Tucker Carlson . . .

I never liked this man when he was a Bozo suck-up . . . which he was for a number of years . . . but I've just watched this video and he speaks for me now.

Watch this, I urge you.

This is exactly why, in today's politic I have much more respect for the right. They are willing to fracture on principle and don't simply close ranks and agree even when they actually don't.

He's angry at Israel and he is a total non interventionist...hates the fact that America is involved in the ME... he's been constantly like that, that's why he supported Trump...he sees the current war as a betrayal...will listen when I have time, thanks... haven't watched him for a while.

I watched that from start to finish. There were times when Tucker's ads were interrupted by Youtube ads and it's a long watch, but it is compelling proof that Bozo is a dangerous clown being advised by a very small group of hand-picked sycophants.

Tucker has always been an honest journo. That's been my impression anyway. Nobody is ever right 100% of the time but if they're honest about what they think then I can get behind them.

But if he speaks for you now then perhaps it's worth going back and watching him talk about COVID and also Russia.

Ummm . . . no, that's not the case at all. Tucker was a Trumpanzee once, right?

Yes?

So wouldn't it be fair to say that Tucker has come around to my way of thinking?

I don't know what your way of thinking is other than that you dislike everything Trump does.

Would be nice if Trump never existed because he's currently the full stop that punctuates every conversation and it's been that way for too long.

I guess I'm just bored of hearing the exact same opinions on him repeated infinitely.

"Ummm . . . no, that's not the case at all. Tucker was a Trumpanzee once, right?

Yes?

So wouldn't it be fair to say that Tucker has come around to my way of thinking?"

No not really...only on the issues pertaining to Iran, Israel and American military intervention...and that was always his stance, Tucker was never a Trupanzee, he supported Trump when their views aligned...Tucker didn't change, Trump's actions did.

Absolute rubbish.

Tucker was a full-on card-carrying official Trumpanzee who even supported Bozo after Jan 6th and joined in the "rigged election" bullshit.

Credit to him for seeing the light but let's not pretend he wasn't just another Bozo suck-up at one point.

Has anyone watched the video?

No, not rubbish...those who've actually listened to him over the years would know this...and we saw the shift happening in real time...

What shift are you talking about, Draad?

"Tucker was never a Trupanzee, ....."

Ag Jirre!!!

I'm don't agree with your take on Tucker.

To my mind, he's always said what he believes and hasn't shied away from facts.

As I recall he was let go from Fox because he didn't agree with the Dominion voting machine accusations. On air he was asking questions about the machines but behind the scenes he was reportedly calling the accusations false. To me that says that Fox wanted him to push a particular narrative, one that any blind follower of Trump would happily push, but he wasn't buying it and it lead to him getting fired. I actually recall some of his reporting at the time and while he was on air asking questions about the machines and covering elements around the scepticism, he was apparently not accusatory of Dominion enough for Fox's liking.

But here's the problem. From the Trump hating perspective, nothing Trump has ever said or done is correct and none of it ever had good consequences. And that would mean that anybody that agreed with Trump or supported what he was doing at a particular time, was then a "Trumpanzee" for the time period/s that they agreed with what he was doing.

Take COVID as an example. Trump was pushing for Wuhan to be looked at, and I fully agree with that point, and so did Tucker. But the "scientists" acting entirely unscientifically said the lab leak hypothesis was both racist and a conspiracy theory. So, if you agreed with Trump and felt that ALL potential origins of the virus should be investigated with the same unbiased scientific approach... you're a Trumpanzee. If you you felt that the political establishment was to cosy with the deep state and you feel that those ties need to be severed...you're a Trumpanzee. Forgetting of course that this is exactly why the American people voted for Trump in the first place, because he was an outsider who didn't appear to have those connections. Again, something i fully agreed with.

Once you remove Trump's personality and look at things he did and has tried to do, for me it doesn't matter who it was, I'd have been onboard with a lot of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them and I;m happy to list many of them here. And i feel that many of you Trump haters would also have been onboard had it not specifically been Trump doing those things.

My conclusion is that people cannot look past Trump. I do find it ironic, Rooi, that you seem to suggest that "Trumpanzees" can see no wrong in what Trump does, while at the same time I can ask you to find me a any post from yourself, Denise, Blo, Stav or Shark that praises anything that that he has done which ended up with positive outcomes. Of course, I can very easily find you posts from the people you claim are "Trumpanzees" that do in fact criticise Trump. Hell, I've posted a good deal of them, and also shared videos and links that criticise him.

So, I've got to ask, because i know you're pretty logical, who would appear to be the most reasonable, and even if not objective to a degree that you might approve of, indeed more objective that the list of Trump haters i named above?

To me, in an battle of Trumpanzees and TDS sufferers, on balance, the TDS sufferers need to take much harder and much longer look in the mirror than the "Trumpanzees" do.

Tucker was a Bozo suck-up. Just go back and look what he had to say about Jan 6th if you don't believe me.

Tucker has finally seen through Bozo and now you guys are trying to pretend I've switched to Tucker's way of thinking when the opposite is clearly true.

Let Draad answer the question . . . what "shift" is he referring to?

The Trumpanzee species are the TDS sufferers. Apparenly Trump has a 100% approval ratings amongist the MAGA part of the conservative voters. Only cults have that type of support.

Once inflation goes up again, that might make a dent in the MAGA base. Also, if there are boots on the ground, and it turns into another Vietnam. So far, America is just making long-range pot shots with minimal risk of deaths. They have better weapons than Iran, so it is a no-risk situation. Only neutral countries in the Middle-east at at risk from Iran's counterattack.

Tucker Carlson is not a real media person. He is entertainment, with very loose connections to facts.

Tucker does not believe much of the stuff he spouts.

When he promoted election conspiracies in the media, he went to court for Fox News and said that he did not believe any of it. Ditto with Shawn Hannity. Tucker is also vaccinated, but he was happy to make money spinning vaccine conspiracies - some of his viewers were not vaccinated in part due to this misinformation.

Tucker has increasingly become critical of Israel and the people in the US government lobbying for Israeli interests...go watch his interview with Ted Cruz ...yes he was for Trump in the 2024 elections and yes he questioned some of the things about the 2020 elections, but also criticized Trump for going too far after the 2020 results.

He was a Trumpanzee. If you can't see that then there's no point debating this any further.

At least he's seen the light at long last.

It's not debating to just put a label on someone without going into details...he supported Trump against Harris ...he will do something similar in the future... support the things he agree with and be vocal about the things he doesn't agree with.

He suported Bozo's pathetic crybaby antics after he lost the 2020 election. That should tell you everything you need to know.

There are serious problems with election integrity in the USA... highlighting the problems is his job...he didn't support all Trump's actions after the election...