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Trump says 'we want our oil back' from Venezuela

Started by Denny14 REPLIES453 VIEWS· 19 Dec 2025, 10:02
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Dec 2025, 10:02
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19 Dec 2025, 10:02#1

Confirmation, it was never about drugs....


Donald Trump has claimed Venezuela has stolen ‘all’ of the oil from the United States.

There have been rumblings of a potential conflict for months between Washington and Caracas as Operation Southern Spear attempts to stop the flow of drugs into America.

Trump’s announced his intention is ‘whatever we had’ returned by the government in Caracas.


Under Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan government seized assets from some American oil companies after the country nationalised oil fields in 2007.

The US President expressed his frustration that the US didn’t push back sooner as he gave an update on his blockade to reporters.

He said: ‘Getting land, oil rights, whatever we had — they took it away because we had a president that maybe wasn’t watching.

‘But they’re not gonna do that. We want it back. They took our oil rights. We had a lot of oil there. They threw our companies out. And we want it back.’

According to the Washington Post, US servicemen could be briefed for more ‘forceful’ naval operations as forces amass in the Caribbean.


Trump was pictured meeting with Marco Rubio in the Oval Office.

F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jets, Growler electronic warfare aircraft, and Hawkeye early warning planes have also been spotted in the air, according to FlightRadar.



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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
19 Dec 2025, 11:21
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19 Dec 2025, 11:21#2

Trump is 100% correct regarding what Vezezuela did to the USA, it was a disgusting move

I would however never endorse putting troops on the ground or creating a war over it ..

I am sure there are other ways to recover what was lost

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Dec 2025, 11:45
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19 Dec 2025, 11:45#3

Trump is 100% correct regarding what Vezezuela did to the USA, it was a disgusting move


So is his murdering of alleged drug smugglers.


But then one can go further and claim that the killing of the alleged drug smugglers is just an excuse to invade Venezuela, topple the regime and claim their oil.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
19 Dec 2025, 11:51
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19 Dec 2025, 11:51#4

Trump is 100% correct regarding what Vezezuela did to the USA, it was a disgusting move


He's not 100% correct. Venezuela was entitled under both international and domestic law to nationalize oil production in its country.


It however was also obligated to adequately compensate those foreign private companies affected by the nationalization, something that was largely down in its first round of nationalisation but not the second.


By all mean's those companies should counite to purse whatever legal avenues are available to get the money they are entitled too, but once again that does not make nationalization illegal, make the oil stolen or mean it belongs to the US.


I would however never endorse putting troops on the ground or creating a war over it ..


Iran would be case in point, while troops weren't put in the ground back in 1953 when the democratically elected leader of Iran nationalized the British and the CIA engineered a coup that lead to the installation of the Shah as leader of the country, a brutal dictator who's unpopular lead paved the wave for Islamic revolution in Iran. Meddling in other peoples countries can have unforeseen long term consequences.


I am sure there are other ways to recover what was lost


Yes international courts.




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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 Dec 2025, 13:06
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19 Dec 2025, 13:06#5

"So is his murdering of alleged drug smugglers."


Alleged LOL.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Dec 2025, 13:59
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19 Dec 2025, 13:59#6

Alleged LOL.


Alright then, if they're not alleged drug smugglers then they'd have to be convicted drug smugglers.

Point me to their trial in a court of law.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Dec 2025, 18:01
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19 Dec 2025, 18:01#7

Yes international courts.


international courts have already decided in Conoco’s favor….catch a wake-up man.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Dec 2025, 18:04
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19 Dec 2025, 18:04#8

Hysteria Weeping over drug smugglers who would put a bullet through a kid who is behind in payments, without blinking an eye. False, hypocritical concern from a fake.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
20 Dec 2025, 00:23
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20 Dec 2025, 00:23#9

It is fascinating how liberals on this board forget they come from South Africa. Being despatched is for others, not for themselves. And how it has grown difficult for them to distinguish themselves from outlaws...

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
20 Dec 2025, 06:32
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20 Dec 2025, 06:32#10

No time to comment on this stuff: it is not even about oil. It is about regime change. The US are being trashed economically by China due to the fact that China, by power of trade (a massive blow on liberals) is the desired partner over the US for a very large part of humanity (including liberals)


This situation is reframed by liberals as Chinese expansionism (another weird statement) In order to prevent China from gaining market shares in South America, the US aim at installing puppet governments (most of the time, liberal far right wing governments) in order to power the US policies through hatred on China (see Taiwan example where the leading minority expected hate on China to be enough to prevail over political matters)


The Venezuelan dude is not reliable enough, even worse, he is perceived as hostile. The dude must go.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Dec 2025, 10:03
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20 Dec 2025, 10:03#11

"Alright then, if they're not alleged drug smugglers then they'd have to be convicted drug smugglers.

Point me to their trial in a court of law."


Was Osama Bin Laden convicted in a coart of law?


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Dec 2025, 10:05
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20 Dec 2025, 10:05#12

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Dec 2025, 19:39
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20 Dec 2025, 19:39#13
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
22 Dec 2025, 06:30
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22 Dec 2025, 06:30#14

It could be interesting to know the racial composition of the victims since the US have a proven record of ignoring drugs or even welcoming drugs if they help to weaken the black community. Drugs only became a problem when they started to hit on white people in the US. So the victim numbers is inflated, it includes people US liberals do not care about or even wish they could be more weakened by drugs.


As to mourning drugs traders, it is another non sense liberals seem unable to escape from. Liberals must cling to their failed perception. Which is another powerful force that will lead them to kill millions of people. They can no longer face factual perception and they are in a deep need of building an an alternate reality.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
22 Dec 2025, 06:38
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22 Dec 2025, 06:38#15

The video is excellent as it starts with a supposedly sledgehammer. Which demonstrates the liberal addiction to submission. They must submit people around.


In a few sentences, this guy peddles lie after lie. It is incredible. Even so much that people who are unaware of the situation can determine that this guy lies. Incredible stuff.


Basically, once the guy's lies are established and removed from the space, this dude says that Trump is doing something that works and failures in the past were due to the legal framework. The legal framework is the problem and success against drugs can only be achieved illegally.


Notice also the liberal mantra: they kill preventively, they have a right to kill people based on a perception of a threat, not the threat itself. It is another very powerful force a liberals have come to perceive certain populations reproducing themselves as a threat on liberal populations. Certain populations are too numerous and they keep reproducing. Liberals will go all out on a demographics war mode, killing people around for the mere fact they keep reproducing.

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