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When I mentioned the DR Oz experiment on Chloroquine......

Started by Mozart20 REPLIES456 VIEWS· 08 Apr 2020, 17:18
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2020, 17:18
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08 Apr 2020, 17:18#1

Bricey referred me to a ‘hot off the press report’ that actually was on Bloomberg 3 weeks ago....a ‘study’ of a limited number of patients......all of whom survived! And some of his comrades applauded.


So let me explain the Dr Oz experiment again. The good doctor thought it would be interesting to see if taking hcq regularly for Lupus protected those patients from the Wuhan virus.


He accessed the national insurance records and randomly extracted the data for 1 million patients. Then he was able to establish how many of those patients were regularly taking hcq. That number turned out to be 14000.


So now we have 14000 patients who are comfortably tolerating the drug as a test sample. Next he established how many of those 14000  patients had the virus. Given the US has north of 1.2 cases per thousand population....we would expect 17 cases in a sample of 14000.


There were none....zero!  


This is a promising result for those who really care about saving lives, which apparently excludes the entire left. But Dr Oz plans to extend the experiment to 100 million Insurance records. That should be pretty definitive on the protection front even if it doesn’t answer questions on reversing the disease, other than it’s currently being tolerated by large numbers of people.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Apr 2020, 22:28
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08 Apr 2020, 22:28#2

Moz you are up against it here. My good friend Brycy and his ilk struggle to differentiate between 140, 1400 and 14,000.

Its all way past their pay grade!!!

Dr Fauci is their God and no matter how much this fraud talks tripe and that he sits on the Gates Foundation set to make a fortune if they can mandate vaccinations etc. Boy did Dr Shiva rip Gates!

That video by Dr Shiva was very very impressive! 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Apr 2020, 19:20
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09 Apr 2020, 19:20#3

Here’s the actual transcript. This is either real or a cruel, very low probability anomaly. But given 14000 Lupus patients on hcq registered zero covid.....why would any ‘scientist’ not want to explore further:




“We’ve now run 9 million insurance records through, identified 14,000 people who are like these patients. They have lupus. They’re taking hydroxychloroquine. Zero of those patients so far have COVID-19. I don't want to over interpret that. This is a tiny little biopsy of America, but working together with CMS, and we've gotten a lot of support from their leadership. Seema Verma’s fantastic. “The Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, they’ve gotten together,” he said.

“Our partners at Share Care are writing the numbers, and I want to get to 100 million Americans and confirm what the rheumatologists are observing, which is it doesn't seem right, but their patients aren't getting COVID-19, and maybe there's something there that’s a clue to us, because if that's true, we might consider using this at the trials with doctors and nurses and people who are at risk of getting this infection,” Oz said.

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
09 Apr 2020, 20:22
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Apr 2020, 20:53
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09 Apr 2020, 20:53#6

As Tucker asked why are they so desperate to discredit HCQ.

You have to be a monumental  ignoramus not to know the answer.

But new poll shows 2 out of 3 US doctors are in favour of HCQ. That will of course increase while poor brycy wonders why - if only poor brycy would read my posts that are put on the board to educate buffoons like him!

Lock up ou brycy not because of the Wuhan virus but because he should be in an asylum! Hahahhahahahahaha

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
09 Apr 2020, 21:21
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09 Apr 2020, 21:21#7


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Apr 2020, 21:36
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09 Apr 2020, 21:36#8
Hahahahahhaha if it helps your pain!!
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
09 Apr 2020, 21:41
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09 Apr 2020, 21:41#9


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Apr 2020, 23:52
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09 Apr 2020, 23:52#10
How dare Dr Oz make claims without first consulting with Dr Brycy and get his approval?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Apr 2020, 00:18
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10 Apr 2020, 00:18#11

So Bricy what do you think is true:

1 Oz is lying about the data from the 9 million insurance records....or

2 It’s not very significant that none of 14000 Lupus patients taking hcq have presented with the disease.


And puleeze, just answer the question, no more of the juvenile pictures.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Apr 2020, 02:50
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10 Apr 2020, 02:50#12

Mozart

When the media try and politicize the issue and in the end would like to see hundreds of thousands of death for political gain it is crazy.  I think that this is another case why the leftists are totally off the rails and morally bankrupt.       


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2020, 09:06
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10 Apr 2020, 09:06#13

"You can't fix stupid...it's forever"

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Apr 2020, 10:51
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10 Apr 2020, 10:51#14

Well at least my good friend Brycy has a sense of humor warped as it may be. 

Man do we have some Dumbclucks on this board -  Sharkvirus, Redrooi, Dense Denise and poor Brycy. Hahahahahaha. they are hilarious! 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Apr 2020, 16:23
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10 Apr 2020, 16:23#15

And then there is this:

Coronavirus Task Force Drills Down on Actual County, Metro Data as Models Lose Credibility

The medical professionals on the White House Coronavirus Task Force appear to have lessened their reliance on academic models in favor of actual coronavirus data provided by state governments.

This move comes as the academic models that have brought about restrictive social distancing policies at the state and federal level continue to revise death projections downwards and vastly overstate hospitalization projections.

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) model that until recently was projecting 93,765 deaths has downgraded death projections to 60,415 as actual data has come in from several states. Meanwhile, the model’s hospitalizations projections continue to miss the mark by a wide margin and have yet to be corrected.

Check the rest of the article. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2020, 16:40
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10 Apr 2020, 16:40#16

But, but ZOMBIES!!!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Apr 2020, 23:04
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10 Apr 2020, 23:04#17

Draad poor sharkvirus is not far from being brain dead. Cause of brain death TDS. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
11 Apr 2020, 11:41
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11 Apr 2020, 11:41#18
Looks like these models turned out to be about as accurate as election polls.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Apr 2020, 16:19
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11 Apr 2020, 16:19#19

Like the Climate change models the primary objective is to deceive the low information  person to achieve definite ends. 

Gullible oaks like sharkvirus, Dense Denise and poor Brycy will always be deceived. They are cannon fodder, dupes that just suck it all up. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Apr 2020, 22:36
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12 Apr 2020, 22:36#20

Findings from the Mediterranean  Institute:

From March 3rd to April 9th, 2020, 59,655 specimens from 38,617 patients were tested for COVID-19 by PCR. Of the 3,165 positive patients placed in the care of our institute, 1061 previously unpublished patients met our inclusion criteria. Their mean age was 43.6 years old and 492 were male (46.4%). No cardiac toxicity was observed. A good clinical outcome and virological cure was obtained in 973 patients within 10 days (91.7%). Prolonged viral carriage at completion of treatment was observed in 47 patients (4.4%) and was associated to a higher viral load at diagnosis (p < 10-2) but viral culture was negative at day 10 and all but one were PCR-cleared at day 15. A poor outcome was observed for 46 patients (4.3%); 10 were transferred to intensive care units, 5 patients died (0.47%) (74-95 years old) and 31 required 10 days of hospitalization or more. Among this group, 25 patients are now cured and 16 are still hospitalized (98% of patients cured so far). Poor clinical outcome was significantly associated to older age (OR 1.11), initial higher severity (OR 10.05) and low hydroxychloroquine serum concentration. In addition, both poor clinical and virological outcomes were associated to the use of selective beta-blocking agents and angiotensin II receptor blockers (P<0.05). Mortality was significantly lower in patients who had received > 3 days of HCQ-AZ than in patients treated with other regimens both at IHU and in all Marseille public hospitals (p< 10-2).

>>  COVID-19: Existing Effective Treatment Today, or Maybe a Vaccine in 18 Months or More?

Interpretation

The HCQ-AZ combination, when started immediately after diagnosis, is a safe and efficient treatment for COVID-19, with a mortality rate of 0.5%, in elderly patients. It avoids worsening and clears virus persistence and contagiosity in most cases.


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sharkbokCaptain23,210 posts
12 Apr 2020, 22:43
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12 Apr 2020, 22:43#21
Beeno1

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Apr 10, 2020, 23:04

Draad poor sharkvirus is not far from being brain dead. Cause of brain death TDS. 

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