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Vice President candidate announced

Started by Mozart14 REPLIES1,441 VIEWS· 16 Jul 2024, 14:21
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jul 2024, 14:21
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16 Jul 2024, 14:21#1

Sen. John McCain announced Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential candidate Friday, calling her "the running mate who can best help me shake up Washington."

"She's exactly who this country needs to help me fight the same old Washington politics of me first and country second," the presumptive Republican nominee said at a Dayton, Ohio, rally of about 15,000 supporters, who welcomed the surprise pick of the relatively unknown politician with cheers and flags.

"She's got the grit, integrity, good sense and fierce devotion to the common good that is exactly what we need in Washington today," McCain said.

Palin, 44, described herself as a fighter against corruption and a bipartisan reformer in her first appearance as a candidate for vice president, an office she said she never expected to seek. 

"I was just your average hockey mom in Alaska" before getting involved in politics, she said. "When I found corruption there, I fought it hard and brought the offenders to account."  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jul 2024, 14:38
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16 Jul 2024, 14:38#2

So what has this to do with the present situation?  

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Jul 2024, 20:45
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16 Jul 2024, 20:45#3

JD is the insurance policy against assassination...

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
16 Jul 2024, 21:09
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16 Jul 2024, 21:09#4


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Jul 2024, 02:04
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17 Jul 2024, 02:04#5

Maybe its a just a case of DWP .................. 'drinking while posting'.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jul 2024, 09:30
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17 Jul 2024, 09:30#6

Sure- Mozart wrote the above without any idea about why Vance was appoined by Trump - who and what he represents and what he can bring to te presidency.   

Amongst others there is a cray loon who supported Biden all out in voting  for whateve Biden proposed and also fo all the poor candidates ultra-left candidates Biden  nominated caausing havoc in he USA adinistration  and Vance - vry popular in Ohio would help to gt the Republican Senaor win in the Senate election in Ohio and helping Trump win in he rust belt States as well.

 Vance is a good and honest person from  a working class famly that got into Yale Universities and came out a a top  student and from her devloped in own business.   He married an Indian class mate  of his and they have two children - not a racist of which the Democrats would not be called racist. 

Vance is also popular with the workers and  Trump invited the President of the Teamsters for the first time ever to address a Republican Convention and one part of it was the links Vance played  a role in since he has major support from boh the Union and of the workers themelves in the rust belt states and in New York, Connecticutt and New Jersey, three states the polls now indicate as battleground states, 

Vance would handle the issue of helping both the Union and the workers - something he wass excellent in iro his own busines operations.

I can see some very nteresting appointments coming up,    Haley may not eb one of those  since she worked for Boeing and the salaries  of heads of Deparments are not comparable.   However, she may be offered the US Ambassadorshp again - she was appointed by Trump in that positon - but was too hawkish and in alliance with Bolton and that did not tie in with his efforts to  find peaceful solutions through negotiation.

He may appoint Senator Hawley as Attorney General to clean out the Justice Department.  He will stop abuses the Biden Administration, the FBI in particular and also the DA's controlled by Soros come up with.   He will make sure the FBI is claned up from people like Wray who kept the FBI to investigate Biden and his sons corrupt activities on the ice and was always on the go to undermine Trump in the past and was part of the censorship scheme involving the media and internet platfoms of news derimenal to Biden and he Democrats,    .      


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Jul 2024, 10:00
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17 Jul 2024, 10:00#7

Vance doesn't give a fck about Ukraine, so, 'sy gat se moer', may all his fowls die.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jul 2024, 11:42
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17 Jul 2024, 11:42#8

Where do you get that BS from?    I think the Republicans care more about Ukraine and its people  than Biden and his warmongering idiots do.    Matter of fact one of the RP members in the House was borne in Ukraine.   She support the peace initiative fully.   Peacxe would benefotthe people fo Ukraine - war never will.

One speech last night cleared up that issue conclusively - if Trump was President Putin would not have dared to attack any country.   It is clear that Putin supported the Biden elction knowng he was a corrupt weakling without princples - which Putin would use to his own advantage.

So I suppose you shoudl change the follwong iro Biden -   "sy gat se moer', may all his corrupt moneymaking plans die" .                

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Jul 2024, 14:50
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17 Jul 2024, 14:50#9

‘But the connection between Palin and Trump goes much deeper than just an endorsement.

Consider how Palin positioned herself as governor of Alaska and as John McCain’s running mate in 2008. She expressly ran against the Republican establishment. She lambasted the press and positioned the mainstream media as out to get her. She regularly veered away from political norms – “going rogue” she called it – and touted her willingness to do so as evidence that no one owned her.

Sound familiar?

The seeds of Trumpism were planted and maintained by Palin. She was, in many ways, Trump before Trump.’


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jul 2024, 16:21
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17 Jul 2024, 16:21#10

Mc  Cain was th wworst RP candidateover the last 100 years and his  deperaion toseem to be in opposition to his DP friends and partners.   He even support the canddiate of the DP in he Senate election race in  2006.   He ahd no creditability with most Republicans wh managed to get tw candidates in 2008 and 2012 that was totally hopeless and would not win anything they were involved in.

It may sound familiar to what you want to be familiar.   There is zero familiar bet3ween the two,  Before vance started his on business Vance was in the employ of CNN.   He got married to a Indian lady and development an excellent relationship with Unions and workers,   So he was until 2023 a very reputable business manaager.   So he cannot be a rightwing fanatic like Palin.

You apparently believe the career politicians  and their despising or worse still hateed of the working class people in the USA.    I tried to expain to you that your hero-worshipping of the interests of the wealthy makes you lookng exactly like the present leftwing Democrats.

At least the laughing hyena made her advance in her political carreer by sleeping with ex-governor Brown of California. - so she is famous of being VP for near to 4 years  and doing bugger-all.   Trump always look for business-orientated people to run the Public Servants since the Beaurucrats became known for surving themselces and NOT the public they are supposed to serve.

What th hll ae you talking about Trumpism anywa?   Descrbe it for os please

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Jul 2024, 17:13
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17 Jul 2024, 17:13#11

It’s a quote….try to keep up.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jul 2024, 18:00
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17 Jul 2024, 18:00#12

Idiotic again - you quote it from the New Tork Times or from the Wall Street Journal?   

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jul 2024, 18:00
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17 Jul 2024, 18:00#13

Idiotic again - you quote it from the New Tork Times or from the Wall Street Journal?   

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Jul 2024, 23:45
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17 Jul 2024, 23:45#14
The only crucial job of the VP is to succeed if the President is incapacitated. This 39 year old man’s credentials are very similar to de Santis…..6 years ago. de Santis has much more experience and  shown himself to be an able governor. 
He is far more qualified for the VP role, but just because you heard it on Fox, you and the painfully gullible HasBeen are deliriously happy.  In the meantime you have trashed de Santis whose resume reads just like this kid, with many more accomplishments. . You can’t make this stuff up.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Jul 2024, 05:54
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18 Jul 2024, 05:54#15

Mozrt

I am afraid I have to differ from you as per normal.   Trump was a registerd Democrat unil 2007 and never supported the Republicans - but he also saw that Bush and his warmongerer and started  endles wars.    He was only decided to enter politics in 2014..

But you obviously boycotted the speech of Vance tonight.   He did speak about  hs roots in the four States that  ued to be wealthy and became the rust belt states over the last 40 years.   He is part of a generation that grew up stuggling to make a living,   He spoke about family life and what it means to him and to the working class people in the USA,

That speech tonight will make sure that the majority of people in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota encounter on a daily basis and is likely will turn those states into supporting Trump in November 2024.

I think Trump was not interested in turning the RP internal arguments (inclusive of Palin's Tea Party group)  and an elitist polticians that made no difference to the working class.   When after the 2016 elections people in the Rust Belt states were sked  why they voted for Trump and the answer was that over the last 30 years they voted for either the Republican or Democratic Parties and all they got in that  period was to get poorer and  they voted for Trump in he hope that things would improve for them.

The fact was it did and for the first tiime in three decades people had money in their pockets and could attain a better life that they last enjoyed under Preident Reagan.   It must have worked because when asked in an opion pole Blacks in New York stated in ecent opinion polls they answered they were better off and felt safer when Trump was President than they feel at present.

In essense Palin had no idea about the idea to get the working and middle class in supporting the RP - but was merely an ideological argument and nothing else.  Trump saw an opportunity to get the support of the working and middle class voters to suppot the RP.   Trump's approach was successful in 2016 it got accepted by the majority of the RP membership.   It was not accepted  by the erstwhile political elite that was closer to their friends in the DP - like campaignimg by Ncain did when suppoting a Demcoratic Party Senate cndidate in Wisconsin.

The DP used to be supported by the working class voters and that ended in 2016.   For a variety of reasons the votes in key states believed Biden was one of hem and not a controversial a Trump.   Biden also promised them that he would stop the political divisions  in the USA.   Biden did everyhing to the opposite and his introduiction of far-leftist idealists in his cabinet and his policies antagonised  the people more and more,   

The cornerstone of the Democrats also were based on a coalition type of movement and he Hispanics and Blacks are in the main religious people and the anti-religion policies of the Biden Aministration drove more and more people from the Party.                            

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