USA/UK trade deal

Saarkie thank-you, & ouMaaik, shame on you for misleading members

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This is more of a media opinion check. Heaven knows the Oom is hardly reliable….but if the bulk of the press opinion is negative, any ‘ fact check’ will be negative. When AI can reason, deduce and show some wisdom these AI judgements might have some value. Until then AI is basically best left to discover real ‘facts’.

The issue is that the EU started off with ideals about economic growth in Europe nd over years it became a block of politicians who protect their interests cotrolled by a ssive beaucracy Mozart calls the bureaucrats who write out regulations for govenments to implement who harms the interests of the people living in Europe " the little people in suits" , I will give you a simple example that caused major price rises in Europe of dairy and meat prices. All that becaise the farting of cows cause Global Warming so the catlle and dairy farming must ove time be eliminated. So what the bureaucrats in Brussels want? People must change their diets and eat food not involving milk and meat.

Farmers must reduce their farm areas to allow for natural development of unconmtrolld growth on their farms hitting agriculture om EU countries very hard- with major implcations for th e ordinary people in Europe, The bureaucrats know what hey ebleive is what is good for themelves and mzke them idealogically feel happy about it,

In general the situation is that EU countriees allowed infrastructure to become defective witout any ugrading of systems. For uinstance power supply in Europe must depend on wind and sun electricity - but inresearch worldwide it s clear that those two sources put agriculture in jeopardy since large tacts of land must be used for wind and sun electricity infrastrucuture and even then the end result is negative - solar and wind power development has an extemely negative on food production. Nuclear power that is the cleanest form of electricity provision that has the least impact on the environent must be eliinated and replaced by a source that is not capable to meet power requirements,

IN the EU the ideal is to eliminate culture, history and religion in Europe because it is divisive and is in decline he idea of elimination of pride in family life and in conflict with their believe that people should not have any rights in being proud of their countries - known in general as the WOKE culture. It promotes the uncontrolled entry of migrants into the country without regard to the negative aspects of the European people and in their safety. In various countries there is a growth in political parties that believe in protection of their culture and pride in thei countries, One only have to look at the fact that sport is one of the issue which is ignored by poeple and they support thei countries in sprt and their athletes to the detriment of the believes of the "little men in suits" working for the EU admibistration in Europe.

Another factor which is detrimental to the people is education and the deficiencies in protection of pupils in schools, An example is my nephew who moved to England in 2000 - bit returned to South Afria because of the secibdary educatuib ib secindry schools in Europe where drug trade in secondary schools is rife and educatuin stardards is sub-par, In South A frica -despite ANC policy to lower education standards provie in especially the Wstern Cape where the rvince is govened by the Democrtaic aAlliance where safet if opeople and if education standards have been maintained and my neoew quoted two reasins for retrning to SA ws that in England quality education has been reduced iand drug sellng in secondary schools is rife and not controlled by the athorities.

Another example is the fuctioning of their armed services to protect the interests of the EU countries through NATO, The only countries where NATO arnies exceed 100 000 men is outside of US Arned services having 100 000 soldiers to proect Europe is Turkey, Greece and Italy. For the rest the EU countries have deficient armies to de3end themselves jointly or separately, When the Houthies atatcked shipping in the Red Sea the EU cuntries havce insufifient and they asked Trump to proterct European shipping in the said sea.

The UK has huge problems - same has the EU countries - so what benefit is there oin joining the EU?

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the EU cuntries havce insufifient and theya sked Trump to proterct European shipping in the said sea. . , , ,

That intentional ?

That intentional ?

Not sure, could be a combo between Shitory and a scrambled brain or no brain.

Whatever it is you can't knock it based on it being unique and natural in its presentation.

You are enttled to believe in B S fed to you by the media - but it has no real value to the electorate in the countries other than growth of Parties like AfD in Germany and Reform Party in the UK, The ordianry people are sick and tured of Governments that act as if they are chosen by idiots and is rapidly growing in most countries in Europe; In the USA the Demcorats are falling apart and their name is equal to ratshit at present. It is clear lies does not help governments anymore and the people are strggling to survive - while the shit from Governents allow for te elite politicans to protect their owwn interests,

So keep posting AI BS on site, I fnd it amusing how you believe the shit you and a few other idiots spout on site.

I see they announced a deal with China as well.

Maybe Draad

Wht happened in 2019 was that a new trade deal eliminating acceptable Chinese conduct was ready for signature - bu due to the Covid pandemic starting in China Trump shelved the deal.

So then we had anther Denny famous contribution tha because of tariffs US represnetatives went to VChina to plea with President Xi to be lss harsh on the US as a result f Trumps tariffs - which was BS supreme as expected,

What actually happened President Xi phoned Trump on the issue and it was ageed that Bessent and his aids would meet his Chinese colleague and staff i Geneva on Friday and Bessent afterwards said there were discussions of issues that had to be agreed befre a rade deal could be finalized tok 8 hous on Fridy and on Saturday the issues relatig to the trade deal was to be discussed and those dicussions will continue until a final xdedal was agreed on.

I would under the circumstances hink that you may be right that a deal has bena greed to based on what was in the del following the 2019 agreement.- whch may hve eben sorted out on Friday.

A pparently what was ageed upon was to cut back th tariffs on both sides to 10% - bu there is another sna g and that is the fentinyl tariff of 20% on all Chines goods 5emin in place an issue will be undr review and a new agreement is to be signed about that one in a way is a eparte from the main trade deal to be dealt wth separtely.

In the emantime Bessen announced that there isa long list of agreements that will be finalized by the end of teh eyar - there are apparetly more han 90 such deals being under negotiation at present, Some will be much more complicated than others, The nly country here trade deals have not started is Germany - that isist the deals must be an dled by the EU and not individual countries, Unless germany start negotiations dorectlly with the USA - there will be no trade deal and the only sufferer as a result would be Germany.

The rest f the EU countries are ining up to protect their own trading with the USA. The ideal of the site idiots that Trump is a failed dicator is slowly being eliminated as standard BS on their part,

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Wow! Sounds like Trump is just the best . . . you could almost say he's the Andre Esterhuizen of politics!

Not that good, just not the ‘Bozo’ some on here thought,

Whooooooosh!!!

I assumed you were baiting Mike, is there anything else?