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'United States of extortion': New Trump Ukraine 'shakedown' called 'cheap mafia' move

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Feb 2025, 03:31
#41
17 Feb 2025, 03:31#41

Old diplomatic saying, ' If you're not at the table, you'll probably be on the menu'.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
17 Feb 2025, 03:47
#42
17 Feb 2025, 03:47#42

Heya BB, did you get around your tech problem?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Feb 2025, 04:30
#43
17 Feb 2025, 04:30#43

BB


Who is not at the table in this case?

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Feb 2025, 04:45
#44
17 Feb 2025, 04:45#44

Thanks for your help but nooit I simply can't copy & paste at all.................. I can't drag anything into my post, nothing, not even a URL ........ videos okay, the picture above, the one & only possible, everything else needs to be typed.

Normally I could drag your short post down, but nou dit werk not 'n vok.

But how's your posting problems/ videos ?

Lol.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
17 Feb 2025, 09:11
#45
17 Feb 2025, 09:11#45

"I’m sure you were completely unaware of this inequity. But now that you are…let’s have less of America not paying their fair share..."

Ouch .....

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
17 Feb 2025, 10:53
#46
17 Feb 2025, 10:53#46

That type of thing must stop before an entire collapse of the US economy


How? The US have been borrowing mostly from the FED that depends on the existence of the US to be.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
17 Feb 2025, 10:56
#47
17 Feb 2025, 10:56#47

Rather funny. The US have been running a business of farming the poor and extorting the weak since 1776. And as per usual with liberals, it is always a matter of definition. Just redefine what extortion is and the conclusion that the US are not extorting the Ukraine that fast.


It is comical to say the elast as liberal societies obliterated a large number of scoieties on the ground those societies were dominated by magical thinking. Probably, in the history of humanity, no other society has been that dominated by magical thinking as liberal societies.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
17 Feb 2025, 17:58
#48
17 Feb 2025, 17:58#48

es, the deal would likely involve access to Ukrainian rare earth minerals rather than outright acquisition without payment. The U.S. would presumably pay for these resources but under favorable terms, possibly including:

  1. Discounted prices compared to market rates
  2. Priority access over other buyers
  3. Long-term contracts ensuring supply stability
  4. Preferential extraction or investment rights for U.S. companies

This aligns with historical practices where military or economic aid leads to strategic resource agreements. However, Ukraine appears hesitant, as it wants security guarantees included in any deal rather than simply trading its minerals for past aid. Negotiations are still ongoing.


The way liberal minds work is a stunner when you are s simple minded person.


Trump is being praised for forcing peace in the conflict yet demand compensation for the aid the US of America have provided to sustain the war. It is not money that the US are about to lend to the Ukraine but money that was lent already and as such as already been guaranteed in other ways. The very fact this move is not associated to the criminal society is baffling. Liberals keep thinking that their word must be accepted by all on face value. They state something, it has to be accepted as truth.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Feb 2025, 08:20
#49
18 Feb 2025, 08:20#49

Grant funding to Ukraine became a hotbed of corruption and he Demorats knows it and stole as much as they could get through kickbacks. and soending money by buying ams is even worse - when the US Defense Department as was found in an audit not being able to provide any evidence on what circa $250 billion of he US Defense Budget of $850 bilion annual bidget was spent, There are only tw accounct for that situation and that is maladministration or bribery and corupption,


The Democrats knows that and knew tha their own involvement in corruption is gong tos end them to jaill. So they are fighting desperately against Trump appointes that would act on political coruption by the Democrats, Biden tried to prevent crooks like Schiff going to jail and issued fae aprdons on thei behalf.


Trillions of dollars were wasted or stolen from the US taxpayes and the crisis D enny rfer to is a crisis for the Democrat Party criminals, Aid grants to foreign isntitutiosn were never cotrolled and monitored and some o he so-clled grants as foreign aid was paid to fake organizaions in teh USA and found its way into the poclets of politicians and bureaucrats,


Trillions ahve been spent fruitlessly and the maladministration wil nw after intital discoverry will no followed by forensic audits o find out where he money acually went, So audis will determine whether 50% or more of he Democrat politicians and at least two Republcan Senators will go to jail. The panmic is all-out and the leftist media now claim it si a constitutional crisis. It is not one - what si a constitutional crisis is sending the USA into a future economic collapse is indeed a Cosnitutital crisis in he making


Duing Biden's presidency the Federal Debt increased from $26,5 trillion to $37 trillion - most fo the icrease being used to fund BS and maladministration and corruption being a major part of that increase. The Democrats are desperately denying that criminality si involved in the chaotic maladministation under Biden - but motly that they will be found to eb on the take and face jail time.


So the Democrats are trying to organize "street protests" and wants people attending those to bring weapons to defend "democracy" but rather to cause violence like happened in the 2020 riots/ What si really happening makes the January 6 indnt loks like a Sunda school picnic.


I do not blame the Democrats for trying to keep out of jail and the media is in panic too. So he crisis is maniplated by the paniking media as well. So is it Constitutional cisis if investgations are done when maladminitration, briery and corruption costibg the taxpayers trillions of dlalrs is being investigated annd found on a daily basis.


By the way I do not think the act that there are 20 million people aged between 100 and 159 years receiving old age grants from the Government every month. Where is that money paid out monthly going? At that rate the monthly gants beign $2 000 a momth - will be $480 billion a month - who get paid with that $4,8 trillion a year? hTat is not maladministration - it is downright theft of taxpyers money. Go to jail; - go directly to jail, do not pass. GO and do not receive $200...


Now Senator Paul asked Musk to audit the $456 billion in gold held in Fort Knox, If here are elss than that amount in reserve - people are going to jail soon. The Democrat politicians are going to b amongst the RATS stealing Government money. The A lcatraz pison will have to be re-opened to cater for politicians and bureaucats that will spent the rest of their crooked lives in priison, .

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Feb 2025, 21:33
#50
23 Feb 2025, 21:33#50

Shameful lies

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