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Ukraine has only got 10 Brigades left meaning between 30 to 40 thousand troops

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2023, 07:37
#1
26 Jul 2023, 07:37#1

Russia is advancing. This war is about done.


Colonel McGregor goes on to make some very good points. The war makes no sense to him. But of course it makes a lot of sense to the globalists out to destroy both Europe and America.

Colonel McGregor discusses illegal immigration with his usual common sense. 



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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
26 Jul 2023, 07:50
#2
26 Jul 2023, 07:50#2

"If they don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them."

Colonel Douglas MacGregor February 27th 2022

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2023, 08:15
#3
26 Jul 2023, 08:15#3

If the Ukrainian army follow the US orders to fighton they will be annihilated.

War mongers like stavASS hope the Ukrainians will fight to the last man. StavASS should go to Ukraine and get to the frontline. Would the twit last a day. 

How is the invasion of Ireland going StavASS?

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
26 Jul 2023, 09:12
#4
26 Jul 2023, 09:12#4

If the Ukrainian army follow the US orders to fighton they will be annihilated.

Well then just as well as the Ukrainian army isn't following US orders.

War mongers like stavASS hope the Ukrainians will fight to the last man. StavASS should go to Ukraine and get to the frontline. Would the twit last a day. 

The only war mongers are those who support Russia's invasion. I might not last a day but knowing you I doubt you'd get out of boot camp, probably shoot yourself holding the gun the wrong way.

How is the invasion of Ireland going StavASS?

Just looking out my windows and I don't see any invasion?


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Jul 2023, 10:56
#5
26 Jul 2023, 10:56#5

In The Guardian story I published there were some interesting comments.   Even though Stav believes the Guardian BS   they dish up as news.

Stav claimed the Ukraine army in 3 weeks  occupied nearly as much as territory as the Russian did in six months.    That was commence on a claim I made that the Ukraine army was on retreat after the Bakmut battle.   He went on - supported by Mozart - indicating a purple area rgained by Ukraine during the Counter-offensive.   

In the article it was claimed that Ukraine dedicated a total of 9 brigades to the counter-offensive.  So how many soldiers  make up a brigade.   In Google it stated a brigade consists of at least 2000 soldiers - but there are also supporting staff like medical and nursing staff who are not fighting soldiers involved,   So lets put the brigade strength at 3 to 4 thousand soldiers. The article claimed and it as confirmed by other sources  That the Ukraine sued only 3 brigades thus far in the counter-offensive (ie about 10 thousand men).   

At one stage Zelenskyy suspended the counter-offensive quoted in an NMSD news item - which was since removed,   What was instead said was that Zelenskyy does not want to see the uge number of casualties expected from a fully-launched counter offensive.

However, I think there are problems faced by the Ukraine army.    Wikipedia claimed  there are  12 brigades to be used in the counter-offensive - Col McGregor spoke of 10 brigades and the Guardian of 9 brigades,    so lets look at the numbers:-

*    Wikipedia    -     40 000 men

*    Col Mc Gregor -  35 000 men

*    The Guardian  -    30 000 men

Zelenskyy fired the commanding general of the fighting forces in Eastern Ukraine.   he did not give any reasons for the firing - but there were two obvious reasons, namely -

*    criticism by 3 Ukraine generals that only 30% of the equipment provided by the USA reached the fighting forces and the scoundrel was the Minister of Defense, but Zelenskyy refused to fire him; 

*     The fired commanding general realized that useless  attacks concocted by the suppliers of armaments to Ukraine and the Ukraine government caused massive losses for the Ukraine Army.

Forcast - if the Zelenskyy Government carry on with suicidal attacks the Ukraine army would take over the Government and start negotiations with the Russians as to a ceasefire.                        

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
26 Jul 2023, 11:31
#6
26 Jul 2023, 11:31#6

In The Guardian story I published there were some interesting comments.   Even though Stav believes the Guardian BS   they dish up as news.

Gotta love it. Mike posts a story from the guardian and its legit, any other story from the Guardian is BS!

Stav claimed the Ukraine army in 3 weeks  occupied nearly as much as territory as the Russian did in six months.

Yes that was an assessment from the ISW.

That was commence on a claim I made that the Ukraine army was on retreat after the Bakmut battle.

No one disputes Russia captured Bakhmut and the Ukrainian's where pushed back in that area. Ukraine is now pushing back to the south of Bakhmut and appear to be attempting to encircle it.

He went on - supported by Mozart - indicating a purple area rgained by Ukraine during the Counter-offensive.

Purple? The area was marked in blue. How can you get simply things so wrong.

In the article it was claimed that Ukraine dedicated a total of 9 brigades to the counter-offensive.  So how many soldiers  make up a brigade.   In Google it stated a brigade consists of at least 2000 soldiers - but there are also supporting staff like medical and nursing staff who are not fighting soldiers involved,   So lets put the brigade strength at 3 to 4 thousand soldiers. The article claimed and it as confirmed by other sources  That the Ukraine sued only 3 brigades thus far in the counter-offensive (ie about 10 thousand men).   

The sources I've seen have Ukraine with 12 spearhead brigades assigned to break the Russian lines with at least 10 more brigades possibly up to 23 earmarked to exploit any breakthrough. 

However, I think there are problems faced by the Ukraine army.    Wikipedia claimed  there are  12 brigades to be used in the counter-offensive - Col McGregor spoke of 10 brigades and the Guardian of 9 brigades,    so lets look at the numbers:-

*    Wikipedia    -     40 000 men

*    Col Mc Gregor -  35 000 men

*    The Guardian  -    30 000 men

Even if those numbers are roughly correct, they are only the numbers for the counter offensive. Ukrainian's has hundreds of thousands of troops across the frontline and rear area's.

Zelenskyy fired the commanding general of the fighting forces in Eastern Ukraine.   he did not give any reasons for the firing - but there were two obvious reasons, namely

 * criticism by 3 Ukraine generals that only 30% of the equipment provided by the USA reached the fighting forces and the scoundrel was the Minister of Defense, but Zelenskyy refused to fire him; 

No Ukrainian generals made such a statement. Your simply lying as always.

*     The fired commanding general realized that useless  attacks concocted by the suppliers of armaments to Ukraine and the Ukraine government caused massive losses for the Ukraine Army.

And more made up shit.

Forcast - if the Zelenskyy Government carry on with suicidal attacks the Ukraine army would take over the Government and start negotiations with the Russians as to a ceasefire.       

Forecast, you will continue to make more idiotic commentary about the Ukraine war.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Jul 2023, 12:16
#7
26 Jul 2023, 12:16#7

Stav

Those claims by the Russian Generals were the basis of a question asked in the US Senate and under oath the DF representative said there were  problems with delivery to the army and a US Colonel was sent to Kiev to co-ordinate the delivery of arms to Ukraine.   The US Army also sent 200 men to Kiev and when that was exposed Biden claimed they have sent 200 troops to Kiev to  guard the US Embassy.   Total BS -troops to Ukraine to help with delivery of the arms to he Ukraine Army.   That was again something you call a lie - but is a fact.

In your mind the truth hurts and the truth is not what you claim on site.  What you claim is total BS.   If the Ukraine  have hundreds of thousands of reserve troops where did they come from and why are t hey not used facing about 200 000 Russians in East Ukraine and only 10 000  troops used in the counter-attack you claimed to occupy more ground in two weeks than the Russians did in a year.

Your source in the occupying area is mostly made up of retired US army officers who now have jobs in the armaments industry and in their personal interests  they would make BS claims to get  more money to be spent on arms production by the US Army.   All I can say dream on.      

 

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 12:37
#8
26 Jul 2023, 12:37#8

Mike.  Here is the New York Times link:-

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/23/world/europe/weary-soldiersunreliable-munitions-ukraines-many-challenges.html

Ukraine is using dad's army now and their artillery rounds come from all over the globe.... “It’s a very big problem now,” 

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
26 Jul 2023, 12:41
#9
26 Jul 2023, 12:41#9

Those claims by the Russian Generals were the basis of a question asked in the US Senate and under oath the DF representative said there were  problems with delivery to the army and a US Colonel was sent to Kiev to co-ordinate the delivery of arms to Ukraine

Russian generals?. Mike as I've corrected you multiple times already the claim that only 30% of military aid sent to Ukraine was reaching the front lines came from the CEO of a Lithuania based organisation called Blue-Yellow and he made that claim in April 2022 (and it 30-40%) but in later comments around July/August he said the situation had significantly improved. He also publicly said people (like you) where deliberately misconstruing what he said to imply Ukrainian corruption was the reason not all aid was reaching the frontline.

You're still pushing this same misinformation over a year later.

But let's say for a moment you are right and Ukraine is corruptly selling off its military aid. The Ukrainian army must be amazing if it can hold off the Russian's with just 30% of the military aid sent to them...or the Russian army must be really shit.

The US Army also sent 200 men to Kiev and when that was exposed Biden claimed they have sent 200 troops to Kiev to  guard the US Embassy.   Total BS -troops to Ukraine to help with delivery of the arms to he Ukraine Army.   That was again something you call a lie - but is a fact.

Go on provide evidence of this them?

In your mind the truth hurts and the truth is not what you claim on site.  What you claim is total BS.   If the Ukraine  have hundreds of thousands of reserve troops.

From the Ukrainian population you plank and not all of them are reserve troops. 

and why are hey not used facing about 200 000 Russians in East Ukraine and only 10 000  troops used in the counter-attack you claimed to occupy more ground in two weeks than the Russians did in a year.

Because they are needed on the frontlines and in supporting rolls across the whole of Ukrainian. And I didn't claim Ukraine captures more territory in two weeks than the Russian's did in the year. This is insane Mike, you don't even respond to what I'm saying, you just make random shit up.

Your source in the occupying area is mostly made up of retired US army officers who now have jobs in the armaments industry and in their personal interests  they would make BS claims to get  more money to be spent on arms production by the US Army.   All I can say dream on.      

The ISW provide links to back up their assessments (they compile their assessments only from open source material). The 12 members of the ISW are listed in the who we are section. 3 of them are ex US military and none appear to currently have jobs with the armaments industry. You're talking smack again.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 12:42
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26 Jul 2023, 12:42#10
Beenshit your headline states that the Ukraine army is down to 30 - 40 thousand members yet holding of an army off a million men across a massive front.
I am calling bullshit, if that was the case the Russians would be in Kyiv in a couple of days.
Either that or the Ukraine  solder is fucking superman or the Russians are all like you (all mouth and not enough brains to fight your way out of a paper bag)

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:07
#11
26 Jul 2023, 13:07#11

Old crust you are out of your depth in two feet of water boet.

Clearly you still haven't grasped some basics. Putin values the lives of his soldiers. Zelensky has not.

Hence old crust the Russians build a superb defensive line and waited for the Ukrainian army to attack. Zelensky was under pressure from NATO to show some battle field success attacks . 

So they attack these defensive lines, make no progress and lost 26,000 soldiers killed and huge amounts of equipment.

Now up in the North East a Russian Army of 100,000 with 900 tanks plenty of artillery peaces etc is moving forward. Russian has 100s of thousands of troops in reserve and ready to go.they are under no time table to fight to gain political points but only to achieve their goals with minimal Russian dead. 

Ukraine has lost the war. Get used to the idea dummy. If you took the trouble to view what I post you would not be looking so incredibly ignorant  and behave in such a totally unhinged manner. You are sounding ever more like that lunatic warped dud. A kiwi living in Australia. Pity Australia. Hahahahaha. Poor old crust perhaps he should just stick to rugby it's all beyond him.

Mike well done for schooling poor StavAss. Hopefully by letting him down gently he won't have a heart attack when Ukraine collapses. 

I have pointed to places where poor StavAss can see videos of the people invading Ireland. But he says looking out of his window he sees nothing. What a dumbass. 

I still suspect StavAss is a fake Irishman.  He is of course a purveyor of fake news and a major climate alarmist. A obsequious follower of Greta Thunberg, probably with similar mental illnesses!  



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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:16
#12
26 Jul 2023, 13:16#12

What a fuckin loon you are. You are seriously telling us that the Ukraine has that few soldiers across the entire front?

So Ukraine has suffered over 90% losses. If that was the case Ukraine would have fallen months ago.

Even a simpleton can figure out they couldn't hold a million men back.

And if they did you think putin is saving his men's lives by simply sitting in their trenches getting shelled and suffering loses daily, they would take less losses by attacking on a large front than hiding under ground.

I am writing to putin to ask for you to posted as their Supreme commander you would lose the war in a week with twice that number of soldiers.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:21
#13
26 Jul 2023, 13:21#13

Also please show me where I stated Ukraine would win this war?

Just because I don't support your murderer does not mean I think the Ukraine will win.

You black and white view of the world has seriously fucked up your brain.

I have to assume dropping babies on their heads is a national sport over there it's the only thing I can think of why you seem to have a disproportionate number of idiots.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:26
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26 Jul 2023, 13:26#14

Putin doesn't read trash from Lbgtg retards like you

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:29
#15
26 Jul 2023, 13:29#15

He can read?

I just thought he took orders from lucifer

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:32
#16
26 Jul 2023, 13:32#16

So I take it you believe the Ukraine army stands at 40k personal max along with beenshit then?

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:35
#17
26 Jul 2023, 13:35#17

Don't come looking for children here in Africa... We will find you Pedo

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:43
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26 Jul 2023, 13:43#18
So you never said Russia is to blame for starting this war. Is that what you are saying.In your squint eyes it's all Russia's fault. You have been savagely against Russia all along. Russian now apparently has 750,000 troops. I hear that they want to have 1.2 million. They potentially can mobize 30 million men. My murderer. Listen chump the Russians in tbe Donbass were being subjected to a genocide by the Nazi riddled Zelensky Regime. Ever hear of the Azov Battalion you halfwit. They goaded Putin into sending in his small expeditionary force. Putin has showed great restraint to the point where some Russian are angry he hasn't finished the job quicker. We are talking about the offensive Zelensky launched in East Ukraine. He will have some troops up in North East Ukraine where the Russians are attacking and  on the border of Belarus where over 100,000 troops are all ready to go. However in each case tbe Ukrainians are heavily outmatched. Get yourself acquainted with who deliberately engineered this war. Who were the murderous scumbags who caused so many deaths, injuries and destruction. At the moment you are a hopelessly ignorant buffoon who simply has no clue whatsoever. You can't see anything beyond painting Putin as tbe villain. You have an obsessive hatred of tbe Russian people. You are clearly a brain washed zombie impervious to truth. How many times do folk on this board have to spell out to you the causes of this war!! But you just can't stand the truth. 


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:45
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26 Jul 2023, 13:45#19

Wouldn't think of it, your churches has the pedo arena all wrap up everywhere for itself.

I will stick to what has always attracted me and thats a mature lady, you can stick to your little boys in the back of the pews but your days are numbered it won't be long before some 7ft fellow prisoner will be showing you exactly what it was like for you little boy victims. 

Sick pedo


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:50
#20
26 Jul 2023, 13:50#20

Pedo Beeno

Has a ring to it ....

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 13:54
#21
26 Jul 2023, 13:54#21

DA and CF..... Pedo's hiding on these forums, sick sods

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 14:05
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26 Jul 2023, 14:05#22
Pedo beeno does have a ring to it, think we have found a new tag for our resident pedo perv.Now we just need to find a suitable tag for our other pedo bendover
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sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
26 Jul 2023, 14:14
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26 Jul 2023, 14:14#23

@PedoBeeno, that rings true...

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 15:48
#24
26 Jul 2023, 15:48#24

Pedo number 3 Sharkw rap

So Pedo 1) CF

Pedo 2) DA

Pedo 3) SB

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 16:13
#25
26 Jul 2023, 16:13#25

Gay pedos

It's a draw between pedobeeno and bendover.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 16:55
#26
26 Jul 2023, 16:55#26

Pedo no 1

"everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, ulest his works should be exposed" 

John3v20 .

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2023, 17:01
#27
26 Jul 2023, 17:01#27

So you hate the light pedo bendover, you have been showing your darkness for a while now but you're to dim to even realize it.

Good thing your religion is crap otherwise you would be in a whole lot of shit lol.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 17:09
#28
26 Jul 2023, 17:09#28

Pedo no1


Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Jul 2023, 17:27
#29
26 Jul 2023, 17:27#29

Stav

I made a mistake - I referred to 3 Ukraine generals who claimed only 30% of the arms delivered by the USA ended up with the fighting army.   I am not aware who started the claims about non-=delivery of arms to the army.  There were even photos of the three generals in an article I saw on the internet.   The matter was then raised in the US Senate when army representatives under oath what was happening to the armaments when delivered.   The USADF representative admitted there were problems - and they claimed a US Coronel for that reason  was sent to post to help sporting out of the mess.

Shortly thereafter a whistleblower revealed that the US Government sent troops to Ukraine without approval of Congress.   Biden made a statement that only 200 soldiers were sent to Ukraine to guard the US Embassy.   Even a fool would believe that garbage - the strops were helping the Coronel to ensure arms provided is delivered to the fighting army.

An investigation was undertaken as to arms delivery and it was found that there were serious criminality in dealing with the arms delivery and the Ukraine Minister of  Defense was identified as being responsible for the mess and was supposed to be fired.  Instead of firing the culprit they arrested 13 army officers and fired the officer commanding the troops in Eastern Ukraine was fired.   No reason was given for the firing of the  army commander.   There are potentially only one reasons for    not firing of the Defense Minister and that is the fact that he has close links to the Asov Battalion - a bunch of murderous mercenaries that is guilty of war crimes - even the USDF admitted they committed war crimes..   Their activities in murdering people in Mariopol and Odessa in 2015 and they were put on the terrorist list of the UN.   That let the battalion to not being supplied weapons by the USA.   The Asov battalion was a private army funded and controlled by the billionaire owning the TV station where Zelenskyy was employed.    To overcome that problem the Battalion was incorporated into the Ukraine army.   

There are two things that you lose sight of - Ukraine is rated as the most corrupt country in Europe.   That opened the way for Biden and a number of other politicians to get in on the corrupt in the USA to get involved in Ukraine - the method used was to provide financial assistance to Ukraine and then get kickbacks  from people they deal with.   Biden himself created over 20 companies whose only role was to open bank accounts   that served as a channel for kickbacks.    According to sworn statements in the House and provision of banks ransfer statements Biden received  $17 million from Burisma  alone.   Biden always denied that he was not involved in  corrupt business activities of his son - but evidence produced now indicated hat his son Hunter was just a bagman - the real crook is Biden himself.   He is bound to be impeached and the dirty linen of the Biden crime family has been exposed.   The fact is that the ultra rich - who owned the papers and used the media to promote the election of Biden in 2020  is still protect their puppet in the WH.   

The fact is that huge arms orders are now the norm and the operation of kickbacks to politicians and bureaucrats involved was a regular process in all wars involving the USA. An example is the Haliburton Company of which Cheney is the main owner.   The company gor $156 million per year contract in  Iraq to provide supporting services to the US Army.   The profits of the company was massive.   A similar contract was given to the company iro the Iraq war and a similar contract has been allocated in Ukraine with Haliburton performing their services in Poland.   The other US Politicians involved in Ukraine include Clinton, Pelosi and Schiff plus Democrat and Republican Senators  as well.

You may be happy to believe the war is fought in Ukraine based on principles - the only principle involved in both the USA and in Ukraine is how much money the corrupt can make out of the present war situation.

                                        

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2023, 18:03
#30
26 Jul 2023, 18:03#30

Sadly our resident pervs love the perv Zelensky, its his shiny black tights and stilleto heels that are so attractive the the pervs.

100percent correct Mike. The Bidens sold out America for cash. Biden is a traitor and treasonous is punishable by Death. 

Unforunatley the DOJ and FBI are as corrupt as Hell and the demonrats will never find Biden guilty in the Senate. However impeaching Biden will be a great education for some Americans who have not been paying attention.

America and the world are in danger until these demonrats are kicked out.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 18:16
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26 Jul 2023, 18:16#31

Can you imagine the confusion at the Ukro front.

They have ammo from all over the globe. They have weapons from all over the globe. They're injuring themselves and the range they hope of reaching is constantly changing. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2023, 18:44
#32
26 Jul 2023, 18:44#32

Moon its a recipe for disaster. Actually the are running out of ammo. Biden said as much. Hence sending the cluster bombs - illegal in over 120 nations.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
26 Jul 2023, 19:14
#33
26 Jul 2023, 19:14#33

Hence sending the cluster bombs - illegal in over 120 nations.

Didn't hear you condemn Russia when they used the.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
26 Jul 2023, 19:17
#34
26 Jul 2023, 19:17#34

Knowing the Russkies they will reply with same measure of clusters. 

Lots of flapping around in the UN over the grain embargo. The Russkies really mean shutting it off. Almost clipping Romania with their missiles. 

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Jul 2023, 05:55
#35
27 Jul 2023, 05:55#35

Yeah.... the best way to try and avoid any suspicion about being a pervert is to keep making posts about it ....

Meanwhile, back at the ranch.....

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