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Trump CFO now in police custody- Allan Weiselberg

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
01 Jul 2021, 18:41
#1
01 Jul 2021, 18:41#1

The show is starting folks. Get your popcorn and drinks as it's about to exciting. 

It seems they may go after Weiselberg kids to get to him. Some "gifts" have not been declared as tax expenses, so his kid(s) could go to jail for tax fraud. Weiselberg junior is also an employee of the Trump foundation. 

It is expected Trump's Kids will be the next to deliver themselves to the police station. 

There are going to be lots of good cop and bad cop routines through each stage to get someone to flip. Once that happens, it's enough to prove fraud beyond any reasonable doubt, then anyone who has lied prior to this, with contrary information is guilty of perjury which is up to 7 years in jail.  

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Jul 2021, 20:28
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01 Jul 2021, 20:28#2

You assume there was fraud.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
01 Jul 2021, 20:36
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01 Jul 2021, 20:36#3




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2021, 06:28
#4
02 Jul 2021, 06:28#4

There is no  proven link that Trump is involved in  any wrongdoing and until there are further action and a court finding of guilty - the above is pure malignancy  on the part of SB and nothing more.   

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
02 Jul 2021, 11:58
#5
02 Jul 2021, 11:58#5
Of course, it is not proven, the trial has not happened yet. 
While everyone is innocent until proven guilty, by all accounts the evidence is very comprehensive. 
The more arrests the better. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Jul 2021, 12:06
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02 Jul 2021, 12:06#6

Nice, share the evidence with us, VisKop.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
02 Jul 2021, 12:13
#7
02 Jul 2021, 12:13#7

The Trumpanzee will not accept any evidence, and call it fake news.
When their master is behind bars, they still will not accept the facts.


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Jul 2021, 13:05
#8
02 Jul 2021, 13:05#8

I'm willing to accept all evidence, VisKop.

Cumon, let's see you're referring to when you talk about all this evidence.

How much does anyone wanna bet it won't be produced?

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
02 Jul 2021, 13:09
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02 Jul 2021, 13:09#9
Let the trial unfold. Once a guilty verdict is achieved, you will see the evidence.

You will not accept it... It will be another conspiracy like 9/11. And inside job, etc etc. 
Just search in Google for the allegations, and then look at the evidence the DA purports to have.  
It is very simple. Many transactions have not been declared, which is tax evasion. 

They are going for Weiselberg first because they are certain he has done this. They want to use the good cop, bad cop routine. The bad cop is going after the kids of Weiselberg who are also employees. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jul 2021, 13:57
#10
02 Jul 2021, 13:57#10

It is unlawfull to target someone with the whole apparatus of the state to look for a crime for political reasons...this is clearly the case here...can't you see that it's wrong on so many levels...it's the same as the General Flynn case...poke and poke until you get someone on a technicality and then try and get them to implicate the real target to save themselves or their kids.

This is not an investigation into a crime...this is an investigation to find a crime to take out someone for political reasons...real Commie playbook stuff...Stalin would have been so proud...fabrication of evidence won't be off the cards either.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
02 Jul 2021, 14:08
#11
02 Jul 2021, 14:08#11
If Trump won the next election, he would appoint himself for life. He would throw anyone in jail that opposed him, including past enemies (Republicans and Democrats). Trump has forced their hand, and they have to put him away. 
There is probably a decent amount of corporations in the US also doing tax evasion, but probably not to the extent of the Trump corporation. 
His cases with the IRIS go back over 10 years, so he can't claim this is anything new.
Uncle Sam has finally caught up with him...




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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Jul 2021, 14:23
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02 Jul 2021, 14:23#12

Surprise surprise...

VisKop fails to produce the evidence he speaks of as existing in abundance.


Let's revise...it goes like this...

There is ample evidence->

You just don't want to see the evidence. It's wasted on you->

The evidence exists->

The DA says they have evidence->

I'm sure there must be evidence->

Blah blah conspiracy.


Haha haha

Predictable plankness


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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
02 Jul 2021, 15:47
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02 Jul 2021, 15:47#13
When there is a conviction, it will be predictable that the Trumpanzee will say it is fake news, deep-state, blah de blah. 

A Trumpazee lives in the alternative reality, so they are not going to get accept facts that are accepted by mainstream reality. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jul 2021, 16:10
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02 Jul 2021, 16:10#14

"There is probably a decent amount of corporations in the US also doing tax evasion, but probably not to the extent of the Trump corporation. "


Absolutely no evidence of that...it's not the IRS investigating him, it's a Dem DA who ran on a ticket of finding dirt on Trump...he should be disbarred for not understanding the law.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Jul 2021, 17:09
#15
02 Jul 2021, 17:09#15

Produce the "evidence" numbnuts.

What's that saying people here like - 

Put up or...?

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Jul 2021, 17:14
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02 Jul 2021, 17:14#16

Quite funny that the resident plank talks about "alternative reality" when asked provide evidence that his claims aren't fictitious.

Haha careful now, Viskop, you don't jack your blood alcohol level up to 98%, by drinking those two h alf-pints, this early on a Friday.

Haha

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jul 2021, 08:41
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03 Jul 2021, 08:41#17

"While everyone is innocent until proven guilty, by all accounts the evidence is very comprehensive.

Screw Covid. TDS is the plague that never goes away. Think of it as malaria for the retarded.

Despite best efforts, by "all accounts" there is no vaccine against simpleness.

What I'd like to know is, was the Steele dossier just as comprehensive in it's revelations? Because "by all accounts" it wasn't a bombshell but rather a nuke. A megazillion trillion ton cacophony of primed and enriched uranium ready to be dropped on Trump's bad hairdo. In the end, it wasn't only impotent but also entirety fraudulent. 

...sooo much evidence.

...but, but...sooooooo much evidence.




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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
03 Jul 2021, 15:35
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03 Jul 2021, 15:35#18

@ButtPlug,

Many of Trump's associates have been convicted but got a pardon from Trump. 
Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon.
Even Michael Cohen (Trumps former lawyer) did time in jail for tax fraud.   

I don't have access to the evidence, so I am relying on what "various" media sources are running. 
This is an example-  

1. The charges are serious, and could result in major consequences for both parties if found guilty

Few expected Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance to issue such a wide-ranging indictment, which included 15 charges for Mr Weisselberg and several for the company itself. At the top is grand larceny in the second degree, a crime in New York state that carries a penalty of up to 15 years in prison.

If convicted of all the charges, Mr Weisselberg would face massive fines as well as decades in prison, and a tax bill of more than half a million dollars. He has pleaded not guilty, as has the Trump Organization itself. But his own former daughter-in-law has openly stated that she is cooperating with authorities in a manner that would give them access to at least some of his personal finances.

2. They involve ‘off the books’ payments to both Mr Weisselberg and his employees

In total, Mr Weisselberg is alleged to have received roughly $1.76 million in unreported compensation from the Trump Organization through various indirect means. He was allegedly allowed to live in a New York City apartment owned by the company while pretending to live outside the city; had leases for his and his wife’s personal vehicles paid off; and he was even allegedly given cash for personal use listed as “holiday entertainment” on company forms.

His employees were the recipients of such payments as well, the prosecutors allege, with end-of-the-year bonuses being drawn from funds outside of the company’s payroll system and not being reported to the government as compensation.

3. Most experts agree: The charges are aimed at flipping him

The vast majority of coverage surrounding Thursday’s indictments concurred on one central theme: Mr Weisselberg is a target, but not the target of New York’s investigation.

For weeks, legal experts have speculated that prosecutors in New York have been pressuring Mr Weisselberg to flip, and testify or provide information about Mr Trump’s own finances that would incriminate the former president. That speculation remained unchanged on Thursday, as pundits and analysts agreed that the 15 criminal charges and their corresponding potential sentences was aimed at further convincing Mr Weisselberg to cooperate.

Mr Trump was not charged in Thursday’s indictment, though he was at the top of the Trump Organization for years and was, according to his former attorney Michael Cohen, in control of virtually every aspect of the company.

4. The charges do not involve the scheme alleged by Cohen

Mr Cohen made headlines in 2019 when he alleged, during questioning by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the House Oversight Committee, that the former president and his company evaded taxes by artificially devaluing his properties, including his New York golf course, the Trump National Golf Westchester, in order to take deductions on the properties.

“It’s identical to what he did at Trump National Golf Club at Briarcliff Manor,” Mr Cohen told the committee. “What you do is you deflate the value of the asset and then you put in a request to the tax department for a deduction.”

None of that was mentioned in Thursday’s indictment, meaning either that more charges could be on the way, or alternatively that prosecutors could not find enough evidence to prove that Mr Trump’s company was defrauding the state in that manner.

5. There are no more pardons coming

Up until now, every member of Mr Trump’s inner circle to find themselves the target of criminal investigation has shared one golden parachute: A presidential pardon, which Mr Trump dangled over the heads of several former top aides including Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn and Steve Bannon in a way that virtually assured their loyalty for the duration of his term in office.

But Mr Weisselberg is the first person close to Mr Trump to be charged since the former president left office, and even if that were not the case, his charges are exclusively at the state level meaning that a presidential pardon would have no effect.

The cloud of scrutiny from New York’s Democratic state prosecutors, who are highly unlikely to be replaced by anyone favorable to the former president any time soon or in the future, could create greater pressure for Mr Weisselberg to cooperate if the case looks to be heading in the state’s favor.

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
03 Jul 2021, 15:56
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03 Jul 2021, 15:56#19

Amazing that anyone associated with President Trump are being put through the Demorat legal ringers but not one corrupt Demorat has ever run foul of the law.

Hillary, Bill, Comey and the Biden bunch are all above the law or they are just honest and patriotic law abiding Demorat folks.

Political office should never be used to go after anyone.

Treason and political masking of criminal activities should be dealt with as per the law not political inspired prosecution.

President Trump could have pardoned all his family and business associates if he wished but being the great man that he is he has no fear of being pursued by this political enemies and Commies because he has done no wrong.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Jul 2021, 20:22
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03 Jul 2021, 20:22#20

Hahahaha ja ou viskop is so funny. He keeps hoping!!

Off Hunters laptop they have a picture of Hunter, China Joe and Hunters business associates. 

Biden commited quid pro quo repeatedly. 

Must post all this. 

I have so much info re Biden, Covid and election fraud I could flood this board everyday. 




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jul 2021, 01:39
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04 Jul 2021, 01:39#21

This is designed to hurt Trump’s chances to run in 2024…it’s political. No president’s records have been as scrutinized as Trump’s. Amazingly for a real estate developer, a wheeler/dealer business, they haven’t laid a glove on the Donald.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jul 2021, 05:59
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04 Jul 2021, 05:59#22

I believe that at least in SA making deals with  accused criminals to implicate another person  is criminal  activity is regarded as a legal absurdity and in numerous court cases such arrangements  has been exposed as totally unacceptable and even where there were  other proof of guilt - it led to people be released from the charges and found not guilty, 

 In the USA the charges when taking a political turn is apparently accepted by the media as a norm.   I doubt very much .whether legal experts will fall for that sucker punch.       

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jul 2021, 10:55
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04 Jul 2021, 10:55#23

Hang the bastard

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jul 2021, 11:00
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04 Jul 2021, 11:00#24

If being boring was a crime..yours'd be the most famous case heard at the Hague to date, Blo.

At some point, being so boring becomes a crime against humanity.


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jul 2021, 11:32
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04 Jul 2021, 11:32#25

'yours'd'  ............... stop mixing yours drugs

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jul 2021, 12:24
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04 Jul 2021, 12:24#26

Stop being more boring than queuing and I'll stop putting words together in ways you don't like.

Deal?

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
04 Jul 2021, 12:35
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04 Jul 2021, 12:35#27
1. Weiselberg:a) Good Cop - Give us information about Trump & family, and we will give you a good deal. b) Bad Cop - We will put you in jail. We will also put your kids in jail- also Trump employees. 
If this does not work, find Wieselberg guilty. If he still does not flip, put him in jail.  If he still does not flip, put his kids in jail. 
2. Next Person:Same process. Lots of good cop and bad cop routines until someone flips. 
next, next. 
This is the best way to nail Trump. As he is an ex-president, the proof has to be way beyond a reasonable doubt. Plus, this is just one investigation. There are many more in the pipeline moving along nicely. 
The caveat is that Trump seems to be living on credit - getting loans by overvaluing property and then undervaluing property to the Taxman. With the current investigations, "people are saying" that it could put the Trump organization out of business, as creditors will probably stop all loans. 
While other billionaires may be doing the same type of stuff, it is unlikely anything near to the same extent. Trump needs to be made an example of, to prevent people doing tax evasion. 


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Jul 2021, 13:28
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04 Jul 2021, 13:28#28

There's only one example being shown here, Viskop.

One of poor intellect and worse judgement.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jul 2021, 13:36
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04 Jul 2021, 13:36#29

Listemn SB

What you mention above relates to trials in a dictatorship - where people are routinely used to get at other people and then the other people is sentenced based on corrupt legal practices.   So you are in favcour of the dictatorship the Democrats tare working towards, 

Not there yet - so you may have to wait and see what transpires.    What youw rote above is BS in extreme where do you get what  "seems"  top be the case.?    You must have gotten iot from the fake media - but warnings about that source's reliability is not accepted by 72% of the USA people

What you wrote is checked by the IRS and carefully so - and they would take action iof appropriate.    They have done nothing and the effort by the NY state attorbney was chucked out ebcause there were no basis for her to ;llay charges.    

In any event a newspaper and Democrat witch hunt has no standing in USA courts,     .

       

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
16 Aug 2022, 14:27
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16 Aug 2022, 14:27#30

So Weiselberg is expected to plead guilty on Thursday morning, and might agree a plea deal. 

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
16 Aug 2022, 14:53
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16 Aug 2022, 14:53#31

If anyone tied to Trump, including Trump himself, is found guilty of any wrong doing, then they should face the full brunt of the law, just like anyone else.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Aug 2022, 15:51
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16 Aug 2022, 15:51#32

Some more bS on the same theme from our most ignorant poster on site.    have yoiu not got anything else to do SB than follow the fake news?     

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AJHPro3,183 posts
16 Aug 2022, 18:11
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16 Aug 2022, 18:11#33

Bidengate will be the biggest trial ever to be held in the USA.

Wait for late November and watch the action that is to follow.

Finally it will be JUSTICE for all.

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
16 Aug 2022, 18:16
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16 Aug 2022, 18:16#34

Viskop trust the perjury you refer to holds good for all.

With the Republicans justice will be delivered as it should be to all concerned.

Hope you can understand ONE set of LAW's for ALL.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
18 Aug 2022, 19:47
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18 Aug 2022, 19:47#35

Trump Organization’s Weisselberg pleads guilty

Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s longtime CFO and a close associate of the former president, has pleaded guilty in a New York court to his part in a 15-year tax fraud scheme. He has pleaded guilty on all 15 counts levelled in the indictment against him.

The plea was expected under a deal negotiated with prosecutors earlier this week. He will serve 5 months in prison and 5 years’ probation, as well as agreeing to testify against the Trump Organization when its own criminal trial begins later this year.

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When he testifies in the criminal trial as a witness against the Trump organisation, surely that will be enough to nail Trump. (If he is not already in jail). 

Exciting stuff folks. The lesson to be learnt here is never to employ an accountant whose name sounds like Weisel. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
18 Aug 2022, 19:55
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18 Aug 2022, 19:55#36

I made this comment earlier on this thread. It is still relevant now. 


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Jul 02, 2021, 15:47

When there is a conviction, it will be predictable that the Trumpanzee will say it is fake news, deep-state, blah de blah. 

A Trumpazee lives in the alternative reality, so they are not going to get accept facts that are accepted by mainstream reality. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Aug 2022, 21:03
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18 Aug 2022, 21:03#37

All theater...I'll believe it when Orange Man is behind bars in an orange jumpsuit. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2022, 00:24
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19 Aug 2022, 00:24#38

The sky has been falling since 2016….so far it’s still intact.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
19 Aug 2022, 01:04
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19 Aug 2022, 01:04#39

Actually... The Sky fell in 2009, and Wiesel-berg has pleaded guilty to tax fraud with a reduced plea-deal sentence to testify against Trump Ltd. 

The media says he will testify against the corporation - but not about Trump individually, whatever that means. The next step is to arrest the various Trumps involved in the tax fraud scheme. 

Surely, if the financial director is robbing the company, the MD/CEO must also be involved in it. 



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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
19 Aug 2022, 02:53
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19 Aug 2022, 02:53#40


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