UK - US

When one looks at what is happening around the world, and has been for the last few years now, but until recently has really become very bad, when is there actually going to be some sort of intervention regarding the massive amount of immigrants that are coming into these countries.

Then when one looks at just how these immigrants are behaving towards their host country and citizens, it also beggars belief.

The sheer audacity and arrogance to see what they are doing and demanding from these countries is just absolutely crazy.... the entitled statements that they are making on public streets is madness....demanding - demanding - demanding ...

The attacking of the UK and US in these marches and constant protests by these immigrants is very concerning, especially when you consider that they still want to stay in these countries, yet openly mock their laws, beliefs and values..

The recent and numerous "Death to America" chants on the streets of America recently is just mental ..... deport these people..... why even give them the privilege of staying in your country?

Even over the weekend, in New York, where these 20 - 30 migrants, who could hardly speak English... refused to leave the school playing field so they could have a sports game... even after the police arrived and asked them to leave, so the game got cancelled.

Then look at what the Muslims are doing in these countries, it just seems to me that these two countries in particular are slowly but surely systematically being stripped of their heritage and their very way of life.... by making them feel guilty about either what has happened in the past, or with their current laws and regulations being too "racist" "biased" etc etc so they get changed or amended to accommodate the new arrivals.

They all seem to really hate these countries, yet can't wait to get them and their families into these countries...

Most news articles in these countries constantly focus on what the white man does wrong to almost every other ethnicity ....and hardly ever the other way round, because that just does not fit the narrative, despite some very horrific Black on White and Black on Asian hate crimes. 

In 30 - 50 years from now, Britain won't be Britain, with it's rich English history, and the way some of the streets are looking in the US, it is going the same way. 

I am genuinely concerned with how the rise in these immigrants is going to affect these two countries in particular in the long term, and in some areas in the UK already, especially London, it's like a mini warzone going on, with so many youngs kids fighting these turf - drug - gang wars... with no respect for any human life.

This is going to hit a boiling point in these countries at some stage, and some people are already saying that the US is the closest it has ever been before, to another civil war....

I think immigration should be a give and take relationship. For example if 20,000 people from the UK go live in the Australia per year, then 20,000 Australians should be allowed to be allowed to live in the UK per year.

Countries with bad relations with the UK (E.g. Iran, or the Arab world in general) should remain where they are. I would not import Africans either as like Muslims they have far too many kids they cant afford to provide for. This creates poverty, which leads to crime.

Countries with ecomical prosperity have around 1.7 kids. Poor countries have on average 7.0.
2.2 is the percentage to maintain a population size.

These countries need to follow a China model of capping the number of kids so they can get back to building a middle class and working class, rather than having lots of people that cant work because of lack of education and their unfortunate background

Unfortunatelythe present situation si destroying the cuklklture of countries and introducing  terrorism into the two countries are to be expected since there are zero control over the influx and who are entering the countries.     There have been 9 million encounters with illegal migrants  and even people entering  the USA on the terror watch list is let into the country.   Aside for that there are approximately 1,2 million that entered the country without even being detected.

The biggest profit margin for the Mexican Cartels at present is noit drug smuggling - it is people smuggling into the USA.    The Repoublican Party initially stated no aid to Ukraine unless the border is closed,   The emdia never reported on the Open Border issue and deny there is a problem - but a string  of women has been murdered - but th e media and Biden refused to  call the alleged murderers illegal migrants.

TJhe Open Border Policy has been compiled by the George Soros  organization and his son has monthly meetings with the WH to ensure the policies are carried out.   The present issue is contrary to the USA Immigration Law and when the House submitted a Law to stop the rot - the Senate refuse to table it.   Biden then cxame abcxk with a law that would allow him to close the border to rpevent more than 5000 milgals entering the country per day. and it would not even be discussed it in the House.

The problem si that the Govenmnts in both the USA  and the UK are weak and open to manipulation by their political party funders like Soros  and Gates and their objectives are to destroy the EU Countries through their Open Border Policy and through that attain a borderless world - which can then be contriolled by the ultra-rich.    

The whole offensive is part of  an attack on demcoracy in the world.   Biden is just a puppet used by the ultra-rich to control the USA and ultimately all demcoractic countries in the world.  The rich control the emdia and in the UJSA and even in the UK they ldo not allow criticism of the Government in any form.   

In the USA they have gone further - they use the F BI tto undemine opposition to the Government - if you oppose Biden you are treated as a "domestic terrorist"   I do not think the USA can be saved from disaster unless the ultra-leftists controlling the D emcoratic Party is defeated.    

In the meantime in the USA the Government treat the illegal migran ts better than they treat their own citizens.    One wonders how long that situation prevails in the USA before a civil war eruted in the country.    

I saw a video in which an ex-CIA member openly claim that the USA citizens will be in a situation that they would be imprisoned in their own country and his advice to them was  to flee from the country before 2030.   It would be a disaster for them if they stay.   h e mentioend that they may flee tio Europe or beleive that they could even go to SA.   He would not recommend Australia - since the Chinese eye takeover of that country as well.

Around the world Demcoracy is collapsing and wars are on the cards.     The fact that countries are joining BRICS are due to that situation.    The USA is militarily the weakest it was since 1918 and despite what claims their are in the media they fled from Vietnam and after 23 years they did the same from Afghanistan.   

F act is the USA wanted to use Ukraine as a means to attack Russia and openly stated that if Russia loses the war they ebleive they can topple the Rssian G ov ernment and appoint their own selected people to control the country through a puppet G overnment - like the situation at present is in the USA and EU countries where the political direction of countries are controlled by the WEF - in other words the ultra-rich.    

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Shitory alert!

There are a lot more people becoming very vocal about this huge concern... especially with the amount of hate that is currently being put on display very openly on the streets of America.

Why you would let someone come to your own home... just to stand on your front lawn and scream to all your neighbours about how much he wants to burn your house down, with your family in it ....and then let him come back day after day after day.... and do the exact same thing, whilst tying to drum up support from your fellow neighbours to join him in burning your house down.

Get rid of the scum.... send them back to where they come from

Not sure why a country must bend it's own laws, religion, beliefs or values to accommodate someone else who knew very clearly what they were before they wanted to get into that very country.

Accommodate their beliefs to some extent...fine, but to cancel, amend or apologize for your own, in your own country is madness.

There are serious issues brewing in the UK right now.... something will push it past the boiling point in the near future.....

 Stav

If I am not msitaken  - but there were riots in Ireland against the influx of  ilelgal mirants allocated by the EU to Irelamnd and the threat it represet to the Irish  people and culture and an hotel were te mgrants were accommodated was n fact burned down.    You were totally quiet on the issue - even when  asked wjhat you think about it.    Does that show happiness by the people of Ireland about the Open Border Policy of the EU.

The farmers in the EU couintries are protesting against their.G ov enments about the Global Warming conspricary against them by the EU as well.    I in think asked you about the Irish  farmers reacting in the same way the D utch  reacted and the Nehterlands Government is still in jeopardy after the Governng party lost control of the situation in elections.   Youir response at the time was that there is no political situation similar to those in the Netherlands.- and on that I warn  you if G overnments attack their own people such situations arise without warning.    

I looked at the Irish Opinion polls and the present Irish Government seems to be in free fall with the largest growth in support being  for the Independendent - Other grouping which in the election in March next year is set to be the majority grouping in the Irish parliament.    Watch out you have been warned about it..    

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Stav

Weak response - do you really live in Ireland  and ignore what I wrote at your peril if you really beleive inthe BS spouted by the EU.  \

I did not mention Biden - he si nto worth anything and is bound to destroy the USA  if he si re-elected.   He was and is a dangerous and corrupt idiot anyway despite the media propaganda protecting him.

I am going to follow the EU election and the Greens are going to lose badly in all EU countries anyway.      No amount of media BS is going to protect them this time arouind.    .      .       

Unfortunately Mike pollutes every string he joins with his bombastic nonsense. And he can’t be persuaded by logic, statistics, examples. Worse yet when he is losing a debate his mouth becomes as filthy as any poster on the Board.

He is rapidly reaching the point where he is never worth engaging.

Not only the UK and USA...this is a world wide problem...even South Africa has loads of immigrants/migrants...Voortrekker Road from Maitland to Bellville is overrun by Somalis, Congolese and Nigerians and Pakistanis. Bangladeshis and Moroccans with shops at all malls and mini malls...owns all the corner shops or old Seven-11s....nie meer 'n Porra, Joodse of Griekse winkeltjie in sig nêrens meer nie.

Mozart

let me nbe polite for a change.   I think that somne fo the sourcxes you quote are biased and very much opposed to what is really the case,   That may mean that I try ancd find out what really drive the situaaion and not what th e media wants me to believe is the cazs.

So - I sometimes goes to fa by calling  insulting  names and descriptions to you.   Apologies for that.\

But i t hink to get a more fruitful discussions of sisues better conduct on both sides would be ssntial.       

I tried a few weeks back in the other sports section to encourage you to be a bit more collegial after you posted a nice piece on Rublev and other players. No response. So hopefully this time you want to make a bit of an effort, I think you might be happier on the Board.

Also just for the record, let me restate my position. I don’t approve of unplanned immigration, except in cases of genuine need. But I don’t believe immigrants as a group are a lesser human being. These people work damn hard….but still the kind of immigration DA is describing is a threat to our cultures.

On Trump I have said many times I don’t believe the Russian collusion story and that the attempts to eliminate him as a political entity through the courts is not democracy.

On the other hand the behavior Trump exhibited after the election was unworthy of a president. In the process he destroyed Giuliani and others. I don’t believe the American public will reelect him.

And I have always disliked Biden….a union president personality. And much of what Hunter was doing is inappropriate and only happened because of his ties to his father. The investigations were unsatisfactory at best.

But I don’t believe Biden or a group of successful businessmen are trying to destroy America and install some kind of world government.

The biggest risk barring a conflict between nuclear powers is the huge amount of debt being created by many leading countries. That’s the ticking time bomb. But best I can discern neither party is serious about tackling this…nor are other countries.

Your views are probably the same in some cases, very different in others like the Ukraine. Part of free speech is being able to express your views. I think we can certainly agree on that.

"These people work damn hard….but still the kind of immigration DA is describing is a threat to our cultures"

Yep, exactly what I am referring to... the heritage, the culture, the values, the beliefs ....

Why this guy is still permitted to reside in the US surprises me

Death to America

When I came to America getting a green card was a major privilege. You weren’t forced into identifying with everything in the culture as you are in some countries, but you were expected to respect the country as a whole. It’s a low bar and it’s about time the country asked for at least that again.

Mozart

You went to the USA after applying and getting a green card in other words you entered the country legally and that represents no problem.     The fact is that there is an immigration law at present that prevent people jsut etetering the USA through a border where no control was execrcuted and the law ignored.

There is at present no bar set and over 9 million people ntered the country without virtually no control at all and it is clear that the Biden Administration has no intention to curb illegal migrants enterng the country.   Why would that be the case - I think it represents the betrayal of the national interests of the country. and the people of the  USA.

I do not think that the Muslims shouting "Death to Amrca" should be in the country - since they inevitably will bring another 100  9/11 disasters to the country.    That in the end will really means "Death of America".    

I agree the bar should be raised - but there is no indication that the present Administration will raise the bar at all.    The only bar Biden wants to raise is to get them registered as voters and that without even being ciitzens of the USA - that according to a written isntrution he signed.   But then Biden also believe Transgression .Illumination Day should  replace one of the holiest days of Christianity and the holiday is also sacred to the Jews.   I do not think that  Biden really knows what he signs anyway.

I give Israel five years before elimination ot the country if the Biden Administration in the USA is retained.   There are extremist elements in the Biden Adminsitration who hates Israel as much as the Nazi's hated the Jews. and they are apparently the heroes of the media in the USA.                               .