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The Republican Party has turned fascist – it is now the most dangerous threat in the world

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
19 Jun 2021, 11:23
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19 Jun 2021, 11:23#1

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/republican-party-donald-trump-voter-suppression-b1868426.html
Most of the Trumpanzees like to call anyone who does not agree with them a communist.
Yet, his rabid followers want to appoint Trump as King for life and ignore elections and the will of the people.

The Republicans need to re-invent themselves as a party which would mean replacing about 80% of their politicians- otherwise, the only option is cheating in elections to win. (Making it harder for certain groups of people to vote). 

They embrace the "Big Lie" because they know there has been a shift in ideology in younger voters. The traditional conservative Christian values are in decline. White religious voters that usually always voted for the conservative party, are fewer in younger generations. For example, few would believe that when Trump got Covid, it was God who saved him. (As Trump implied).
These cheap parlor tricks are practiced at Christian events with fake healings. 

The Trumpanzee will say it is actually the other way around- however, most of the civilized world sees Trump as a potential next Hitler. They see Biden as part of the human race- nothing exceptional- but a decent person. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
19 Jun 2021, 12:37
#2
19 Jun 2021, 12:37#2

...while most people here see you as retarded. 

What's your point?

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
19 Jun 2021, 13:18
#3
19 Jun 2021, 13:18#3
ha, ha ButtPlug... 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Jun 2021, 16:06
#4
19 Jun 2021, 16:06#4

ha ha Snarkhole!


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Jun 2021, 17:43
#5
19 Jun 2021, 17:43#5
Trump was right on almost every issue….his problem was a 1990s style that the Woke world now rejects in favor of boring conformity.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 Jun 2021, 19:40
#6
20 Jun 2021, 19:40#6

Remember before the 2000s, when you'd only get a medal for finishing o n the podium?

Those were the days.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
20 Jun 2021, 21:09
#7
20 Jun 2021, 21:09#7

The Dems and Republicans bat for the same team, the former is the purest form of the shared goal. Anyone buying into the x vs y is a fool and understands nothing. Neo-libs are the most hardened of fools. Ende. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jun 2021, 21:33
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20 Jun 2021, 21:33#8

SB

You obviously do not know that there is no difference between the Fascists and the Communists are both SOCIALIST PARTIES.   The fact is that a small difference came to the fore in both Parties and that is they formed an alliance with the major capitalists, 

That is why both the Fascists and the Communists in Russia and the Fascists  in Germany and  Italy got into power - they bad the support of capitalists  and wealthy royalists not necessarily  internally - their were partners from the USA and UK as well.    

So what has happened in the USA?    The Democratic Party has the support of the major capitalists and their Chinese partners.   The have become the extreme Socialists and all there efforts is to turn the USA into a dictatorship.     Biden is not the real President - he is merely a front for the Major Capitalists and their partners/     

In fact it is not the Republicans  who wants a Fascists-Communist dictatorship inm the USA - it is the Democrats,                           

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
20 Jun 2021, 21:48
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20 Jun 2021, 21:48#9


Why would capitalists want a government that charged them more tax?
Or had more regulation laws about the environment etc.

Biden wants all companies to pay corporate tax, and all people to pay income tax. That is less money for billionaires. Many were getting away paying no corporate tax, and only some of the income tax- while most other people have been paying the full amount of income tax. 
Trump the utter pig of a human being pays no Corporate tax despite being a billionaire. 

A dictatorship is a dictatorship. An appointed person for life.  Basically a King that will remain in power, no matter how useless they become over time. 

China (and even Russia) while politically Communist, actually have capitalist economies- private enterprise and ownership- competitors etc. 


communism | Definition, History, Varieties, & Facts | Britannica

https://www.britannica.com › topic › communism



Communism, political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.



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https://spectrejournal.com/why-china-is-capitalist/

What type of capitalism is China?Political Power. Not only is China's economy capitalist, but the state now rules in the general interest of capital. As with every other capitalist country, the Chinese state has its own relative autonomy, and one may quibble about which state has more autonomy.15 Jul 2020Twenty-first century China is capitalist. This represents a dramatic transformation for a country that had basically eliminated private ownership of the means of production by the end of the 1950s, while engaging in some of the twentieth century’s most radical political experiments during the following decade. Despite the profound reorganization of the relations of production over the past forty years, the Communist Party (CCP) retains its monopoly on power and is still avowedly socialist, albeit now with “Chinese characteristics.”

Why China Is Capitalist – Spectre Journal

https://spectrejournal.com › why-china-is-capitalist
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 09:30
#10
21 Jun 2021, 09:30#10

SB

Are you an economic idiot as well.    Capitalists pass on the extra taxation to the consumers by raising their prices and get favored treatment by the dictatorial government that make themselves richer, while they have the real say in Government through corruption.   

A typical example is that it was capitalists who invested in China  after the fall of Mao that started the economic growth \wave in  China over he last 40 years and the fact that slave wages is the norm in China and trade unions are not allowed to operate - they are an extension of the so-called Communist Party.

You quoted a  typical example of what I said  in the case in China      The answer is simple and that is that the Democrats wants to establish a Chinese form of Dictatorship in the USA,    The ultimate idea is to systemize that form of Government on a global basis,      

I once in the late 1980's had a chat with Roley Arenstein - a grandnephew of Marx.   He was the longest banned person in SA as a Communist,    When asked about the rule of the Communists in Russia and the millions killed and oppression by Lenin and Stalin he said they were not Communists - they were oppressive dictators.    Another interesting comment was that Lenin laid the basis  in Russia of a  system adopted later by the National Party as apartheid in SA,     Many of the National Party leaders in their youth were Communists,    

So lets cut the nonsense out,   The fact is socialism  is a theory that does not work  and never has.     Socialism is a screen used by Dictators,    The Capitalists Govern and  use their Dictator\ agents  as a political screen to cover for them,     The Royal families in Europe know this perfectly well and are with the Major Capitalists  in everything.    

Any potential opponent of the dictatorship drive is called names and derided by the real drivers of the dictatorship,     I am too old to live after the destruction  of DEMOCRA CY  in the world - you may see it and regret what you suggested in the past - but it will be too late to rectify,  

Once in power they will reduce the world population to their ideal number of 500 million  by all means possible  and the story of global warming will vanish from sight.                                     

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SebPro2,680 posts
21 Jun 2021, 10:43
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21 Jun 2021, 10:43#11

The Republican Party has never been fascist and never will.

The Democratic party today is a far cry from the original policies of the party under Rooseveldt and JFK and is bordering on extreme socialism and over the last years is just short of communism.

This is an ignorant assumption and clearly as the universal law of cause and effect. When there are tendancies to become more liberal there is an opposite reaction to become more authoritarian...

The law of cause and effect is a universal law which specifically states that every single action in the universe produces a reaction no matter what. Every single effect within our world, upon our earth has a cause, an original starting point.

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 13:42
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21 Jun 2021, 13:42#12
America as a country is now in its weakest state over the last 100 years. Democracy is starting to fail, and a civil war could be inevitable with the differences in ideology. 
It is the redneck America (or 3rd world America) vs the city-dwelling Middle-class vs Corporate America. 

The average wage of Americans is much lower than most other first-world countries. 
The average IQ of Americans is clearly lower than most first-world countries. Covid and the anti-vaxxer Qanon's are clear evidence of this. (Anyone who is in an age group at risk, and who cant see the vaccine is safer than getting Covid is a simpleton)- however, this is just but one example. 
Anyone who earns a low wage and thinks that a minimum wage is a dumb socialist idea is brainless. Etc, etc.

Big Tech and Pharma monopolies with billionaires like Bill Gates are the richest people in the world papering over the cracks that are growing in American society. The underbelly of America has been exposed. The once famed land of opportunity is now owned by Bill Gates and the gang. Corporate America owns the politicians. 
Even without Trump, the alt-right conservative Christians in America are pushing for fascism in the Republican party. They are all conspiracists and champions of Qanon.
It is all disinformation and misinformation. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 14:01
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21 Jun 2021, 14:01#13

Nobidy is pushing for Fascism in the Republican Party - because the Republicans support the US Constitution that ensures the application of democracy in the US - while the Democrats are involved in constant attacks on the Constitution.      By the way have you forgotten that the Democratic support based Blacks are all Christian leaders in their churches.   As big a percentage of Republican voters who are Christians are the same as Christians supporting the  Democrats,   

You still do not realize that religion has fuck all to do with the issue.   


    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 14:01
#14
21 Jun 2021, 14:01#14

Nobidy is pushing for Fascism in the Republican Party - because the Republicans support the US Constitution that ensures the application of democracy in the US - while the Democrats are involved in constant attacks on the Constitution.      By the way have you forgotten that the Democratic support based Blacks are all Christian leaders in their churches.   As big a percentage of Republican voters who are Christians are the same as Christians supporting the  Democrats,   

You still do not realize that religion has fuck all to do with the issue.   


    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 14:01
#15
21 Jun 2021, 14:01#15

Nobidy is pushing for Fascism in the Republican Party - because the Republicans support the US Constitution that ensures the application of democracy in the US - while the Democrats are involved in constant attacks on the Constitution.      By the way have you forgotten that the Democratic support based Blacks are all Christian leaders in their churches.   As big a percentage of Republican voters who are Christians are the same as Christians supporting the  Democrats,   

You still do not realize that religion has fuck all to do with the issue.   


    

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 14:21
#16
21 Jun 2021, 14:21#16
Yet the rednecks support Trump's effort to overturn a Democratic election...
All other US presidential candidates in recent years have stepped down when their time expired or was voted out of office. 

Trump is just like Hitler who appealed to the working class by destroying any Democratic institution that did not agree with him. 

Monolothic religion can be by its very nature fascist. It promotes the one God with its supporters being a superior human race, God's chosen people, etc. Like communism, it is an absolute truth. 

It seems anyone who is not American and supports Trump is a religious zealot. A Baal woshipper
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 14:29
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21 Jun 2021, 14:29#17

Ag -Total Balls - what did Trump do to overturn a democratic election.     He vacated the White House when  required die and that was it,..   The story about the assault on the  Capitol by about 300 unarmed individuals entering the building is the biggest BS ever spouted by the media you listen to all the time.   

Wake up dimness you are spouting BS all over the site,     get real for a change,     Are you feeling oppressed because you are an atheist?        

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jun 2021, 14:38
#18
21 Jun 2021, 14:38#18

Ou Redshark, along with Redrooi are two nasty wee fascist/communist nutjobs.

If ou Redshark would only limit himself to an error or two per post it would be easier to correct him.

But when you come to the drivel he has posted on this thread I cant be bothered to waste my time. The oak is jackass of note, a complete mong, a retard etc etc. O ne lie after another.


 


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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 14:39
#19
21 Jun 2021, 14:39#19

Western Europe has defeated religion, so if anything, I am empowered.  Reason and morality have won...

Democracy is alive and kicking in the EU. The politicians are certainly less corrupt than their US counterparts. 

Democracy has existed longer than Christianity, and it will exist long after.
It was suppressed during the dark ages when the Church led the world to the dark ages, but Democracy is back on top and continues to push its advantage- except in the US which may be heading for a civil war.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 15:07
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21 Jun 2021, 15:07#20

Democracy in its present form was developed by religion and moral compass and the statement made by you are  totally deranged on the issue.    In any event religion is often the main reason for the fall of dictators - such as the case was in Russia in 1992.

           

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 Jun 2021, 15:54
#21
21 Jun 2021, 15:54#21

Tell us again about all those "conspiracies", VisTard.

It's said that a man must draw fire into his own lungs in order to expel it upon his enemies.

Is Vissie's case, he just keep eating crow and shi tting feathers. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 17:17
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21 Jun 2021, 17:17#22



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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 18:29
#23
21 Jun 2021, 18:29#23

Trump has been keeping a close eye on an ongoing election audit in Arizona. The review, which has no formal legal authority and cannot change the results of the presidential election, is being led by an outside firm whose CEO has promoted election fraud claims on social media. Maricopa County investigated and upheld its election results three times, and its Republican-dominated Board of Supervisors has called the audit a “sham.”

There are efforts underway aimed at launching a similar audit in Michigan.

The Trump campaign and its allies lost some 60 lawsuits challenging the election results. The former president also unsuccessfully tried to pressure state officials, Justice Department officials, members of Congress and former Vice President Mike Pence to take the unprecedented step of blocking Biden’s victory.

Then on Jan. 6, a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol as lawmakers convened to certify Biden’s victory. The riot happened just after Trump repeated his election falsehoods to a crowd at a nearby rally, told them, “If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore” and then directed them to march to the Capitol.

Trump was impeached for the second time by the House, for inciting an insurrection, although the Senate acquitted him. 

Trump's repeated lies have landed with a majority of Republicans. A Reuters/Ipsos poll last month found that 56% of GOP voters believe the presidential election was tainted by illegal voting and that 53% of Republicans believe Trump is the “true president.”

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election. The Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency and the National Association of State Election Directors described the 2020 election as "the most secure in American history.” And before resigning, Attorney General William Barr said the Justice Department found no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could have changed the outcome of the election.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 19:17
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21 Jun 2021, 19:17#24

Wait for the audit result in  Arizona please,    Where did you get that quote from  anyway,   Must be from the media  outlet that lied constantly for two years anyway - so probably from a  fake news propaganda  paper anyway,    The type who claimed that the riots  organized and funded by the Democrats in which 45 people were murdered and  thousands of businesses looted and burned down all over the USA  were peaceful demonstrations.    That Capitol  riot damaged nothing and at best was trespassing by unarmed  people.   Some of the arrested people were in fact a  tour group on a normal  organized visit to the Capitol - so wait or the millions claimed for damages  for wrongful arrest coming up.       

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 19:30
#25
21 Jun 2021, 19:30#25

50% of Republicans believe Biden won, so: 

100% of Democrats + 50% of Republicans believe Biden won, which is the vast majority of the population. It is mostly the redneck Republicans that truly believe Trump won, and they fear that they are becoming surplus to requirements in the 21st century. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 Jun 2021, 20:21
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21 Jun 2021, 20:21#26

...or does it just mean that the current Reps are more openminded and less groupthink orientated?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 21:28
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21 Jun 2021, 21:28#27

So are you in favor of  murdering of every opponent to the the future opponent of the Democratic  Party Dictatorship after denigrating people like you  ever was someone   of substance,    So you also agree with the murderous Clinton when she called opponents to her  "deplorables".

I am not surprised  about your attitude to human beings an you are immoral and someone people like my parents would chase away from the farm because they would  regard you  as a low- boirne idiot.              

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 21:32
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21 Jun 2021, 21:32#28
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokkie

The epithet tokkie is used in the Netherlands as a pejorative noun for lower-class people who often are seen as likely to engage in anti-social behaviour.. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 21:38
#29
21 Jun 2021, 21:38#29

Demonizing the other side calling them pedophiles or murderers is just childish nonsense.  Strawman's arguments that only you would believe. As if Clinton is part of some globalist conspiracy of cannibals that eat children.... Total drivel Tokkie...

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 21:39
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21 Jun 2021, 21:39#30



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jun 2021, 23:20
#31
21 Jun 2021, 23:20#31

You do not know where the name Red Neck originated?     The name was given to the English soldiers in the Anglo=Boer War - whose main occupation was to  burn down farmhouses and carry off women and children to the concentration camps where tens of thousands of women and children died..

You  obviously think  you are better than other people and have no feeling for other people  you regard as lowe r than you are in life  other than hatred,.    Respect for people is integral for  humanity and I respect people who respect me.     I do not act like you do  - I am not "niets wat iets geword het nie"

The way you wrote above is  typical  what Hitler said before the onslaught in the Jews and  what Stalin said before he was instrumental in state murder of more than 50 million people in Russia,    That is why I say you  obviously  support murder of political opponents.     

By the way stupid  - I am not Dutch, I am Afrikaans  and the latter is  a totally different language.               .       

          

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
21 Jun 2021, 23:52
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21 Jun 2021, 23:52#32
When you brought the family into it you mentioned heritage. You are a dutch descendant. 
It is well documented that "some" Dutch people were forced to leave Holland, essentially deported from their own country.  
The Tokkies of the time were rounded up and put on ships to go work on farms for the Dutch East India company. 

Tokkie and Yolandi




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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Jun 2021, 06:40
#33
22 Jun 2021, 06:40#33

"You  obviously think  you are better than other people and have no feeling for other people  you regard as lower than you are in life  other than hatred,.    Respect for people is integral for  humanity and I respect people who respect me.     I do not act like you do  - I am not "niets wat iets geword het nie""

Netso Maaik, with one exception..."niets" is still "niets"...or maybe the "iets" is a plank...

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Jun 2021, 06:42
#34
22 Jun 2021, 06:42#34

"Demonizing the other side calling them pedophiles or murderers is just childish nonsense."

spot the irony?

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SebPro2,680 posts
22 Jun 2021, 07:36
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22 Jun 2021, 07:36#35













































The Red Necks of the Bluff in Durban...Viskoppie's ex- haunts.

Talk about Rednecks of USA voting for Republicans....hahaha

Check out your old Chinas Viskoppie...waaaaaaaaaaa hahaha.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2021, 09:28
#36
22 Jun 2021, 09:28#36

I am NOT a Dutch descendent.     In the female side the first  ancestor in SA was  Eva of the Goringhaikona - who was married to a Danish ship captain.   On the male  side  it was a  single Dutch ancestor who married  a German woman.    Most VOC staff came from Germany and then there were the Huguenots from France as well that came to the Cape,    Dutch contribution never was more than 50% of the White residents of the Cape Colony.    

After  1820  there were also some English ancestors involved and a substantial number of them went to the later Transvaal  and Free State   during the Great Trek and became Afrikaans speaking - language which  has no more than 50%  Ditch sounding words that was even spelt differently from the Dutch spelling of the word with an many cases meaning entirely different from the meaning as well.      

Your knowledge of history has always been 100% zero  as is the case with everything else as well,            

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2021, 09:28
#37
22 Jun 2021, 09:28#37

I am NOT a Dutch descendent.     In the female side the first  ancestor in SA was  Eva of the Goringhaikona - who was married to a Danish ship captain.   On the male  side  it was a  single Dutch ancestor who married  a German woman.    Most VOC staff came from Germany and then there were the Huguenots from France as well that came to the Cape,    Dutch contribution never was more than 50% of the White residents of the Cape Colony.    

After  1820  there were also some English ancestors involved and a substantial number of them went to the later Transvaal  and Free State   during the Great Trek and became Afrikaans speaking - language which  has no more than 50%  Ditch sounding words that was even spelt differently from the Dutch spelling of the word with an many cases meaning entirely different from the meaning as well.      

Your knowledge of history has always been 100% zero  as is the case with everything else as well,            

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
22 Jun 2021, 11:19
#38
22 Jun 2021, 11:19#38
You have mentioned the inbred Eva (Tokkie Eve) on many occasions. I have already corrected you in the past, by explaining that it is impossible for most of the Cape to be descendants of one person. 
Where was God was during Apartheid? Where God is after Apartheid?Having faith the tooth fairy exists, is not going to make any difference to anything. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2021, 11:36
#39
22 Jun 2021, 11:36#39

You have never corrected  anything and in 1806 there were  only about 6 5oo whites in the Cape Colony of which through intermarriage about 50% could trace their ancestry back to Eva,   With huge families the norm   intermarriage were a huge  factor.    Even the  Smuts and Kruger families  were involved with Eva being in their ancestry.

Weird - how come you were from SA,   When did your ancestors come to SA?   Who practiced Apartheid more than the English - they even discriminated against Afrikaans people. 

As is always the case with you religion has bugger all to do  with the politics here or in the USA.      Only a totally sick mind is what you display here,       

            

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
22 Jun 2021, 11:47
#40
22 Jun 2021, 11:47#40

and falsely calling the Democrat party cannibals and pedophiles is acceptable under your moral code for religious bigots.
It is only the religious that are spreading this nonsense, no one else.

Same problem with vaccines. If the religious fools did not exist in the US, they would have already vaccinated their entire population. 



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