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Russian propaganda se gat...what happened to Japan after Pearl Harbor...this was a Pearl Harbor event...it is serious with bigger implications than just Russia vs Ukraine....together with the rumors of a Putin assassination attempt a few weeks ago...things are escalating fast.
Other than it being a surprise attack the two events are not comparable. Pearl Harbour was the event that triggered the Pacific War between the US and Japan. What Ukraine did was in response to missile and drone attacks that Russia has been launching at them for the 3 years of an already existing war that Ukraine did not instigate.
You need to realise that even though I'm sure this has infuriated Putin and others in Russia, Ukraine's attack is not going suddenly create awake a sleeping giant that will steamroll all before it. Russia is maxed out in terms of military production and capability. All it can do is more of the same, lob missile at cities and advance at glacial pace under mass artillery in certain sectors of the front while sustaining appalling causalities, its only hope is the west abandon's Ukraine.
Why wold long range nuclear capabie aircraft be used to "lob missiles"?....I don’t think so...this was a target to hurt Russia...fair enough, they have it coming...I just hope the fallout can be contained.
You do realise its 21st century right. Strategic bombers have long had the capability to fire missiles. A couple of seconds of googling would answer your question. Larger aircraft are capable of carrying more or larger weapons, increased payload/range etc.
"You do realise its 21st century right. Strategic bombers have long had the capability to fire missiles. A couple of seconds of googling would answer your question. Larger aircraft are capable of carrying more or larger weapons, increased payload/range etc."
Of coarse they are capable, just didn't think they would be necessary seeing Ukraine is right next door...but that's beside the issue...if America had anything to do with the bombing of the planes it can be construed as an act of war.
if America had anything to do with the bombing of the planes it can be construed as an act of war.
Thank fck Zelensky said sweet f'all to Trump ...............................
Scared little Draad needs his Teddy bear, and for Trump to watch over him at night.
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LMAO! Good one Sharkie.
"Scared little Draad needs his Teddy bear, and for Trump to watch over him at night."
Not scared, concerned...nuclear war is serious and a hot conflict between Russia and the USA is not what the world need right now...I know basic arithmetic is not your thing but surely even you can pur 2 and 2 together (or multiply) and still get 4?
Agreed Draad
If the thought of WW3 starting, does not concern you, you are stupid.
It takes one very small incident, that is either intentional or unintentional, that could very easily and quickly escalate into someone far bigger, leading to Putin doing something drastic and out of control ....
Putin has been embarrased in front of the rest of the world, so many times already with this war, so I can imagine his patience might be running a bit thin, and he could possibly become too impulsive if or when some incident like this does happen and he responds.
There is nothing wrong with being concerned or even scared of WW3 starting, purely because of the carnage that it would unleash on the rest of the world, and not just the countries directly involved in that war......
So again, if you aren't concerned or scared of that happening in our near future... you are very stupid.
Having said that, I am all for Ukraine attacking Russia as much as they can and be as damaging, destructive and disruptive as possible.
Russia took on the little man, and realised that that little man can't be bullied, and Ukraine have given far more than a bloody nose on many occasions already to Russia....so long may it continue
Apparently it was not a drone attack - ut wa tkaen by a Russian transport company whose driersdid not know what cargo they were carrying. The planes invovled was not sued in the Ukraine war at all neither ere any attack on Ukraine orginating from the air ield involved,
After the incident there was another hour long telephone conversaion between Trump and Putin and the latter sworne to take revenge on the Kiev Government. In my opinion it is unlikely to be a random attack on any civillian targets and the revenge would be on Ukraine politicians and in particular Zelesnskyy and his Cabinet membes and if I s them I woud depart from Ukraine or move permanently into bomb shelters,
Remember we are no dealng here with angels on either side. The attack on a theatre in Moscow originated from Kiev as well and ten times more civillians were murdered than were killed in the recent attacks on Kiev.
The fact is Trump is still trying to get peace on the way - but one wonders who is trying to continue with the War, Maybe it is not only the Russians - but also the Zelenskyy regime. As long as the war continue and the electons will not take place in Ukraine and it is evident Zelenskyy do not want elections to take place in Ukraine who has no Constitution forcing elections every five years,
Trump did mention what Putin said during the conversation - but did not state anything about what he told Putin. the aiport attack in Russia took place after the Geneva meeting was scheduled and it ws clearly a tactic of Zelenskyy to jeopardize that meeting. In the case the problem is peace in Ukraine would not be in Zelenskyy's interests since it may result in a return to democracy in Ukraine - something the present gvernment does not want to happen.
Time to stop the craziness on both sides and stop cheering on he continuation of a war more related to internal politics than the interests of the people of Ukraine or Russia.
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"Apparently it was not a drone attack"
Mike, with all the evidence that has already been supplied, confirmed, and plastered all over the world's media ..... it very clearly was a drone attack.
No, it was not a lot of drones that flew all the way over Russia to hit those planes, nor was it a strike from a drone flying secretly at 30 000ft above Russia..... it was something like 117 smaller drones that were transported secretly in multiple trucks, by unsuspecting drivers, that were then unleashed to do the damage they did.
So yes...it was a drone attack ... you do yourself no favours when you post stuff like this
A crybaby like Draad just wants Ukraine to accept losing this war, just so he feels safer.
Russia is run by a Mafia mob with nukes. They are certainly a threat to the world. Although if a country is attacked, they do have to fight back. It is not realistic to expect them to roll over and accept defeat just because of the threat of Nukes. Allied countries also can't stop standing for what they believe at the threat of nukes. Putin has made this threat over 1000 times since the start of the war.
Someone does need to stand up to Putin, I think we all agree on that, but at the same time, I can imagine that a lot of people are very concerned or even scared about just how Putin would react or respond, purely because of just how unpredictable he is.
That should not stop someone like NATO from standing up to him, but to what degree or extent that happens, remains to be seen.
There is very good reason why Germany and the UK are extremely concerned about an escalating war with Russia that could possibly preclude WW3 happening, hence why they have both put so many new policies and processes in place, to try and prepare for anything remotely close to that happening.
I don't believe WW3 would happen in our near future, baring something going horribly wrong...but any NATO member would be incredibly naive or stupid to not prepare for the possibility of it.
A crybaby like Draad just wants Ukraine to accept losing this war, just so he feels safer.
Nonsense, I never said or implied that...that's your nonsensical deduction...my concern is about America's possible involvement with the destruction of the nuclear capable long-range bombers, specifically in relation to the New START Treaty.
Russia is run by a Mafia mob with nukes. They are certainly a threat to the world. Although if a country is attacked, they do have to fight back. It is not realistic to expect them to roll over and accept defeat just because of the threat of Nukes. Allied countries also can't stop standing for what they believe at the threat of nukes. Putin has made this threat over 1000 times since the start of the war.
At least Draad feels safe at night
It's not about feeling safe, it's about not being foolish...maybe some day you wake up...
sdfgh
testing ... did my doggie image make it to Africaa ?
Putin will no dout do something drastic - but not to annoy Trump any further. He amy have lt out aht will happen and Trump did not threaten him if he did something. Trump will be annoyed if civillians were targetted - so I am sure the revenge involve will be targetted at Military and Government strategic targets like the petty dictator and corrupt Zelenskyy - who are determined to let the war continue since it will save his political skin as long as the war continue,
In the case of a peace deal he would have to leave Ukraine and find another home. He apaprently own two luxury yachts and at least 7 homes in various countries. One used to be what is now Russia - one is in the USA - one in Canada and one in Israel. The USA will not look for further trouble so he will not get a visa before 2028 - and his only hope is as a Jew he be allowed to stay in Israel - but he is not popular in that country either, .
More information and footage from the drone attack.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy poses for a photo after his interview with The Associated Press in Kharkiv, Ukraine, Thursday, Nov. 30, 2023. Zelenskyy has not recently purchased two multimillion-dollar yachts, despite online claims. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)
Published 8:17 AM GMT+12, December 5, 2023
CLAIM: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy bought two luxury yachts, named Lucky Me and My Legacy, through proxies for more than $75 million.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The companies selling each yacht confirmed to The Associated Press that they are still on the market.
THE FACTS: As the Russia-Ukraine war nears the two-year mark, social media users are falsely claiming that Zelenskyy recently purchased two multimillion-dollar yachts despite the devastating conflict.
“Ukrainian President Zelensky uses proxies to hide ownership of two yachts worth $75.000.000,” a post on X, formerly Twitter, states. “This man will go down in history as the person who destroyed his own country for fame and fortune.”
Many social media posts carrying the claim cite a Nov. 21 story from The Islander, an online publication, that reported Zelenskyy “is now ensnared in a scandal involving the alleged purchase of two luxury yachts, ‘Lucky Me’ and ‘My Legacy,’ worth a combined $75 million.”
The report pinned the supposed purchases on two of Zelenskyy’s associates, citing a video from a small YouTube channel that claimed to have documents showing them buying the yachts on behalf of the Ukrainian president.
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But, according to the companies selling the boats, both vessels are still on the market.
“Burgess can confirm that MY LEGACY is currently for sale with Burgess as the exclusive listing brokerage house,” Nicci Perides, a spokesperson for the luxury yacht company, told the AP in an email. “We can confirm that the yacht has not been sold and therefore remains for sale.”
BehneMar, another luxury yacht company, similarly called claims about its listing for Lucky Me “totally wrong and false,” writing in a statement that it “can confirm that the yacht has not been sold and is still for sale with BehneMar as the exclusive listing company.”
The alleged sales documents read: “Memorandum of Agreement Approved by The Mediterranean Yacht Brokers Association,” an outdated name of the group now called MYBA The Worldwide Yachting Association. Its name changed in 2008 and the group now uses a different logo than the one that appears on the documents.
Blank versions of the documents shown in the YouTube video and on The Islander are available free online.
One of the supposed memorandums lists Lucky Me as being sold on Oct. 18 for $24.9 million to Boris Shefir, who worked with Zelenskyy at his production company Kvartal 95. The other states that My Legacy was sold exactly a week later for $49.75 million to Shefir’s brother, Serhiy Shefir, who also worked at Kvartal 95 and is now one of Zelenskyy’s top political aides.
Jane Adlington-Brumer, MYBA’s general secretary, told the AP that the documents appear to be pre-2012 versions of a memorandum of agreement “no longer endorsed by MYBA.” She added that MYBA “does not approve yacht sales.”
Asked about The Islander’s story, its co-founder Chay Bowes told the AP that the site “did not state that President Volodymyr Zelensky directly purchased the luxury yachts ‘Lucky Me’ and ‘My Legacy.” He noted that the story “highlighted allegations and connections involving his close associates.”
Zelenskyy’s financial relationship with the Shefir brothers has come under scrutiny in the past.
The Pandora Papers leak in 2021 led to reports that Zelenskyy had transferred his shares in an offshore company — Maltex Multicapital Corp — to Serhiy Shefir before his election to Ukraine’s presidency. An arrangement allowed Maltex to pay dividends to another company belonging to Zelenskyy’s wife, the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project reported at the time.
Serhiy Shefir retained his stake in Maltex after he joined the Zelenskyy administration. Boris Shefir was named in the Pandora Papers as a part-owner of Maltex, but told the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project in 2021 that he was unaware of the details of the offshore arrangement.
A spokesperson for Zelenskyy did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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This is part of AP’s effort to address widely shared misinformation, including work with outside companies and organizations to add factual context to misleading content that is circulating online. Learn more about fact-checking at AP.
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