“Without testing, or weak testing, we would be showing almost no cases. Testing is a double-edged sword - Makes us look bad, but good to have!!!”
“If we stop testing right now,” the president added during an event for seniors at the White House, “we’d have very few cases, if any.”
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This is Trump lying to simple people to get votes from them. It is an insult to their intelligence and humanity.
There is of course the media side to this.....’a huge spike in cases’. Which is not true in aggregate, US cases continue to trend down and deaths are at late March levels.
What Trump and Pence are saying is cases are going to be higher where testing is higher because of Asymptomatic cases.. ..and the media is lying about it.
Trump is doing his best to keep the country positive and save the economy.....the media wants to promote disaster to defeat him. It’s as simple as that.
Exactly Moz. Doubt if somebody as dumb as sharktwit will ever understand what is going on. CNN won't allow him to think anything they don't like.
Poor sharktwit has the mentality of a slave.
If Trump's exact words were - “we’d have very few cases, if any.” his own words - then the media is merely reporting what he said.
These words imply that if testing stopped the Coronavirus would just disappear. Like an ostrich putting its head in the sand hoping the problem cant see it.
Transcribe exactly what Bozo says and it's media spin or fake news.
Repeat what Bozo says after the White House spin doctors have turned it into suitable propaganda and it's the truth.
Nothing dumber or more gullible than a brainwashed Trumpanzee.
I don't know about anyone else but I can't be arsed to drag Shark to the point of understanding that more tests equal more confirmed cases.
Shark, the problem here is that most people of your staggeringly high IQ, are able to join the dots. You are not.
I fear you may be on the spectrum.
You know...200IQ but is perplexed by the water that sprays out of his rubber ducky's rear when he squeezes it.
Shark,
I have no more facepalms left for you.
I watched the whole video on that Yahoo page and I can't find any instance where he tries to insinuate that deaths would be less. His whole narrative is about how the amount of testing the US is doing will show more cases than countries where testing isn't done at the same level. That's it. Yet another nothing burger served up as a spicy dish by the TDS squad.
IE Shark is a tool.
N o point wasting one's time on him.
I advised Trompie months ago to STFU, & fair-minded trumpmunks here should now be nodding their heads in agreement ........... but no, the media's dreamboat never listened & he simply keeps on giving, us soundbites by the score.
Maybe you should resend your sound advice. It may have gotten lost in the post.
Let's do a soundbite test of Blo's most recent post...
"I advised Trompie months ago"
What an absolute liar. You want us to believe that you actually advised Trump. Yeah, right. Have you no shame? Do you actually think we are stupid enough to believe that? What insult to our intelligence. What a low scummy lie to tell. Seriously, what despicable behaviour. Again, you bloody liar. You never spoke to Trump nor even advised anyone on his team even once.
Now, don't backtrack! You lied and said you advised him. YOU OWN WORDS!
See what happens with 'soundbites" taken out of context?
Anyone can play that game. It's stupid, pointless and disingenuous.
Shark,
I'm just gonna deal with you in ambiguous philosophical terms from now on.
"Testing will find more people with the virus, but testing or not testing - has no effect on deaths."
If a tree falls and nobody hears it...did it actually fall?
@Trumpanzees
Trump repeats the exact words in this 1-minute video. It is amazing how his minions will do anything to try to protect their master.
The US has had over 100,000 deaths. Even without testing, it is obvious that a lot of Americans have had this disease.
If Brazil stopped testing tomorrow, they would have less "reported" cases - but the deaths are still going to happen.
@Pakie, you appear to be a Trumpanzee in denial. Initially, you appeared objective, but as time has gone on it is clear that is not the case.
How can a country that does not do testing have no Coronacases - if they have lots of death?
TLDR:
Interpreting logically = Trumpanzee
Gotcha
No Shark, here is what you said:
Trump is implying that "both" Death and positive cases are linked to testing.
Where on that video does he imply that death is linked to testing? Quote him, because I'm clearly too stupid to get it.
"If we stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any"
His entire speech is about numbers. Not deaths, or the virus not existing in the absence of testing. Number of cases.
I don't get that at all from what he's saying, but suit yourself.
Just like the Brazil president, Trump is worried about how bad the deaths and positive tests make him and America look.
Brazil's president was caught trying to fiddle with the death numbers to make them lower - or not available at all. Fortunately, he was unsuccessful in doing this.
Trump is trying to pull a fast one by saying that more testing will show more cases(which is true)- but the cases exist regardless of what the "reporting" says. The numbers of deaths are the real facts. (China excluded).
He claims other countries do less testing, so they will show fewer cases. What about deaths? Some countries have hardly any deaths - so it is obvious these countries have very few cases -regardless if they are testing or not (Assuming the death numbers are accurate).
It is the same political manoeuvring as the Brazil president. ( I believe the prior president in Brazil ended up in jail) - so maybe the current one is going to join him.
The bottom line is you cant have a far right-wing person dealing with a scientific problem. The worst type of person to have in charge of a pandemic.
Think about this statement for a while...
"...regardless of what the "reporting" says.
He claims other countries do less testing, so they will show fewer cases. What about deaths? "
Tool.
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11836 posts)
Jun 17, 2020, 15:46Just like the Brazil president, Trump is worried about how bad the deaths and positive tests make him and America look. “
The more tests are conducted, the more patients are put under quarantine or isolation
Pretty much what Trump said (the more you test, the more cases you have, the less you test, the fewer cases you have).
But of course by Shark's logic the message on that infogram actually means "the more tests are conducted, the more people die".
To add to my previous post. This chart allows you to sort the data. Go to cases by million and sort it. Check the USA come up eleventh.
@Pakie No cases = no deaths... (E.g. New Zealand)
Lots of cases = over 100,000 deaths. (E.g. USA)
very few cases, IF ANY = very few deaths, IF ANY.
@Ceradunce,
The US leads the number of deaths- may be not per capita but by country volume.
Additionally, the US and Brasil are still in worse conditions than Europe- and have a higher death forecast. When it is all over the stats can be compared.
If the virus does not come back over Winter, other countries like New Zealand may never actually get a proper experience of COVID.
South Africa, on the other hand, could be about to be the first hot spot in Africa. If Brasil got it during their Winter in Southern Hemisphere, it may be as bad in SA. Some peoples opinions may be different after going through Corona- not just the lockdown.
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Jun 17, 2020, 15:25very few cases, IF ANY.
“ The US leads the number of deaths- may be not per capita but by country volume. “
Do you realise how profoundly thick you come across as?
“ Additionally, the US and Brasil are still in worse conditions than Europe- and have a higher death forecast. When it is all over the stats can be compared. “
Explain.
Shark,
You can't understand simple layman's English.
I doubt stats are within your remit.
Then again, you are on the spectrum so perhaps you're our very own rain man.
Though I highly doubt it.