Ukrainian Army in full retreat after fall of Avdivka

I read an article from an independent source that the Ukaine army had prepared no second line of their 1000 km front/   If the defense line were breached at Avdivka and Marymka to the north, there was no prepared line which could result in the Ukraine army be able to take up defensive positions.

The situation is so bad that the Russians can now send in units that can be as small as 6 people to occupy certain towns and if some resistance they send in a peleton or even  company in to conquer areas.   

So retreat is the only option left for the retreating  Ukrainian army.    They must delay the advancing Russian Army to try while they construct new fortifications where the Ukraine army stop their advances.   

In the meantime Zelenskky is begging for further ammunation supplies, but where will it come from.   Maybe they should ask for further self-destruction by calling  in the US Generals involved in the flight from Afghanistan - they would just cause further chaos.

Maybe the long -awaited peace talks can now start  but any involvement of the the present USA Government will not have positive results for the Ukraine Government.   ,   

Your credibility is zero….post the actual extract and tell us the name of the source.

The name of the source is Al Jazeera - a more reliable  news source than actual USA Media,  You can look it up yourself  - not  lies you posted on site regularly.   TRy the following  thread:-

ttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/29/russian-troops-inch-ahead-as-war-in-ukraine-barrels-into-third-year 

Whenever the USA media claim anything fed to hem by the WH, the CIA and the U S  Defeense Force  it turned out to be propaganda BS which was as false as Herr Goebbels  and Lord Ha Haw did in WW2.    When they write BS propaganda   like that spread constantly in the Wall Street Journal it turned out to be false.  

HAPPY LIARS DAY TOI YOU.                .  

Mike posted back in December that Russia would take Kharkiv and Odessa in three months. His credulity is below zero at this point.

So the three months are up in March /pril - so wait another month or so.   I never made up the BS about Ukraine winning the war based on USA propaganda and repeated on site regularly by some of the0 brainwashed idiots  on site.   

What is left of the Ukraine army remains an open question.    The fact is that the supply of Ammo has been delayed  by months and the USA Congress approval for aid to Ukraine has stalled.and it is not even clear that any further aid will be approved.  

The house has agreed to some lift of the debt ceiling after cutting funds to the FBI to prevent them from treating as domestic terrorist wen they dare to attend School Board  meetings and oppose the Stalinist education program as well as cuts to prevent the FBI spying  on opposition supporters - the last count the figure was 278 000 people.   

The next issue is Defence spending an that include aid to Ukraine.   Defence spending  is not subject to audit  in a war situation - so billions are going down the drain through endemic corruption.   The fact is the USA Government funds the whole budget of Ukraine and not only defence aid.   That - while 49 million people in the USA itself suffer from food deficiency.   In that situation the ordinary voters are not happy about funding of a proxy war in Ukraine - still the most corrupt country in  Europe,          

The delay in aid will not enhance the defense of Odessa and Karkhov - with the Ukraine army in retreat the battle for Odessa will commense soon and the same applies to Kafkhov.      .              

So Wanker Mike wrote that the Ukranian army is in full retreat…gleefully because while he doesn’t have a shred of credibility, he also has zero empathy. And he quotes Aljazeera.  But this is what the article said::

‘ Ukrainian forces in the east struggled to find stable new defences during the past week, as Russian troops continued to advance after capturing Avdiivka – suggesting that artillery and other shortages were affecting Ukraine’s ability to hold the entire 1,000km (620-mile) front line.

Nothing about Ukraine in full retreat, because they aren’t.

If the Russians "continued to advance" raises a question = where did the Ukraine troops went to.  

1    They either magically go up into the sky and lands behind he advancing Russian troops;

2    They move side wsys

3    They retreat 

 The Wall Street Journal will take 1 as the answer - so you are welcome to choose 1 as well.       

You just lied again….and then retreated into second childhood nonsense. Par for the course.

No Mozart I do not lie - that is entirely your privilege/  

Stav

The Ukraine situation is bad.- whether you like it or not.    As I read the above article and especially ne Ukraine report writing that the situation is bad along large parts of the frontline.   

So lets go to the Avdivka case as  an example.   Avdivka has been fortified by the Ukraine Government since 2014.   The proximity of Avdivka to Donetsk made i a crucial Ukraine amy strongpoint.   The battle went on for months  and the Ukraine defence held firm.   Then about 30 km to the north the Russian Army broke through the Ukraine defensive line and captured Marinka and turned south and suddenly the Avdivka defenders found that they now must defend the city with attacks from 3 sides  and the Ukraine army withdrew. from the city.   

What happened then is the whole defense line is threatened    Take for instance the line betrween the Marinla breach and Avdivka was that the Ukraine Army already retreated,   So what makes the withdrawal inevitable.     Breaches result in the Russians attacking the frontlne of Ukraine from both the front and the back.   

The situation is that unfortiunate for  the Ukraine army is that there were no strong points created behind the defensie line and to erect such points would be a virtual impossibility with Russian attacks continuing.     Ukraine can  use labor to dig new trenches and underground bunkers where sldiers could sleep and rest.     Such a massive operation over more than a thousand kms will have to be at least 50 to a hundred kms behind where the Ukraine troops are at present and will take months to complete.

Damn right….the Republicans are letting down the West. They make a budget argument, which should not be the calculus here. But that argument doesn’t only go back on an implicit promise, it’s also wrong. The US will end up spending far more money containing Putin if he succeeds in subjugating the Ukraine.

American politics at its worst.

Ukranian officer ; We have not many options here. Fall back, or just wait till we are… No matter how sad it may sound, till we are all killed. Without weapons… it’s not a war you can fight with a sword.”

Mozart 

The Democrats are betraying the USA on all fronts and the UJA are losing allies at an alarming  rate.   The Open Border Policy of the Democrats are to be closed and Biden is not about to close it - so the Republicans are right protect the USA first and then look to what must be done in the wider world.

Then start thinking of countries threatening the USA and its allies and the answer is China - but if China is attacking Taiwan and afterwards South Korea there is zero the USA can do to stop it.  

Russia was not threatening anybody in any way until the US A installed a puppet Government in Ukraine in 2014 and sabotaged all potential agreements on the issue - they even now funds the whole budget of  Ukraine.   The USA was leading the party to destroy the Ukraine 1991 Constitution and bragged about how they decided on the new Government for Ukraine.    democracy - there is nothing left of Democracy in Ukraine.    Why did the USA constructed a new bio-lab in Odessa where gain-of-function research is the norm and continued in controlling other at least 26 bio-labs in Ukraine.    What if a virus leak like in he case of Wuhan killed millions of people worldwide.    There are reports that especially the Odessa bio-lab research is  ten times more dangerous than the Covid 19 research produced so will the toll next time be a 100 million plus deaths in the next pandemic.

The problem is idiots like you believe the lies the US Government spread.   The idea was that with western weaponry Ukraine would destroy the weak Russian army and the Putin Government would fall and replaced by USA Appointees.    Then they will have the Russian resources to rue the world.    I did not work out and now the US Government is in a mess,   \

The Republicans are right - the USA poor and working class is suffering and is against funding of Ukraine - while the poor, the working class and the middle class are being systemataically destroyed from within.  The rich are getting richer in the USA and everybody else is getting poorer.   The working class people are losing jobs - while the migrants are employed at much lower pay rates than the American workers get - even in factories migrant children receiving no remuneration replaced workers and are used as slave labor. according to the New York Times.

We are all losing through decline of Democracy in the world - because the USA has a shit President actively undermining it in the USA itself.   Using the Justice Department  and FBI toa ct against opponents is totally against all principles attached to democracy,    

Jut one question - why are the US Defense Force not subject to auditing and what happens to the billions provided to the most corrupt puppet Government in Europe.   Why is that not audited at all?

The majority of voters opposed funding of the Ukraine Government - while there are 49 million people in the USA suffering from food insecurity and hundreds of thousands of people living in  tents on sidewalks in US cities.   Why did law and order collapsed in the USA?    Why is the EU country Governments collapsing largely due to the immigration policy of the EU and the massive inflation resulting from the Ukraine War.

By the way you claim that Russia is poorer than Italy - but their GOP is higher than Germany largely due to the climate change BS.    Why is the Russian economy thriving and the USA one creaking.    Like everything else the sanctions punish the American citizens  more than they punish the Russians.

Every politician of note in the USA since WW2 wanted to avoid a Russian-Chinese alliance (Kissinger si an example) strived to avoid an alliance between  Russia and China - Biden managed to do that in less than 4 years.    Not only that they drove countries like India and Brazil  into the arms of China as well.   

By the way India is now trying to reach a peaceful settlement in Ukraine - will the USA sabotage that effort as well?  

Biden is also in trouble - he and his son got million from the Chinese Communist Party and  when it comes to Chinese interests in Taiwan and other Pacifiic countries - will Biden do anything without the approval of President Xi?

Lastly  I have fits of laughter reading the following:-\

 "The US will end up spending far more money containing Putin if he succeeds in subjugating the Ukraine."        

I could not believe that you actually wrote the above.   There is not any proof of anything you wrote - it reminds me of the Russian Hoax the Democrats lied about and used against Trump - is that another lie coming from the Democrats?   Unbelievable unproved BS in evidence.   

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Mike you are dealing with brainwashed imbeciles immune to the facts or reason. 

There are videos all over You Tube about the AFU retreat all long the Frontline. Articles written etc. 

They are short of military hardware, artillery shells etc. They are short now on manpower. 

The Russians rule the skys and their glide bombs are proving to be devastating. 

Putin also is using a small fraction of his army. 

There is no upside. 

My advice to NATO is stop poking the bear. This bear could wipe you out.

Time to sue for peace. You started a war you made out you could win Putin taken down and the riches of Russia taken over. Sounded great to your Russian hating supporters. 

It was a planned calamity for the West. Look at the consequences. The expanding BRICS. Nobody trusts the SWIFT system and dedollarization is taking place which will cause huge damage to the USA as it was planned to do. 

The freezing of hundreds of billions of Russian dollars also caught the attention of the World. 

The West has been weakened by this war just as was intended. 

The truth was Ukraine would never be able to defeat Russia dispite help form Europe and America. 

The dream was for Globalist ruled West to defeat independent Russua and grab Russian lands and resources. A giant step on the way to global hegemony and a Workd government as desired by WEF Globalists. It has failed in that respect. However it was succeeded in weakening the West.

Western Civilization must be destroyed before the NWO can be implemented said Arch Globalist. GEORGE SOROS. 

Arch Globalist scumbag Mozzietard has expressed his Globalist support for Open Borders. This is a key Globalist policy for destroying nation states. They want a borderless world.

They support the war in Ukraine as a means to weaken the West and particularly Europe. Europeans are cottoningbon on to this.

Under Speaker Mike Johnston an attempt is being made to put American interests first. This is anathema to a Globalist traitorine Mozzietard. To hell with the nerds of the American people. We must defeat non Globalist Russia.

So what about the 34 trkuon dollar debt says ou mozzietard. This debt is now growing at a trillion dollars every 100 days!! Can even Trump reverse this????

These Luciferian scumbags mean to destroy America and Mozzietard is fully in board. 

i wrote the initial report and said that the Ukraine  Army is in full retreat  and I now look again at the latest report. from the BBC and the following was in the report:-

"Over 1.2 million people - or two thirds of the population - have left the Ukrainian-controlled Donetsk region since Russia's full scale invasion two years ago.

And it's here in the eastern Donetsk region that Ukraine's defenders are being tested the most.

People in cities like Pokrovsk, Kostyantynivka and Kramatorsk are now facing a fast-approaching front line, and even occupation. "   Look at the following:-

 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682

The situation must be desperate from a Ukraine perspective.   Let me explain the Ukrane Government is forcing people to leave endangered areas - but residents refuse to be evacuated,  The Ukraine Government those evacuating the areas threatened as Russian Speaking  people staying  to welcome the advancing Russian troops.

The immediate target in the South is capturing Kherson - a city developed by Catherine the Greats lover and probably secret husband Grigory Potemkin.   Once the Russians occupy Kherson the next target in he South will be  Odessa.

In the central area capture of the whole Donetsk Oblast and dig in forming  a new defen sive line that would be virtually impossible to attack successfully.   

In the north the target is also obvious - the city of Kharkov to be attacked from the north- north-west and north east - as well as from the east.

The impression I gained is that the Russians will not enter into negotiations with the US controlled Kiev Government.      The time is way past when repeated efforts to negotiate a peace deal was sabotaged by the Washington regime,     Negotiations with the Ukraine Army command will be more successful.     . 

Great post Mike.

I remember the heady days when the very frot five where all giddy about how Putin would be toppled and Russia carved up etc. How one destroys a country like Russia that has the most powerful nuclear and cyber warfare capability in the world they overlooked being the utter nutjobs they are.

Completely deceived clowns!   

Mozart

I would like to hear what you think about the latest news,    What I started the thread about dealing with the retreat of the Ukraine forces and you seems to claim otherwise.     

I’ll simply reproduce the conclusion from the BBC article you referenced:

Here are the latest developments:

• Ukrainian forces have withdrawn from the eastern town of Avdiivka in Russia's biggest victory since the fall of Bakhmut in May last year

• Russia has also been launching attacks around villages in the southern Zaporizhzhia region where Ukraine made some gains during its 2023 counter-offensive

• Ukraine has continued its attacks on the Russian fleet in the Black Sea - most recently claiming to have sunk the amphibious ship, the Caesar Kunikov, off the coast of Russian-occupied Crimea

Maybe ou Mozzietard is getting a glimmer that Russia is mare than a gas station with a nuclear arsenal. Tal about clueless!

Something pleasant, please.

Mozart

Where did you get response from - I refer to the following:- 

"Here are the latest developments:

• Ukrainian forces have withdrawn from the eastern town of Avdiivka in Russia's biggest victory since the fall of Bakhmut in May last year

• Russia has also been launching attacks around villages in the southern Zaporizhzhia region where Ukraine made some gains during its 2023 counter-offensive

• Ukraine has continued its attacks on the Russian fleet in the Black Sea - most recently claiming to have sunk the amphibious ship, the Caesar Kunikov, off the coast of Russian-occupied Crimea." 

Mozart

Where did you get response from - I refer to the following:- 

"Here are the latest developments:

• Ukrainian forces have withdrawn from the eastern town of Avdiivka in Russia's biggest victory since the fall of Bakhmut in May last year

• Russia has also been launching attacks around villages in the southern Zaporizhzhia region where Ukraine made some gains during its 2023 counter-offensive

• Ukraine has continued its attacks on the Russian fleet in the Black Sea - most recently claiming to have sunk the amphibious ship, the Caesar Kunikov, off the coast of Russian-occupied Crimea." 

You always accuse me of not giving sources from where I get information - so give your source please. .  

I got it from this…  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682

The link you provided but obviously never read. What a clown you are!!!

lol

Mozart 

I read the whole article and did not make any real deductions - since the following summary from  the article is very clear:-

People in cities like Pokrovsk, Kostyantynivka and Kramatorsk are now facing a fast-approaching front line, and even occupation.  

The fast approaching front line  means the Ukraine Army is retreating without offering  any real resistance.   

I was from the start against the war and read up extensively on the issues which could have been avoided through peaceful negotiation.    Am still for a peaceful negotiated settlement that protect all the people of Ukraine - so who wanted the war in the first instance anyway.

Mozart - you did not comment of the issue of Ukraine as well.   India is making  an effort to start a ceasefire and afterwards to find a way to protect Ukraine as a country.   Will that one also be sabotaged by the US Government through their proxy Government in Ukraine?

Reading in your case unfortunately doesn’t guarantee understanding.

Coming  from a  person  without any principles whatsoever - the above comment is rich  S o he real reason for the Ukraine War is the result of he WEF destroyed Russia and turn it into slave states with humans living u de those  having  no human rights at all. Not nice that you are totally ignorant and  you have now being designated as  the SITE  FASCIST 

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