reason Mr. Trump isn’t winning by more than he is. If Nikki Haley were the GOP nominee, the race would be over.

But the bitter truth for Democrats after Thursday is that Mr. Trump’s liabilities may not matter if Mr. Biden is the party nominee. Mr. Trump at least looked vigorous and reminded voters of the pre-Covid economy. Mr. Biden looked like a feeble man no American should want going head to head with Mr. Putin or China’s Xi Jinping. 

One inevitable question is why those closest to Mr. Biden let him run again. We and many others warned them. It was clearly a selfish act for him to seek a second term. But did they really think they could hide his decline from the public for an entire election campaign? It’s hard to believe they wanted this early debate as a way to change the campaign in their favor.

The debate instead has exposed him and their long cover-up of the truth. If they believe that Mr. Trump is the threat to democracy they claim, they did a disservice to the country by nominating Mr. Biden again. They owe an apology to Dean Phillips, the sole Democrat willing to challenge the President. 

All of this presents Democrats with an excruciating choice. Mr. Biden has the delegates to win the nomination, and the only way he won’t be the nominee is if he decides to withdraw. The question is whether any prominent Democrats will now break from their party-wide omertà and call on the President to consider stepping aside. Perhaps there will be a delegation of the President’s closest friends willing to tell him so privately.

A Biden withdrawal would create some temporary panic as Democrats seek a new nominee. Vice President Kamala Harris isn’t the answer. But others would come to the fore as candidates, and the Democratic convention would command the attention of the world. You know Mr. Trump is counting on Democrats to stick with Mr. Biden, but the country deserves a better choice.

It is a crime against humanirty to to use the measures like having the FBI illegally spy on opponents to th e Regime and regard voters as imbeciles.   The leftist ideas and maladministration had destroyed the well-being  of millions of people in EU, the UK , the USA and Canada and then call opposition to their far leftist policies "far right" people.

In EU countries and the USA the opposition votes to protect themselves from further exploitation and oppression by the far left Governments.   The only way they can do the latter is to vote and the far-leftist hate that process,

Now back to the real topic I see that the Frennch electorate are moving to the right as well and for the same reason as well.   The center-left and far-left parties will not find common ground to co-operate and the people do not want a Govenrment in which the  Communist Party who dominate the NPF to govern the country.   Macron feels that way - but does the elite voters want the ssame.   

One of the Parties  of the opposition vote is the Republican Party under Sarkozy who got 10% of the vote - that 10% will not liaise with the ultra-leftists an espeially the Communists - neither would a majority of Macron's Party believing  themselves as being centrists.    The second round  is likely to destroy what is left of the Macron Party.

Italy is governed by the people and parties they see as them being part of - not the leftist and far-leftists supported by the emdia which show no interest in advancing the interests of the ordinary voters,   

I beleive in part with what Mozart said about Biden - a difortnight ago Biden attended  a meeting of the G7 Countries person in serious decline and poor memory freezing up when he had to respond to things without hiis teleprompter and he even misread that,   No wonder the world believe the USA is governmed by a clearly delussional person and that cause isntability in the world in a time when strong  leadership in western democracies is essential.

I can tell you one thing though Newsom is a shit despised by 70% of the voters - his governing of California was totally incompetent and that resulted in between 1 million and 1,5 million people fled to Republican controlled States.    Newsom has no principles and is also under total control of China and was in China a few months ago to get support for his ideas from President Xi.   But that is not even assuring  a victory for him in California - where according to he Los Angeles Times the  majority Hispanic voters are deserting the Democratic Party and drop amongst the Black voters are in evidence.   I do not think it wlll ever be possible to get rid of the Democraic Party control of the State - but Democratic Party majorities are going to shrink even with Biden s Presidentialc andidate.- there eelection system is too corrupt for that to happen.- the 6 million dead and missing voters will inevtibaly vote for the Democrats.   They have faithfully done that for decades.     

By the way thousand o people even fled from California to Acapulco and when asked for the reason - the answer was that gangsters operating  in California are more dangerous than the Mexican cartels.   A debate with Desantis he made an utter fool of himself and the same would ahppen if he ever had to debate Trump.   .He is a shallow self-serving crook,

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Nah, give me the Westminster type of governance or German or Australian/NZ.................

The US system where states get 2 representatives regardless of size is bollocks.

HClinton lost an election although collecting 3mil more votes.

The smaller 'dueling banjos' states wield far too much influence when comparing the numbers.

An archaic system that needs to change.

 So  you want to change the US  Federal Constitution thatprotect the interests of  States and its powers - the core of the Demcoratic nature of the US  Democracy?   That will neve h appen wiha  far more serious civil war than the 1860-64 omne ever was.   But then the fact is that at least one of the DP Senators is advertising  openly that he wants the millions of illegal migrants to serve in the US A rmy and get immediate citizenship.   If that is t sabotaging of he US Constitution I do not know what is.

But then it must also be borne in mind is that the Democrats hate the US  Constitution and also the USA as a country and must always be regarded is supporters of Fascism.

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Gaan kak in die dal ................ not one lie !! Ffs even Trump will admit to being a hyperbolic

maestro.  Like the words of that horrible song, you're simply  'hopelessly devoted to you him'.

Igorance is bliss - and quoting  BS examples are always the same - no UK Parliament during h e past century ever had majority voter support because votes are split between various parties and first past the post in constituencies does not man the winner had more th an 50% of the votes in that seat area - neither does it had on govening parties got mre than 50% of the votes countrywide.  

The country that came enarest to have a straight majority vote system is France where second round voting  have been intorduced to reduce te number of candidates - but that is not full proof either - since it eliminates millions of people from viting in t he second round.   

The result of he above is that Government in most democracies had become dependent on coalitions that is weak and inffective.    So the fact is th e coalitions are simply self-seeking  individuals coming together and look for jobs for pals.   In the present scenario the coalitions do not h ave majority support of people.   In  Germany the coalition consist of th e Socialists the Greens and a small party the F ederalists which is supposed to be a cetrist party - but sometimes is in a coalition Governemtn.   In the last election the center party of Germany that got msot of the votes at 30% coud nt Govern and he cncoction of far leftist who in the last German election got combined got 42% of the votes formed the Government.    That has now collapsed to according to opnion poles the governing parties has  27%  support in Germany.

So lets accept the situation that the present system does not allow for majority parties getting majority voter support.   So check your facts before making shit comments on site.

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Agree with you about everything bar the D P h ave other candidates th at could run ings a gainst Trump.   

The Demcorats all h ave negatives that could not win against anybody  They have two ultra-leftists like Newsom from California and Whitmer from Michigan.   Both ah ve a reord o living  the h igh life and destroying everyody else.   

Newsom fucked up everything  and more than 1 million - some claim 1,5 million US citizens fleeing  from Californoia to Republican States as an ltra-leftit he is destroying  C alifornia with a debt of $68 billion in the current bud get of California.  They have the high est tax rate in the USA  and also th e highest petrol prices - making life realy expensive in California.   They have the wrorst criminality level in the USA  and the worst housig problems as well.   The fact is the voters know that like Biden - the Chines knows about hsi corrupt activities as well.   He was t he Mayor of San F ran ciscio and th at city started decaying while he was Mayor and  is now a shithole city.   By the way while the people were forced tos tay indoors during  Covid - Newom was partying along in posh  restaurants,  In an opinion pole on quality of life for everybody in the 50 state in te USA alifornia was rated as  he worst S tate to lve in in the USA>

The second candidate of equal tatus is Whitmer from Michigan -in Michigan nown as Madame Hiler,    She puts the  hardest Covid measures in the country and people was forbidden o leave teir homes - but that does not apply to Madame Hitler - she was apartying it away in Florida.   She was also invlved in an FBI scandal.   What happened is the  FBI found a few idiots and incited them to  abduct Madame Hitler - they provided the guns and transport to were Whitmer is to e kidnapped.    On the way to kidnap Madame Hitler - the FBI arrested the brainwashed idiots.   But then followed the court case and the evidence came out that it was an FBI plot to get at all the "White Domestic Terrorists " Biden called all those against him that term.  orist" exist.   The Court foud u what really ahppened and te case was dismissed, 

With that kind of records - the two ultra-leftists will not challenged any opposition.   .   .        

Runing Joe Biden is an incredible act of selfishness. Obviously the calculus is the name  brand is more important than substance. But the curtain was drawn in the debate….this is a senile man, well past the incompetence level.

Running this man is an act of disloyalty to the country ….on the part of Biden himself, who is putting his own desires above the country. On the part of his team who will join him in history as disloyal actors. And on the part of the Democratic Party, whose senior leaders have shown themselves to be totally focused on their own interests.

Sadly I doubt the Republicans would have acted differently. 

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