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Ukraine War Angus McFarlane

Started by bobbok...1 REPLIES260 VIEWS· 27 May 2023, 02:25
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
27 May 2023, 02:25
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27 May 2023, 02:25#1

Three generations of Russians have had access to Social Media, travel, Netflix, MacDonald’s, KFC, computers, Ikea, and the Internet. Do you honestly think they will accept a return to Stalinist, gray concrete Communism? Can they live with Communist substitutes for western apps and media platforms? No chance!

Putin and his kleptocratic circle of oligarchs and gangsters do not understand that the genie is out of the bottle. There is no way they can force it back in. Young Russians have tasted what the 21st Century has to offer, and they like it. Lowering the ‘iron curtain’ once more is out of the question. It would be a return to darkness.

Already, the Russian economy is under siege. It will collapse, eventually. And if Putin declares a ‘general mobilisation’, the young Russians of today will refuse to go to war. Imagine! A young, Russian guy who listens to hip-hop and beats, surfs the net till dawn, meets his friends at Starbucks, and chats with them on WhatsApp, is told he must lose his life for a pack of lies told by throwbacks to the Stalinist era???


It’s not going to happen. That’s why three hundred years of the Imperial Russian Empire will be buried in a ditch in the Donbas.

Angus McFarlane

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 May 2023, 05:28
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27 May 2023, 05:28#2

That is crazy stuff to say the least.   The idea that Russia is a dictatorship in the mold of Lenin, Stalin and other Communist leaders is ridiculous and far away from the truth.   The idea is cultivated in the leftist media and is based on lies.   

By the way the Communist Party s the biggest opposition party in Russia getting only about 17% support in Russia and dictatorship is unpopular and totally unacceptable.    The majority of the Russians hate the ill-treatment of Russians in countries that used to be part of  the USSR and where countries used to he part of the USSR have ethnic Russians still residing.    Most countries - real democracies like Lithuania, Estonia and  Latvia - keep to their constitutions not allowing for oppression of their ethnic Russian populations - the Ukraine being the exception.   The latter country has no constitution anymore and is a total dictatorship and not democratic at all.nymore.

By the way the idiot who wrote the article has no idea about the Russian empire anyway.   The emperors were descended from the Romanovs who came into power in 1613 - but they were preceded by the Rurikid rulers who reigned in Russia - inclusive of the Donbas Region - from the 14th century.    After the collapse of the Mongol Golden Horde in the 1400's the Dombas Region became part of Russia and cities like Kharkov was always part of Russia - while the rest of what is Ukraine of today became part of the Polish kingdom.    It was only in 1776 that the Polish kingdom collapsed and what is today Western Ukraine became part of the Russian and Habsburg empires.   

In WW2 major elements of the Western Ukrainians supported the German Nazi's  and the Russian Communist Government decided to change the borders of Ukraine to increase the Russian population in that country and ensure they do not side with unsavory elements like happened in WW2.    The 1991 Ukraine Constitution guaranteed human rights in Ukraine as a country.   The Constitution also guaranteed political and judicial rights of people.   The Ukraine constitution was thrown out of the window as a result of the 2014 coup engineered and funded by the US Government - who decided on the leadership in Ukraine.    That enabled the corrupt politicians in the USA to milk money from USA Government Aid funding kickbacks.

The 2014 coup resulted in a civil war breaking out in Ukraine and that went on until the present day.   It was only under the present Biden Administration where corruption totally took over and the Civil War became more intense when the threat of ethnic cleansing and enforced oppression of Russian speakers  in Ukraine became very real that Russia invaded Ukraine.

But for a period of 60 years the Donbas was never part of Ukraine.   Where the idiot you quoted got this history reference from is amazing.

                           

                        

       

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