What is going on polittically in the UK?

SB

I want an opinion from you on a question relating to the issues I mentioned below,

Over he last week I saw some news reports about 110 000 protestirs supporting Save England Agenda, Today I saw a news report that a MP defected to the Reform Party, And then there are the opinion polls indicating that the Reform Party is growing and the Comservative Party is losing support.

So my question is - Has the Conservative Party any chance of survival?

A further Question (rather funny) is - Is Starmer now implementing the Trump policy on dealing with illegal migrants? .

The Conservative Party is doomed. They have run the UK for most of the last 250 years. When Boris got in, things fell apart badly. The COVID fraud was probably the worst disaster for them, with the likes of Matt Hancock.

The rat politicians are jumping ship from the Tories to Reform UK.

Starmer needs to act if Labour want to have a chance in the next election. It is the Democratic consensus to fix irregular immigration and send back those who are not here legally.

If Starmer and the EU fix the immigration problem, it might end Reform UK.

The economy is bad, but it's probably the 2nd most important issue, next to third-world immigration.

If Reform UK lose the immigration issue, then they will have to focus on the economy.

Monetary experts have reviewed their economic plans for Reform UK, and they are crap.

It is more like hard-line Tories with tax cuts for billionaires, and cutting civil services like the NHS.

As for the Tory campaign donors, they have started to shift over to Reform - hence why you see more Tory lobbyists pretending to be politicians moving over to Reform UK in the meantime.

Starmer has had a bumpy road with various firings/resignations, etc, in a very short space of time.

He is not very popular, but things might improve if the economy and illegal immigration improve.

If not, he might have to step aside for another Labour politician. There are already rumours of a coup happening behind the scenes, but this might be early days stuff.

The UK economy got hit hard by the global banking crisis in 2008. Then Brexit. Wage growth has not improved since the Tories got into power, over 14 years ago.

Labour is taking loans and increasing taxes- but it is not clear when the light at the end of the tunnel will show.

If Starmer and the EU fix the immigration problem, it might end Reform UK.

Not sure why it's up to the EU to fix the UK's immigration problem.

The boats are from France. Their is also other irregular immigration from the mainland of Europe.

So if Starmer looks at student visa's, holiday visas, family visit etc - along with EU fixing the boats that should reduce the numbers

"The economy is bad, but it's probably the 2nd most important issue, next to third-world immigration."

Illegal immigrants are probably contributing significantly to the economy being poor...gobbling up resources, increasing crime, etc.

In my own opinion from what I have seen the Fench Govenment went the route of the Democrats in the USA when it came to the economic situation - there is no money available from taxation so lets borrow the money and continue spending.money anyway, In the end the Government owes debs amounting to 150% of he countrey's GDP Technically the country will soon reach the stage when all budgetary expenditure would reach 200% of the country's GDP - cutting expenditure and raising taxes by 100% and still will not be able to cover the country's budgetary costs. The same applied to the UK.and Germany. Covering current expenditure by loans remains a short term solution with major negative impact in the longer term.

The fact is what killed the USA and became a real problem in the USA was a failed priority situation - leading to Government failures, The Government spent more on subsistence of illegal migrants than they do iro US citizens. The poor in he USA lives in tents on sidewalks - the migrants lived in rent free accommodation free of charge at the cost of the taxpayers.

The solution the Democrats lost on is a failed economic situation coupled to a loss of control iro of crime as a result of increased crime and the solution was to increase he number of Federal Government emplayees went up from 1 946 000 in 2021 to 3 250 000 in 2024. So the solution to both was to publish fake stats on employment creation and crime, The result was that debt of Gornment increase while soft on crime policies caused millions of people to flee from California and oher high crime state and cities to safety in States where the Republicans control the States and cities had hard policies on crime - with a major loss in support by the Blacks and Hispanics The fake statsitical details showed the cost of soft-on-crime policies caused havoc in the USA cities in particular,

The fact is that the Democratic Party is split badly - the ultra-left policies of the USA is supported by the majoriy of the polititians in Washington - ie of the 2013 DP House members 145 are in that Ultra-left caucus group, Will it work out - I do ot know,

Seems tp me that politically there is a drift to a sharp divide politically developing in all democratic countries with the major move beinmg to center-right parties on the one side and ultra-left Parties on the other side, It also entail a political divide between extreme Socialism and centrist capitalism.with very little in commin between the leading party divides. . ,

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In my own opinion from what I have seen the Fench Govenment went the route of the Democrats in the USA when it came to the economic situation - there is no money available from taxation so lets borrow the money and continue spending.money anyway, In the end the Government owes debs amounting to 150% of he countrey's GDP Technically the country will soon reach the stage when all budgetary expenditure would reach 200% of the country's GDP - cutting expenditure and raising taxes by 100% and still will not be able to cover the country's budgetary costs. The same applied to the UK.and Germany. Covering current expenditure by loans remains a short term solution with major negative impact in the longer term.

The fact is what killed the USA and became a real problem in the USA was a failed priority situation - leading to Government failures, The Government spent more on subsistence of illegal migrants than they do iro US citizens. The poor in he USA lives in tents on sidewalks - the migrants lived in rent free accommodation free of charge at the cost of the taxpayers.

The solution the Democrats lost on is a failed economic situation coupled to a loss of control iro of crime as a result of increased crime and the solution was to increase he number of Federal Government emplayees went up from 1 946 000 in 2021 to 3 250 000 in 2024. So the solution to both was to publish fake stats on employment creation and crime, The result was that debt of Gornment increase while soft on crime policies caused millions of people to flee from California and oher high crime state and cities to safety in States where the Republicans control the States and cities had hard policies on crime - with a major loss in support by the Blacks and Hispanics The fake statsitical details showed the cost of soft-on-crime policies caused havoc in the USA cities in particular,

The fact is that the Democratic Party is split badly - the ultra-left policies of the USA is supported by the majoriy of the polititians in Washington - ie of the 2013 DP House members 145 are in that Ultra-left caucus group, Will it wok out - I do not know,

Seems to me that politically there is a drift to a sharp divide politically developing in all democratic countries with the major move being to center-right parties on the one side and ultra-left Parties on the other side, It also entail a political divide between extreme Socialism and centrist capitalism.with very little in common between the leading party divides. . ,

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Silent no more...

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All I needed to see was the list of prior offerings including Capitalism is Dying to know this bloke is lost.

All I needed to see was the list of prior offerings including Capitalism is Dying to know this bloke is lost.

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Draad

A Police Officer from Scotland Yard sid the crowd at the London protests is estmated at 110 000 people. Looking at the video thee crowd likely exceeded 300 000 people.- if not mopre.

Mozart

The Democrats in the USA claimed that D enmark, Norway and Sweden are socialists countries leading to bouts of alughter by the contries concerned, A large percentage of the budgets of those three companies are spent on Social services to the people, But in all other aspects the countries are capitalist countries,

The real fact is there is not a single country in the world where socialist policies did not end up being flushed by the toilet, Socialist policies as the leftists claimed being successful is a farce. In fact the socialist dictatorships always lead ti inverihment of the people.

Idiot alwayss point out the success of China being a Socialist coubntry, It once was but since the departure o the late and unlamneted Mao - the countrys tarted moving to a capitalist system that can be desscribed best by the eexample of the Hitler regimein Germany uncer Fascism - which s supposedly similar to basic socialist policies, The fct is the Chinese model today is similar to the German model of the 1930's..

In desperation the arstocrats and capitalist form an alliance with the Socialist Nazi Party, The diference between the Nazi's in German was zero in fact, The leadership o the two groups hated each other,but thir policie were the same,

Now lets look at China. Under Mao leadership the country was ain a continous grip of poverty - his successors radually moved away from his socialist policies - emaining still a socalist dcatorship. With the collapse of Communism in Russia and Central and eastern countries in Europe the Chinese stared witha ne policy and that cwas an alliance between Western and Chinese capitalists and he Communist Regime.- similar to what happened in Gerany in the 1930/s. To call China a socialist country is in fact a joke - it s basically a Fascist dicatorship baseed on capitalism.

So where in the world was socialism a success and the simple answer is socialism is a disaster failing the people of countries where the dictatorial Government exist and led the country and stagdard of living keptgoing down. Simply .put socialism fails because th operation of anything by public servansts wothou any idea of business management is a disaster and will always fail.

DumbMike, you fool.

If a country has a capitalist economy (with private ownership), it is considered capitalist.

It’s hard to say that any country is 100% capitalist, because all countries have at least some mix of socialism.

A basic way of looking at it is: the more taxes a country has, the more socialist it is; the fewer taxes it has, the more capitalist it is.

Imagine you and your friends each have some candy.

In a socialist game, everyone puts a lot of their candy in a big jar, and then the teacher shares it back out so nobody has too little. That’s like paying lots of taxes so the government can provide things like schools, hospitals, or toys for everyone.

In a capitalist game, you keep most of your candy for yourself. You get to decide what to do with it—maybe trade it, maybe eat it. That’s like paying very little tax and letting people use their own money how they want.

So when a country asks for more taxes, it’s leaning toward sharing (socialism). When a country asks for fewer taxes, it’s leaning toward keeping capitalism. A left-wing party is usually “more socialist, and a right-wing party more capitalist.

However, a decent number of politicians are bribed, so things do not always work out as planned.

For example, if less tax should be collected, why not drop VAT? (e.g. 20% of the net sales price), so everyone gets the benefit of the policy. Or why not remove stuff like capital gains tax that favours the richest 10% to ensure that all wealth is taxed at the same rate?

Politically, it is happening when usually happens when an empire sees its imperial space shrinking. Things that were exported for convenience get re imported. It is going to be funny.