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What makes a country fascist ......Russians answer your random questions

Started by bobbok...26 REPLIES354 VIEWS· 22 Jun 2023, 23:07
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Jun 2023, 23:07
#1
22 Jun 2023, 23:07#1

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
23 Jun 2023, 06:03
#2
23 Jun 2023, 06:03#2

In liberal countries, the answer would be self depicting as a fascist. Apart from that, certainly not leading fascist policies.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
23 Jun 2023, 07:39
#3
23 Jun 2023, 07:39#3
Does anyone else think that TheTraditionalist is just a bot posting some sort of A.I generated script at this point?
What's the bet the response will be something like the following.
In liberal countries. A.I scripting is used to propagate a narrative to ensure control of the mass...
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2023, 07:55
#4
23 Jun 2023, 07:55#4

You obviously have no idea about what Fascism is  and how it functions.   

What was the case of Fascism in the 20th century?   Like Communism Facsism  is an off-shoot of Socialism.  Both systems allows for extremism  - but there is a difference as well.   Fascism developed a new tendency in the 20th century - that is an alliance  between  the socialist political leaders and the major capitalists and royalists - that was the case in both Germany and Italy.   

Communism in some way developed a similar tendency - but it was never as  pronounced as was the case in Italy and Germany..   The big finance thought at the time that they could get control of the resources of Russia by destroying the monarchy - they not really want a liberal system that would lead to a less compliant Government so they funded the Communist takeover of the Government in October 1917.

So what happened since then.   What they could not control until the last decade of the 20th century was extreme Communist oppression  they help put in power and at the Yalta    conference in 1943 the USA and UK leaders allowed Russia to get total control of central and eastern Europe and extend their tyranny to take over  governance  of a string of Goernments in countries like Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria and incorporate the Baltic States in the USSR.

China after WW2 was in chaos after the defeat of Japan and it gave the Communists the opportunity to take over China when the nationalist government fled to Taiwan.   So what happened in the USSR and China in the period 1917 until the death of Mao Zedung and the collapse of the Communist dictatorship in Eastern Europe was the state-sponsored murder of 52 million people in Russia and 75 million in China.  

Basically the Chinese are business-orientated people and the Chinese Government after the death of Mao tuned to western capitalists to help them with developing of industrial and economic development of China.    China developed a situation that the world became dependent on them for instance  medicines  and other basic needs of all world countries.   The affinity of the US capitalists like Gates, Zuckerman and the Walmart empire in the USA  turned  China from a Communist dictatorship into a Fascist dictatorship.

Russia took a completely different trail - decades of extreme cruel  Governments led to a hatred of  Socialist dictatorship led to emergence to a nationalist approach to issues and there was a drastic return to an anti-socialist government system.   Russia adopted a democratic constitution, but in view of the size of the country there are implementing problems.     Regional political parties could not develop into national parties and that weakened the democratic governance - Russia comprise of 16%  of the total land area of the world.   In that sense the country is not a threat to democracy and it is not a socialist country anymore.   So they became the hate country in the case of the Super-rich and the Governments in Europe and the USA.  

That makes it questionable whether the NATO and EU countries are heading.   The best way to look at that is typified in the USA.    Under Obama the major billionaires got control of the media and used that control they indevoured  to control the country by an alliance with the Democratic Party.   There program was interrupted  by the election of Trump and they orchestrated a lie campaign to get rid of him.   

Being successful  the major capitalists organized by acting in total co-ordination on issues to get what they want.   The same people are in close liaison with the present Fascist Government in China.    They go so far as writing dictates on policy issues  in the USA like Gates did in respect of the Global Warming Policy and Soros did in respect of the law and order policy in the USA and they enforced and controlled the policies of the  US Government  in the case of  the open border and health policies  prescribed by the WEF and WHO.   

The USA is moving to become a Fascist country with democracy being undermined.   Total control of the leftist media and judicial processes undermines the US Constitution   the end result being that the country is moving into a  Fascist controlled system.    Russia is no real threat to DEMOCRACY - the present USA Government is.   When Democracy goes in the USA the rest of the EU and NATO countries will become Fascist as well.   

                   

                      

                

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
23 Jun 2023, 08:00
#5
23 Jun 2023, 08:00#5

Deshumanization, so liberal.

A key element of their ideology. for liberals, at least two kinds of human beings.

Human beings who are human beings and human beings they do not consider as human beings.

They have not changed their ways since day zero.

Every human being is entitled to the unalienable right of not be held in slavery.

It just happened the slaves liberals owned were not human beings. Case closed.

Deshumanization, a liberal trademark.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Jun 2023, 09:41
#6
23 Jun 2023, 09:41#6

Exactly ..........you're either Arthur or Martha

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2023, 09:49
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23 Jun 2023, 09:49#7

BB

For heavens sake - go and study what Fascism really entails and stop putting propaganda BS on site.    All you know about the world is what the  ultra-rich and their media allows you to know.   You are a typical example of what Stalin called collaborators helping the dictatorship - you are a "useful idiot".


      

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Jun 2023, 10:46
#8
23 Jun 2023, 10:46#8
"Deshumanization, so liberal." Note the "z".
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2023, 12:41
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23 Jun 2023, 12:41#9

Note please - according to the heroes of Stav, SB and BB in Kiev  the Russian that have lived in what they regard as Ukraine are not human beings - they are to be getting rid off  through ethnic cleansing.   Even Mozart buys into their ideal solution for Ukaine.    

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
23 Jun 2023, 13:17
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23 Jun 2023, 13:17#10
Still haven't provided any links to where Biden claimed before Russia invaded that the aim of the war was to get rid of Putin or where Biden boasted of blowing up Nordstream.
Any day now right?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2023, 14:07
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23 Jun 2023, 14:07#11

I saw it  and you prefer not to believe it because you are the most radical guy on site.   In any event I posted a statement by Zelenskyy  indicated the Ukraine dictatorship intends to use ethnic cleansng if they get the upper hand in the present war.  Do you support that BS  too.

 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Jun 2023, 14:08
#12
23 Jun 2023, 14:08#12

"Exactly ..........you're either Arthur or Martha"

Nope, he's a whole different piece of work......Martha?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Jun 2023, 14:13
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23 Jun 2023, 14:13#13

Trad hates:

  1. Saffa Rugby
  2. White People
  3. White Afrikaans Saffas in particular.
  4. Christianity 
  5. Commie illogic.
  6. Ramble on forever, yet says little of substance.
  7. Sides with Russia
  8. Hates Western Collonialism and the USA.
Trad might be Julius Malema...

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
23 Jun 2023, 15:17
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23 Jun 2023, 15:17#14

I saw it  and you prefer not to believe it because you are the most radical guy on site.   In any event I posted a statement by Zelenskyy  indicated the Ukraine dictatorship intends to use ethnic cleansng if they get the upper hand in the present war

You're such a bare faced liar. If you had seen what you would have said you have seen you should have no difficulty linking too it, it would take just a few seconds to do. But of course you can't because it doesn't exist, you just can't admit its a ludicrous claim that you made up.

But now you have gone and made another batshit insane claim that Zelenksyy  said Ukraine intends to use ethnic cleansing to get the upper hand in the war.  Go on link to where he said that. 

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
23 Jun 2023, 15:30
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23 Jun 2023, 15:30#15

Trad hates:

Hate, that human feeling liberals would like to forbid, especially when the hate has causes.

One may notice that the list leaves a lot of people to love. A sort of opposite position to liberals who have proven they hate the rest of humanity.

As to siding with Russia or Putin, already  stated many times, all scum bags in the world have one blessing: liberals.

Liberals can redeem the worst scumbag. The liberal talent.

As to hating Christianity, how it comes that Christians are unshaken when they bear false testimony against people.

WMDs in Iraq, false testimony, systemic rape carried out by the Libyan army, false testimony.

And so on.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2023, 16:59
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23 Jun 2023, 16:59#16

Delete 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2023, 16:59
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23 Jun 2023, 16:59#17

I made a mistake and said Zelenskyy' - it in fact was his Chief Advisor who made a statement made a statement on ethnic cleansing.   His  Chief Advisor  said he favors ethnic cleansing to get rid of Russian Culture and in fact clearly said he was in favor of ethnic cleansing - it was in Wikipedia.  If Zelenskyy differed from that statement he should fire the Nazi bastard or at least countermand what he said.     Whenever you make a claim about anything you try and twist it.   You are asked do you agree what was said or do you agree that Russian are not people and should be eliminated.   You should know by now that there is zero Democracy in Ukraine anyway.      

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
23 Jun 2023, 17:26
#18
23 Jun 2023, 17:26#18

In any event I posted a statement by Zelenskyy  indicated the Ukraine dictatorship intends to use ethnic cleansng if they get the upper hand in the present war. 

And 6 posts later you post this.

I never said Zelenskyy said he favors ethnic cleansing to get rid of Russian Culture and in fact clearly said he was in favor of ethnic cleansing - it was his chief advisor who said it and was  quoted in Wikipedia. 

Not only do you contradict an earlier post, almost unbelievable you somehow manage to contradict yourself in the same sentence. Your incoherence is staggering.

Whenever you make a claim about anything you try and twist it.

When did I do that?

 You are asked do you agree what was said or do you agree that Russian are not people and should be eliminated.

Link me to what was said so I can make up my own mind.

You should know by now that there is zero Democracy in Ukraine anyway. 

Poor Mike, utterly brainwashed.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2023, 17:36
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23 Jun 2023, 17:36#19

I posted it twice on site and you ignored it twice on site and you ignored it twice - Go to where Mozart posted a thread on ethnic cleansing.   He fled from that posting being  embarrassed about the Nazi's in Ukraine and their conduct so obvio0usly you support them in their ethnic cleansing believes.    Ramaphosa and Meyer played a key role leading to the North Ireland   Agreement - but you apparently agree with them that Africans are not people either.    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2023, 18:39
#20
23 Jun 2023, 18:39#20

Clever the fact that I stopped reading your long boring diatribe, doesn’t mean I agree or can’t continue the tedious argument. Sometimes it’s just not worth the effort. But let me repeat….your memories, opinions and biases are not proof. Provide references from credible sources.

The fact that you believe Russia is a democracy and the US is a fascist state means any opinion of your’s is totally suspect.

Comprende?

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
23 Jun 2023, 18:51
#21
23 Jun 2023, 18:51#21

Mike link to the quote of Zelensky's Chief Advisor please?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2023, 20:51
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23 Jun 2023, 20:51#22

Mozart

When the FBI and Justice Department are politicized and used by the Government to spy on people and oppress  them like constantly happen in the USA , the country has destroyed human rights in the USA and is in breach of the US Constitution.   If Gates and Soros wrote out GGOVENMENT POLIICIS THEN THE COUNTRY HAS LOST ITS FREEDOMS  AND CONSTOTUTIONAL GOVERNMENT.   What is happening  in the US A is in line what can be expected from a dictatorship.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2023, 21:47
#23
23 Jun 2023, 21:47#23

A dictatorship….man you are a looney tune!

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Jun 2023, 21:51
#24
23 Jun 2023, 21:51#24

ouMaaik relax, its grotesque but probably not criminal being a supporter of Putin's autocratic governance.


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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
24 Jun 2023, 10:56
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24 Jun 2023, 10:56#25

When the FBI and Justice Department are politicized and used by the Government to spy on people and oppress  them like constantly happen in the USA , the country has destroyed human rights in the USA and is in breach of the US Constitution.

The FBI and co have always been politicized.

The US have always disrespected human rights, the country has been built on the disrespect of human rights, this is how the US have got richer and richer.

The US respecting human rights have never existed.

Fabled past.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
24 Jun 2023, 11:02
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24 Jun 2023, 11:02#26

The fact that you believe Russia is a democracy and the US is a fascist state means any opinion of your’s is totally suspect.

Neither are democracies. Liberals did not want democracy.

As to the rest, what is what.

No matter what, countries have records.

Once Russia is liberated, Russians will become slowly and surely white people.

The atrocities committed in the behalf on white people will be theirs.

And on this, they may regret the time when they were Russians.

Russia still lagging way behind the US in terms of genocides, ethnocides, mass slaughters, slavery, landgrabbing and more.

Who cares the US are fascist or not. The record exists and is what it is, no matter what the US are.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2023, 14:32
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24 Jun 2023, 14:32#27

Mozart

So you believe that it is Democratic for Gates and Soros to write out Government policies to be implemented - who elected the two to do that?    Is it Democratic to use he Justice Department and FBI to spy and intimidate people - organize and allow demonstrators to intimidate judges - to not prosecute real sabotage of pro-life facilities,  but illegally instructed  the FBI to treat parents protesting against porn and woke teachings in Government schools (ie apply the Stalin school policy)  in US schools.    

What ahs gone wrong with you to come up with justification of the above?        

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