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Trump is a different type of Politician

Started by clevermike18 REPLIES474 VIEWS· 18 Jun 2025, 23:23
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2025, 23:23
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18 Jun 2025, 23:23#1

Through centuries the problem with Democracy was that poiticians tell the voters what they would do for them - knowing full well they are gpoing to do nothing about delivering on their promises,


Now the USA has a President who do aexactly what he told the voters he will do when elected. Trump was never a politician so he did not know how polticians operate,


Politicians from other countries find that it is better not to mess around with Trump - he told hem exactly wat he will do and they fid it difficult to negotiate thing s with them If he said he s going to do something and tell them what e is going to do - he did what he said he would do and of they try to mislead him he did exactly what he said he would do,


That is why I worry very much about the Iran situation

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
19 Jun 2025, 00:32
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19 Jun 2025, 00:32#2

TDS

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jun 2025, 00:37
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19 Jun 2025, 00:37#3

Sorry - but t he above is true. He never was a real polticin and never wuill be one.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
19 Jun 2025, 00:50
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19 Jun 2025, 00:50#4

Trump is a populist. When the middle class declines in a society and the working class grows, populists will just pop out of nowhere. The mainstream politician is no longer good enough, so it is a reset of capitalism, a proletarian revolution. This is just a rerun of history repeating itself.


Iran should be very afraid of Trump; he is more like them than most Western politicians, but he has a huge army as well as nukes.

Iran may be thinking that if they had nukes, they would be safer.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
19 Jun 2025, 01:02
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19 Jun 2025, 01:02#5

He's first & foremost ... batshit

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
19 Jun 2025, 04:14
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19 Jun 2025, 04:14#6

On Monday he wrote: “Everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran!” and the next day: “We know exactly where the so-called ‘Supreme Leader’ is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there – We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now.”

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Jun 2025, 06:57
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19 Jun 2025, 06:57#7

A Gonna Loonie, it would never have happened if I had been POTUS, promised to stop the Ukraine war within 24 hours. Well, he's had more than 24 hours and he is POTUS but failed to stop the Israel/Iran war, failed every single negotiation as well as striking no presence, respect or fear amongst the world's dictators.

Noted for crashing world stock markets, further dividing the USA if that's even humanly possible as well as flip flopping on tariffs and unethically turning his office into a business enterprise not to mention ditching Ukraine while sucking up to Vladi. His only success to date is enriching himself by an estimated $600 million.

Sies what a disgusting piece of shyte!

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Jun 2025, 07:53
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19 Jun 2025, 07:53#8

Grrr!!!

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Jun 2025, 08:14
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19 Jun 2025, 08:14#9

Go'on tell me if it's untrue.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jun 2025, 08:41
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19 Jun 2025, 08:41#10

Yes SB


You do seems to t hink that te situation is what it is - but part of it is based onm BS, Th e SA wa internally destroying itself under a corrupt regime iplemeting policies that benefotted a minority of peole whie destroymillions of people. So why did millions of Black and Hispanic voters turna gainstthe Democrats that they traditionally supported?


Because o a variety of reasons all linked to ultra-leftist ideology such as the collapse of the fdollar through inflation that hit them hard and which no amount of fake data dispelled, Tjese are related to the Open Border policy and the collapse of law and order in the USA, The fact is that -


  1. ruthless and frduent expenditure helped the illegal migrants more and took away the livelihoods of Black and Hispanic voters who found that indigenous US citizens lost 1,6 million permanent jobs beng replaced by temporary low-paid jobs to which illegal migrants were appointed at low paid jobs which the Govement subsidised by means of free housing and subsidy grants of up to $1 000 per person - while th atual voters had multitudes of prolems in merely put food on the table and over a third of the voters became dependent on food banks to help feeding them bcause of inlfation - preference be given to illegal migrnts in appointing of working class jobs.
  2. the malfunctioning public service ruled te country by regulations and Presidential Orders that the Supreme Court repeatedly found to be illegal takeover by the bureaucrats that the principle that Congess has to provide laws and the bureaucrats had to implement laws passed by Congress - and their own internal lawmaking must stop - which was ignored by the autopen used o rule America - while the President ahd no idea about what was going on
  3. The collape of law-and-order in especially inner cities where even murderers were released from jail without payent of bail and never been charged - endangering the lives of people where millions of voters fled from for instance from states and cotoesw controlled by the Democrats to States controlled by the Republicans while the remainder turned ther homes into own prison by trying to remmain safe from criminals;
  4. Ultra--left policies in sport allowing males to participate in woman sport starting with children and where children in schools were provided with child pornography in schools - while children ere taught to ahte their families taking straight from the Stalin playbook;
  5. Where religion was undermined and under constant attack by Government - with resultant spying on parents and Catholics through spying on them by the FBI and Catholic voters - especially Hispanic voters objected to and then found to be spied upon by the FBI.


The fact is whatsoever was introduced undermined freedom os speech and believes and where the voters were worse off under Biden than tey were under Trump - despite fake propaganda spread by the the Government - it ahd zero to do with "The mainstream politician is no longer good enough, so it is a reset of capitalism, a proletarian revolution. This is just a rerun of history repeating itself."the mainstream politician is no longer good enough, so it is a reset of capitalism, a proletarian revolution. This is just a rerun of history repeating itself."

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It is indeed a case where malgovernance is rejected by people suffering under a regime not based on enhancement of the interests of voters, but the interests of ulta-left ideology. In the history of teh USA the middle class and working class traditionally voted Democrat and deserted from the Democratic Party since they attak the interest of those people on a daily basis, That is indeed the case throughout history when elitisit politicians gained the upper ahnd and in the end the voters affected negatively by the ideology vote against a Party tat they regard is causing their suffering.


It happened in all African States and mire imprtantly in Euope where ifeology-based elitism se increasingly rejected by the voters. It happened in Germany where the seond strongest Party are now the AfD with younger voters support the more rightwing part despite accusations that they are supporting fascism - which is egarded by the voters themselves as BS. It happened in recent electiosn in the UK, where Labor and Conservatives lose seats in local elections and where Labour lost a Parliamentary seat where voters supported teh Labour Party since the 1930's. It is the same scenario you follow in your above statement as quoted as an excuse for what happened in the USA. It is esssentially a case here a leftist media misrepresntations fail to convince voes to vote or their Party of choice despite the voers suffer under the Regimes .like those of the USA and in fact in Europe as well.


So in fact the suffering of voters is disregarded and replaced by an idea as you made above, People lok ate the interests of theselves and their families and not at Government based on ideology they find to worka gainst their interests and effect heir lives badly, It is being explained by idologues in an effort to scare away support for Paties that are only interested in themselves and not the interest of he voters,


The drive in teha bove item has zero t do with ideolofgy or anything like that - it haas everything to do with rejected idology the oters find is to their detriment on a daily basis, When in opinion polls before the election in 2024 many of the Black voters said they want normalcy in their lives - not the situation they experience under Bden.


So the fact is in democracies the voters unde adverse conditions vote for dofferent parties theyy used to vote for because of their experiences in thei own life, What happened in Democracie worldide is that ultra-leftist policies are seen as against their interests and reject the career politicians because they lost their duty t seve he peole and not themselves. that represents DEMOCRAcY - not anything else and nto any fake explanation career politiians state why they lost in elections,


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Jun 2025, 14:00
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19 Jun 2025, 14:00#11

Here, more lunacy...

'Stupid person': Trump suggests ousting Powell and making himself head of Fed


President Donald Trump went on a tear against Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell while standing in front of a group of workers waiting to put up two new flag poles outside the White House.

Trump began by talking about the flag poles before veering off the rails on Powell.

"We're doing well as a country. If the Fed would ever lower rates, you know, we'd buy debt for a lot less," Trump said as the workers looked on.


"It's a shame, this guy. I have a guy. Do you ever have a guy that's not a smart person and you're dealing with him and you have to deal?" Trump asked the workers.

"He's not a smart guy. He's worried about inflation. I said, 'That's all right, if there's inflation in six months or nine months, you lower the rates or you raise the rates. You can do whatever you want'...So let's say there's rampant inflation, which there's none. You know what? There is a success. I got a call from Congress last night: 'Sir, there's a problem.' I said, 'What is it?' 'Money is pouring in. We don't know how to account for it.' I said, 'Check the tariffs.' $88 billion came in from tariffs. No inflation. And it's going to get even more. So, I know what I'm doing. So, we have a stupid person frankly at the Fed."


"He probably won't cut today. Europe had 10 cuts and we had none. And I guess he's a political guy. I don't know. He's a political guy who's not a smart person, but he's costing the country a fortune. So, what I'm going to do is, you know, he gets out in about nine months. He has to. He gets fortunately terminated."

Trump then claimed people are losing "hundreds of billions" and "even trillions of dollars," because Powell is "too late" cutting interest rates.

"I call him 'Too Late Powell,' because he's always too late. I mean, if you look at him, every time I did this, I was right 100%. He was wrong. Maybe I should go to the Fed.Am I allowed to appoint myself? I don't know. Am I allowed to appoint myself at the Fed? I'd do a much better job than these people."




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Jun 2025, 14:52
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19 Jun 2025, 14:52#12

Another load of total lunacy by Denny - he quote from The Guardian who has lied to him for years and he still has not learned when to fid out ht eaally is BS sopreading and what is not.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Jun 2025, 19:53
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19 Jun 2025, 19:53#13

The TDS crowd is easily trolled by the orange mastèr....his comments on Powell were hilarious.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
20 Jun 2025, 10:21
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20 Jun 2025, 10:21#14

Liberals liberalize and that is what it is got. Liberalized speech, that is the desire of speaking without any consequences. So Trump has been trolling people or more exactly anti Trump people... What does trolling mean? No one can know as liberals keep changing the meaning of words as it suits them, one minute this meaning, the next one another...


Trump has not been trolling people by the way, it is part of the strategy of wreaking havoc in order to scare capital around the world and offer capital the US as a safe haven. Nixon did similarly. The main problem though is that the world landscape has changed and if european capital for example has immediately reacted properly, other capital has not.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
20 Jun 2025, 10:36
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20 Jun 2025, 10:36#15

ruthless and frduent expenditure helped the illegal migrants more and took away the livelihoods of Black and Hispanic voters



This one is golden and very used by liberals supporting Trump who rehash Trump's words. It is very funny. So those segments of population are doomed to be stuck through generations to the labour that set them way below the average. There is no generational promotion for them, once a cotton picker, always a cotton picker. And through generations. Notice how white liberals have grown used to hiding behind the condition of populations they despize to avoid telling things as they are. The problem is not about those paying below average jobs, the problem is all those jobs that are paying above average and that are less and less resource efficiently allocated to the US. As it turns out and due to global segmentation, a large number of jobs no longer belong to the US, mostly the US and Europe are growing as the habitat for a rentier class, globalization follows the same rules when it comes to economical segmentation as any other place. When you look at the demographics and the huge inequality between US people, the US society works properly for 30 per cent of population, that belongs to the US. The 10 to 15 per cent of the US also belong to the place in a very different manner. For the rest of it, their position is shaky and illegitimate. It is very funny because liberals do not accept the consequences of their actions. When wealth is concentrated in a place, certain activities are automatically evicted from that place. So people in certain lines of job should not be clinging to the US but move to place where the levels of wealth match their line of job.But US citizens can not do that, not in the current conditions. They must consider the move if the locals of the place they are set to move to are being eradicated.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
20 Jun 2025, 10:56
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20 Jun 2025, 10:56#16

Already stated, liberals have liberalizing and they have liberalized speech, that is how placing a framework on anything is so convenient to expose them. Was already done on this board when the assumption made six months later, that present days would be better. Never got an answer on what better meant as this framework would have deprived liberals from what they want: speaking with no consequences and the ability to dress anything as better. Liberals have destroyed one main function of human language, that is conveying meaning. They reject words meaning something as it is too binding for them.


The OP proudly announces that Trump is different because he does what he says he would do. Which is incorrect. Trump is similar to other presidents. A basic political education usually leads to a proper reading of what a liberal program, things that are meant to be implemented and things that are not meant to be implemented. With that view, all candidates do as they announce they will do, people fail to read properly the program and taking the sugar coating items at face value. Obama did things, Biden did things. And they did not do things that were not meant to be done. Due to their lack of politcal education, liberals fail to spot various items.


Trump's strategy is in line with Nixon's, the same chaos based strategy in order to corral world capital towards the US. Except the world has changed so it will not be enough. So more fun incoming and more liberals' drivel about Trump doing as he told he would do. Whatever Trump does, liberals claim he does because he has stated so.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jun 2025, 16:54
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20 Jun 2025, 16:54#17

Hail to the king baby!!!

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
20 Jun 2025, 17:58
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20 Jun 2025, 17:58#18

Trump is not a king. Kings across history were bound by various things.If the tyrants of the past had known how sweet liberalism could be to indulge in all kinds of behaviours kings in the past could not, tyrants interested in behaving in criminal ways would have shifted to liberalism as soon as possible.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jun 2025, 18:37
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20 Jun 2025, 18:37#19

Grrrr!!!

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