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Trump slammed for flashing smile and making ‘disgraceful’ thumbs up at soldiers’ graves

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
28 Aug 2024, 03:14
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28 Aug 2024, 03:14#1

Donald Trump faced criticism after giving the thumbs up and smiling while posing for photos at the graves of soldiers killed during the 2021 US withdrawal from Afghanistan at Arlington National Cemetery.

The former president was at the Virginia cemetery to lay a wreath on the third anniversary of the terror attack at the Abbey Gate at Kabul Airport, where 13 American servicemembers were killed.

Utah’s Republican Governor Spencer Cox shared one image from the event on X, writing Monday that there’s no “greater sacrifice than giving one’s life in defense of our country.”

“It was my solemn privilege to stand alongside the family of Staff Sgt. Darin Taylor Hoover at Arlington National Cemetery today as we paid tribute to his legacy and the 12 others who lost their lives three years ago at Abbey Gate in Afghanistan,” he added.

Former Republican congressman Adam Kinzinger, a lieutenant colonel in the Air National Guard, quickly zeroed in on Trump’s “unusual” pose in the snap.

“Smiling thumbs up at the grave is unusual to say the least,” he wrote on X. “Never mind that Trump negotiated the ‘deal’ and is the reason we left.”

In another photo shared by the anti-Trump group The Lincoln Project, Trump did the thumbs up and smiled as he stood at the grave of Nicole Gee, a sergeant. The group called it “disgraceful.”



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Aug 2024, 15:13
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28 Aug 2024, 15:13#2

Denny, Denny, Denny

He visited those graves because it stemmed form the disgusting conduct of Biden in the fled from Afghanistan in fleeing  from that country/   His conduct was really bad when the flight brig ing back the dead soldiers was really disgusting.

The people with him were the parents and other family membes who were smiling when the phtoto-opportunty was taken.   

Kirtzinger is suershit and was kicked ou of he Republican Party as a result.    His comments is just because he s not worth anything.   .       

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
28 Aug 2024, 15:29
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28 Aug 2024, 15:29#3

Fuck off!

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
28 Aug 2024, 16:35
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28 Aug 2024, 16:35#4

You don't have to be morbid at a grave. You can celebrate a life. The whole family is smiling. On the photo taken at Darin Hoover's grave 4 family members are also giving thumbs ups while smiling. Not something I would do, but people love to do it on photos.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Aug 2024, 17:18
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28 Aug 2024, 17:18#5

Trump’s thumbs up is an attempt to show solidarity with the family surely. The person who associates this with disrespect for the dead soldier is the sick individual who is being disrespectful to the family and accentuating their grief.…classical anti Trump media.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Aug 2024, 10:09
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29 Aug 2024, 10:09#6

Spot on ....

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
29 Aug 2024, 10:21
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29 Aug 2024, 10:21#7

Spin it how you want, giving a thumbs up and grinning while grabbing an opportunistic photo op in front of a gravestone is stupid, inconsiderate and totally lacking in grace or class . . . but then again, we all know Bozo is both stupid and inconsiderate and has about as much grace and class as ou Maaik.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Aug 2024, 14:09
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29 Aug 2024, 14:09#8

BS spouting again by mad media and branwashed idiots, 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Aug 2024, 19:50
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29 Aug 2024, 19:50#9

Pathetic...absolutely pathetic to spin this into something negative...sies! no shame...get Trump at all cost...shameful horse sh!t reporting...as usual...if stupid wins, we're all toast. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
30 Aug 2024, 05:30
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30 Aug 2024, 05:30#10
Guys, don't be angry. These types of articles are written specifically for Denise types. Those that gobble up anything anti Trump and then use it to virtue signal. ...you know, the gullible twats with insecurity issues.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
30 Aug 2024, 08:42
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30 Aug 2024, 08:42#11

Trump's a narcissist & the graveside pose an election photo opportunity ..........his contemptuous scorn  for American fallen heroes, thats well known .

You gotta be a doos to support this doos .

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Aug 2024, 09:11
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30 Aug 2024, 09:11#12

Here's the problem with this kind of reporting. See this article.

See the photo at Hoover's grave, with everyone smiling and no fewer than 4 of the family members also giving thumbs ups. Yet the article leads with only mentioning Trump's thumbs up, and then later and much further down slips in that family members were doing the same. Yet there's no mention of anyone being offended at the family doing that - only at Trump. 

So, what was the vibe? What was the conversation among the family members and with Trump? How did the family feel? Were they mourning or were they proudly celebrating a hero for them? 

We don't know, because reporters writing hit pieces don't care about that.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
30 Aug 2024, 09:17
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30 Aug 2024, 09:17#13

We don't know, because reporters writing hit pieces don't care about that.

Yeah this is clearly a hit piece.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Aug 2024, 13:38
#14
30 Aug 2024, 13:38#14

See ms like Donnie has cost himself some much needed Vets votes. 

Oh well perhaps he doesn't need it.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Aug 2024, 18:32
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30 Aug 2024, 18:32#15

He won't need the idiot votes this will cost him.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Aug 2024, 19:35
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30 Aug 2024, 19:35#16

No the vets won't forget how Biden showed no interest the day the bodies of 13 soldiers killed at the Kabul Airport arrive in hte USA.  He did not speak to the parents and other family members    Biden just kept loking at his wristwatch - it was apparently later than his normal bedtme at 16:00/.   The Vets also know how Biden fucked up teir lives with his crazy policies, and hoiw inflation affected their ives.

Biden also lied about that "no soldiers were killed in the time he was President/        

If you bbe;ieve anything coming fromm the present Government as to inflation arime raets.   Everybody also know that Biden is  a failed President,    - 

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AJHPro3,183 posts
30 Aug 2024, 21:08
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30 Aug 2024, 21:08#17

Spot on CM.

Denny if perhaps you had done any military service I would understand you posting that BS comment.

But you did not.

So bag it rather than passing comment when you are way off base.

PDT has done more for the war Vets than any USA President in history and he will continue when he takes office once more over and above the charity donations he makes to Vets.

Very much unlike. Clinton, Obama and of late "Dishonest Biden".



 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
30 Aug 2024, 21:20
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30 Aug 2024, 21:20#18
Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic.

When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
30 Aug 2024, 21:21
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30 Aug 2024, 21:21#19

Former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly confirmed for the first time the accuracy of reports that his old boss, former President Donald Trump, repeatedly insulted wounded veterans, dead American soldiers who fought in World War I and U.S. service members killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.

What You Need To Know
  • Former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly confirmed for the first time the accuracy of reports that his old boss, former President Donald Trump, repeatedly insulted wounded veterans, dead American soldiers who fought in World War I and U.S. service members killed in Afghanistan and Iraq

  • “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers,” Trump reportedly said of dead World War I service members according to The Atlantic, later calling the 1,800 Marines killed during the bloody Battle of Belleau Wood “suckers” for dying in action
  • According to Kelly and reporting by journalists chronicling Trump, the former president told Kelly he didn’t want wounded veterans at a military parade and asked “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” about soldiers who died in Afghanistan and Iraq and were buried at Arlington National Cemetery

  • He also said Trump was not truthful about his true positions “on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women”

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly wrote in a statement to CNN anchor Jake Tapper. “A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family — for all Gold Star families — on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.”

Kelly’s statement backed up years of reporting in outlets like The Atlantic and books by New Yorker and New York Times journalists. One story, reported by The Atlantic in 2020, described an incident in 2018 when Trump, while visiting France, said he didn’t want to visit the graves of American soldiers buried outside Paris because they were ‘losers.’ Kelly’s statement confirmed the reporting on Monday.

“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers,” Trump reportedly said according to The Atlantic, later calling the 1,800 Marines killed during the bloody Battle of Belleau Wood “suckers” for dying in action. Before serving in the Trump administration, Kelly was a general in the Marine Corps. The Battle of Belleau Wood is considered to be a foundational chapter in Marine mythology.

Spectrum News has reached out to Kelly for comment.

Trump's presidential campaign did not immediately respond to requests for comment from Spectrum News, but initially responded to CNN by attacking retired Joint Chiefs of Staff General Chairman Mark Milley before adding on Tuesday that “John Kelly has totally clowned himself with these debunked stories he’s made up because he didn’t serve his president well while working as chief of staff.”

According to Kelly and reporting by journalists chronicling Trump, the former president — who never served in the military and received draft deferments five times during the Vietnam War — told Kelly he didn’t want wounded veterans at a military parade and asked “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” about soldiers who died in Afghanistan and Iraq and were buried at Arlington National Cemetery.

According to Milley, Trump also tried to bar a wounded Army captain from public appearances after seeing the officer — who lost his leg to an IED attack in Afghanistan after five combat tours — sing “God Bless America” at a Virginia military base. The commander-in-chief reportedly said “no one wants to see that, the wounded.”

In his statement, Kelly went on to describe Trump as “a person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’”

He also said Trump was not truthful about his true positions “on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women.”

While evangelical Christians helped elevate Trump to the White House and continue to support him in overwhelming numbers — with nearly three in 10 white evangelicals believing Trump was anointed by God, according to one recent poll — he reportedly insulted adherents behind closed doors and berated evangelical leaders for insufficient loyalty earlier this year.

While Kelly did not get into specifics, Trump has long been more public in his willingness to wield antisemitism as a political tool and criticize Jewish Americans for their insufficient loyalty in his eyes, as well.

Last year, he dined with antisemites who praised Adolf Hitler and denied the Holocaust. This year, he compared his federal prosecution connected to his attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election to Nazi Germany. In 2017, after white supremacists chanted “Jews will not replace us” during a march in Charlottesville, Virginia, and a neo-Nazi murdered a counterprotester, Trump said there “were very fine people, on both sides,” a remark he defended for years after. Last month, as Jews all over the world celebrated Rosh Hashanah — the start of the new year and one of the holiest days on the Jewish calendar — Trump said those who did not support him in 2020 voted "to destroy America and Israel."

Kelly also condemned Trump’s recent remarks that “in times gone by” Milley, the nation’s highest ranking military officer at the time of the former president’s comments last month, would have been punished with “death” for perceived crimes.

The former chief of staff said he believed Trump said Milley, who Kelly described as “a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war,” should be executed for treason “in expectation that someone will take action.” In an interview with CBS News’ “60 Minutes” over the weekend, Milley said he had “adequate safety precautions” in place to protect himself and his family. 

He’s not alone: Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, recently said he was paying $5,000 a day for private security to protect his family from the supporters of his party’s presidential nominee in 2016 and 2020.

Kelly continued in his statement to call Trump “a person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Aug 2024, 21:33
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30 Aug 2024, 21:33#20

Satan incarnate...not...quit the obsession,  it ain't good for ya...

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
30 Aug 2024, 21:35
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30 Aug 2024, 21:35#21

Hard cheese

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Aug 2024, 22:06
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30 Aug 2024, 22:06#22

They are used by the ultra-corrupt  Democrats who are warmongers they benefit from bribery and corruption involved.   They are ruined by being sent them to die - by the Democratic Party scum of the world.   

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
30 Aug 2024, 23:44
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30 Aug 2024, 23:44#23

More reason to show the fallen heroes respect.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Aug 2024, 07:15
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31 Aug 2024, 07:15#24

As he did...on numerous occasions...personally being there with the famalies of the fallen when the planes arrived carrying their bodies home...the way this photo is being twisted into something it's not...Trump has his failings...disrespecting the military and their fallen isn't one of them, not by a long shot.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
31 Aug 2024, 23:01
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31 Aug 2024, 23:01#25


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Sept 2024, 06:57
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01 Sept 2024, 06:57#26
Top Oversight Committee Dem seeks 'full account' from Army secretary on Arlington incident

Rep. Jamie Raskin, the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, demanded Friday a "full account" of a reported incident between Donald Trump and his campaign and their collective appearance this week at Arlington National Cemetery.

Trump and his campaign faced intense backlash following a reported physical altercation with a cemetery official and faced questions over whether they may have violated federal law banning campaign materials from being photographed or filmed in certain sections of the cemetery.

A TikTok video showed Trump in Section 60, where the altercation purportedly occurred, smiling and giving a thumbs-up. Trump has said the family of a soldier laid to rest in the section invited him, and his campaign has said they were allowed to ring a photographer.

"The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump's team during a very solemn ceremony," spokesman Steven Cheung said in the statement.

Now, Raskin wants to get to the bottom of what happened and whether any laws were violated.

In a letter to Christine Wormuth, secretary of the Army, Raskin referenced reports of a "verbal and physical altercation" between members of the Trump campaign and cemetery staff.

In doing so, he asked the Army secretary to hand the committee an incident report and deliver a briefing on what happened, "including whether Trump campaign staff violated federal law or Cemetery rules and whether the Trump campaign informed the families of servicemembers buried at the Cemetery that their gravestones would be used in Mr. Trump's political campaign ads."

Raskin later said that while Trump was at the cemetery for a wreath-laying event, it appeared his campaign arrived with a photographer and videographer and "completely flouted the laws and rules they were informed of and filmed footage in the restricted area for use in a political Tik Tok video."

To boot, he said, campaign staffers also "allegedly engaged" in an altercation with a cemetery staffer who tried to enforce rules "aimed at preserving the sanctity and nonpartisan character of the Cemetery."


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
01 Sept 2024, 07:31
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01 Sept 2024, 07:31#27

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Sept 2024, 07:38
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01 Sept 2024, 07:38#28

The latte photo is typical BS again.  Te other epople on it are latives of the fallen soldiiers ad tey do not seem unhappy with  the photo at all.  At least Trump contacted the parents and famly members - Biden never did.   

This type of propaganda BS is dfor brainwashed idiots only.   S o since you do not know anything you carry on with  TDS anywaqy,

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2024, 09:15
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01 Sept 2024, 09:15#29

Pathetic partisan BS.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Sept 2024, 09:46
#30
01 Sept 2024, 09:46#30

No surprise...........same old Trump cult defence. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Sept 2024, 10:24
#31
01 Sept 2024, 10:24#31

Same old Trump hating nonsense...no surprise...

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Sept 2024, 08:39
#32
02 Sept 2024, 08:39#32

No hate but tell me and this is a no strings attached question

Do you think that he would have lost or gained Vet votes after copping bad publicity for his actions?


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Sept 2024, 09:57
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02 Sept 2024, 09:57#33

This thead is total Media BS swallwoed by the brainwshed on site.    It si e sme elvela s BS as was the story about  Vance as well.   

The media cannt go lwer than they are at present.   They are delcving up issues hat in he past has been proven as BS and lies.   

     

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
02 Sept 2024, 10:05
#34
02 Sept 2024, 10:05#34

https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/politics/ap-trump-once-condemned-the-jan-6-rioters-now-hes-become-one-of-their-biggest-supporters/


Trump once condemned the Jan. 6 rioters. Now he’s become one of their biggest supporters FILE – Former President Donald Trump stands while a song, “Justice for All,” is played during a campaign rally at Waco Regional Airport, March 25, 2023, in Waco, Texas. The song features a choir of men imprisoned for their role in the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol singing the national anthem and a recording of Trump reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

by: JILL COLVIN, Associated Press



This is an archived article and the information in the article may be outdated. Please look at the time stamp on the story to see when it was last updated.

NEW YORK (AP) — The day after Jan. 6, 2021, then-President Donald Trump denounced the rioters who violently stormed the Capitol building, breaking through barricades, battling law enforcement and sending members of Congress — who were set to formally certify his reelection loss — running for their lives.

“Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem,” he said in a video, condemning what he called a “heinous attack.”

That condemnation was delayed and only offered amid widespread criticism — including from fellow Republicans — for his role in sparking the mayhem. But 2 1/2 years later, any sign of regret or reprimand from Trump has vanished as he prepares to face federal criminal charges for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Now the early but commanding front-runner in the 2024 Republican presidential primary, Trump regularly downplays the violence, lionizes the rioters as patriots and spreads false claims about who was involved. He has not only vowed to pardon a “large portion” of Jan. 6 defendants if he wins a second term, but he has also fundraised for them, befriended their families and collaborated on a song that became a surprise iTunes hit.

“They were there proud, they were there with love in their heart. … And it was a beautiful day,” Trump said at a recent CNN town hall. When asked if he had any regrets about his actions that day, Trump voiced no remorse and instead seemed most concerned about the lack of attention paid to his crowd size.

“Jan. 6: It was the largest crowd I’ve ever spoken to,” he said.

Trump was always reluctant to condemn the actions of supporters spurred by his lies of a stolen election. As the violence unfolded, Trump ignored the desperate pleas of aides and allies to denounce the rioters and ask them to stand down. And when he did speak out, hours later, his response was tepid: He said he loved the rioters and shared their pain.

Trump’s evolution began at a time when he was garnering relatively little mainstream media coverage. And it echoed the efforts of some Republicans in Congress, who had tried to recast the mob as nonviolent despite reams of video footage, public testimony and accounts from members of Congress, journalists and Capitol Police officers, 140 of whom were injured that day.

It also coincided with a broader shift in public opinion. Polling from Monmouth University showed that between March and November 2021, Republicans grew increasingly likely to say the anger that led to the Capitol attack was justified, with 54% saying the anger was either fully or partially justified in the fall — up from 40% that spring.

The Pew Research Center also found that, between March and September 2021, Republicans grew less likely to say it was important for law enforcement agencies to find and prosecute the rioters. Only 57% said that it was very or somewhat important in the fall, down from about 8 in 10 six months earlier.


That March, in an interview with Fox News Channel’s Laura Ingraham, Trump claimed the rioters had posed “zero threat” to the lawmakers who had assembled in the Capitol to certify the Electoral College vote — even though the mob tried to breach the House chamber.

“Look, they went in — they shouldn’t have done it. Some of them went in, and they’re hugging and kissing the police and the guards, you know, they had a great relationship,” he said.

In fact, many of the protesters violently clashed with police as they stormed the building, smashing windows and ramming through doors. Some brandished weapons; others wore tactical gear. Dozens of officers were severely injured.

By that time, many of Trump’s supporters had already painted Ashli Babbitt, one of five people who died during or immediately after the riot, as a martyr unjustly killed by police,

Babbitt was fatally shot by an officer while trying to climb through the broken window of a barricaded door as Capitol Police scrambled to evacuate members.

That summer, Trump began to publicly demand the release of the shooter’s identity, despite the officer being cleared of wrongdoing by two federal investigations.

“Who shot Ashli Babbitt?” Trump asked repeatedly.

Trump called Babbitt “an innocent, wonderful, incredible woman” in an interview with Fox News and described his supporters that day in glowing terms, claiming that there had been a “love fest between the Capitol police and the people that walked down to the Capitol.”

“They were peaceful people. These were great people. The crowd was unbelievable,” he said. “And I mentioned the word ‘love.’ The love — the love in the air, I’ve never seen anything like it.”

That fall, Trump taped a video that was played at an event commemorating what would have been Babbitt’s birthday in which he demanded “justice” for her and her family.

In January 2022, Trump first publicly dangled the prospect of pardons for the Jan. 6 defendants at a rally in Texas.

“If I run and if I win, we will treat those people from Jan. 6 fairly,” he told the crowd. “And if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons because they are being treated so unfairly.” At that point, more than 670 people had been convicted of crimes related to the attack, including some found guilty of seditious conspiracy and assaulting police officers.

In September 2022, Trump told conservative radio host Wendy Bell that he was helping some of the defendants, though aides declined at the time to elaborate or say how much he had contributed.

“I’m financially supporting people that are incredible, and they were in my office actually two days ago. It’s very much on my mind,” he said. “It’s a disgrace what they’ve done to them. … Contributions should be made.”

Days later, Trump held a rally in Pennsylvania that included remarks from Cynthia Hughes, the founder of the Patriot Freedom Project, whose nephew was convicted for storming the Capitol. Geri Perna, whose nephew died by suicide while awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty to riot-related charges, also spoke.

Later that month, the former president called into a small rally held outside a Washington jail where Jan. 6 defendants have been held, led by Micki Witthoeft, Babbitt’s mother.

“We’re with you. We’re working with a lot of different people on this. And we can’t let this happen,” he said via a cellphone held up to a microphone.

Trump’s support has only intensified since he formally launched his third campaign.

Earlier this year, he collaborated on “Justice for All,” a song that features a choir of Jan. 6 defendants singing “The Star-Spangled Banner,” recorded over a prison phone line and overlaid with Trump reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.

Trump featured the song at the first official rally of his 2024 campaign, standing with his hand on his heart as a music video featuring violent footage of the riot played behind him on two giant screens.

In June, he spoke at a Patriot Freedom Project fundraiser to support the defendants that was held at his Bedminster, New Jersey, club.

“They’ve been made to pay a price that is very unfair, in many cases,” he said.

Trump also recorded a video played at the group’s holiday fundraising event in Washington and hosted a dinner for family members of Jan. 6 defendants at Mar-a-Lago in March.

“He is very concerned for these families,” Hughes said after the event.

An Associated Press review of social media posts, voter registrations, court files and other public records found that the mob was overwhelmingly made up of longtime Trump supporters, including GOP officials, donors and far-right militants.

But that hasn’t stopped Trump from falsely claiming that others were responsible for the attack, including antifa and Black Lives Matter. Last weekend on his social media site, Trump amplified messages claiming that Jan. 6 had been a “staged riot” orchestrated by the government.

Trump was still in charge of the government at the time.

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Associated Press writer Linley Sanders contributed to this report.





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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
02 Sept 2024, 11:31
#35
02 Sept 2024, 11:31#35

To the stupid idiots trying to blame Donald Trump for this.... there is only one opinion that matters on this sprecific issue ..... or should I say, there are actually 13 opinions that matter on this issue, and that is the opinion of all 13 families who lost their children, brother or sister on that day.

Family members of the 13 people who lost someone that day, and were with Trump at this wreath laying memorial, because they all specifically invited Trump to attend it...... have not only defended and vindicated Donald Trump, but they have also each correctly directed their anger and the blame of losing those family members, directly at Kamala Harris's feet, through her administration.

If you can't in any way respect the fact that this is what happened and that this is what they all personally believe and had to say about this specific Arlington incident, then your hatred towards Donald Trump just went up a notch.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
02 Sept 2024, 12:47
#36
02 Sept 2024, 12:47#36

bb I trust you know all about general elections and how to select a suitable candidate from your experience supporting the BB in RSA.

Thanks.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Sept 2024, 16:57
#37
02 Sept 2024, 16:57#37

"bb I trust you know all about general elections and how to select a suitable candidate from your experience supporting the BB in RSA."

Who is the BB?

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Sept 2024, 17:02
#38
02 Sept 2024, 17:02#38

Months away from the election I put the same no strings attached question I put to Draad......do you think Trump won or gained votes by his actions?

A yes or no will do.

tx.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Sept 2024, 18:06
#39
02 Sept 2024, 18:06#39

I don't think he lost any votes...I think the partisan opportunism is obvious for most observers...and voters.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Sept 2024, 18:57
#40
02 Sept 2024, 18:57#40
". . . do you think Trump won or gained votes by his actions?"
Incredibly, I think it's possible that he gained votes.
Look, for all their boasting about how great the USA is, the Yanks are a pretty stupid nation. Presidential candidates like Joe Biden, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris tell you everything you need to know about how stupid Americans are . . . but let's accept the fact that Bozo is the most polarising person in modern history and accept that 50% of people are stupid enough to still believe his bullshit while the other 50% have at least the intelligence to see him for what he is . . . it's going to be a close call and it's going to come down to small details.
That's how close it is right now. I always check out the bookies. A year ago. Bozo was at about 1.4 while Krusty was at 2.5 or longer. When Biden thankfully bowed out and Kamala took over, she had a tremendous surge and for a while she was the bookies favourite to win the 2024 election but since then, Bozo has shortened and is at 1.8 to Kamala's 1.9.
Don't think I've seen an election as tight as this. this close to election day. Talk about the lesser of two evils!
Anyway - back to topic - it's clear that there are enough American people so lacking in intelligence, decency and class that the sight of this buffoon giving a thumbs up probably brought forth a "hell yeah" and a quick air practice at making the cross in Bozo's box on the ballot sheet.
Safe to say that in certain states Bozo's photo-op went down very well while in others, people are face-palming and asking if this is really happening. A second term of Bozo.
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