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The UN Charter and Terrorism

Started by Mozart8 REPLIES246 VIEWS· 19 Mar 2026, 19:18
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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
19 Mar 2026, 19:18#1
2. How the Charter still applies to terrorism

Even without the word “terrorism,” several Charter principles are relevant:

Use of force (Article 2(4))

  1. States must not use force against other states
  2. This includes supporting armed groups that carry out attacks

Self-defense (Article 51)

  1. A country can respond to an “armed attack”
  2. This has been interpreted (especially after 9/11) to include:
  3. attacks by non-state actors (terrorist groups)
3. Where terrorism is explicitly addressed

Terrorism is mainly dealt with through UN Security Council resolutions and later agreements.

Key example:

After 9/11 — Resolution 1373 (2001)

The United Nations Security Council required all countries to:

  1. Criminalize terrorism
  2. Freeze terrorist assets
  3. Deny safe haven
  4. Share intelligence

This effectively created a global legal framework against terrorism.


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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
19 Mar 2026, 19:31#2

So at the time the Charter was originally framed, national wars, not terrorism was the big issue. Since then terrorism has become part of life and provisions of the Charter are deemed to apply. In addition after 9/11 the world came together to create a framework to address terrorism specifically,


Taken together the language clearly bans the use of force against other states, even if it takes the form of supporting groups that carry out terrorism. Iran is clearly culpable. And the remedy allows countries to defend themselves….Israel is clearly acting under that provision.


In a less political, less divided world Iran’s actions would never have been tolerated by the global community. There would be unity of purpose, the despotic regime would be removed by force and free elections would be held, That is the principled position. Everything else, the cost, the collateral damage, the individual country issues would all be accepted.


What of the loss of life? Yes that’s a very valid concern. But it has to be weighed against the lives Iran has already taken and the risk that some day they may take many more. And the point is, if the world acted consistently on its principles it wouldn’t have to act so often. Countries would conform to the new reality, which is the old reality, the UN Charter.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
19 Mar 2026, 20:39#3

In case M is confused again, let me add the lead post was AI generated.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
19 Mar 2026, 20:41#4

And the interpretation in the second post was not AI generated.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
19 Mar 2026, 21:18#5

If the UN is as weak as it's ever been, that's largely because of the clown.


The above is not AI generated.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
19 Mar 2026, 21:30#6

We need some buttons:


Undo Trump's Mess, then Redo Obama Deal.

All things considered the Obama deal was good. They were not developing nukes.

No much use of ballistic missiles either.


Trump can keep digging himself and everyone else further into the hole, or he can leave Iran. This is just creating problems for future generations. The bumbling idiot.


Their is no end goal to Trump's attack - other than destroy the leadership and its supporters.

The head of the snake will just regrow. At some point America will leave, and Iran will immediately start developing more weapons, probably a nuke as well.



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clevermike
Coach57,555 posts
19 Mar 2026, 21:31#7

Surely you refer ti te h utra-corrupt and weak BSters Obama and Biden. Everything went in favor of Iran and China where the brbes came from - went in favor of Iran under ther presidenciesw, - with kickbacls always present,


In the coiuntries invovled inm the bribe scheme was Russia and Ukraine as well. Ask why the Clinton botch conformed tha she ahs "dorect access to Putrin's Inner Sanctum"?


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clevermike
Coach57,555 posts
19 Mar 2026, 21:34#8

SB


Fuind out how the kickback system worked in the case ioof the Iran Deal. It lxerly wa sno worth the paper it was written on. There were zzero deduction in enrichment activities in Iran. No real inspections because the enrichment work wasas moved to installations where inspections were not allowed by the Ayatollah,


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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
19 Mar 2026, 21:36#9

Historically, proto-Israel is the first one to use terrorist actions against people in the middle east. Obviously, despite that historical fact, liberals would not recognize a legitimate opportunities to Palestinians and others to defend themselves.


Second, the U.N does control the application of its own rules: it means that a country can not use the charter on one's own to legitimate a course of action: it must be voted by the U.N council, a disposition that has largely favoured Israel as the US have relentlessly blocked many resolutions that could affect Israel.

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